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got to love this line in the mirror
"Burnley are looking to beef up their attacking options and re-sign West Brom striker Jay Rodriguez in a shock transfer writes Liam Llewellyn.."
"Burnley are looking to beef up their attacking options and re-sign West Brom striker Jay Rodriguez in a shock transfer writes Liam Llewellyn.."
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Is anybody else really annoyed about all the posts which don’t contain a link?
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To be fair, any incoming transfer to Burnley could be described as a shock.Vegas Claret wrote:got to love this line in the mirror
"Burnley are looking to beef up their attacking options and re-sign West Brom striker Jay Rodriguez in a shock transfer writes Liam Llewellyn.."
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Nice to see Matt Lowton carrying D4s bag for him.
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Not at all.Rileybobs wrote:Is anybody else really annoyed about all the posts which don’t contain a link?
A good rumour is worth the read, on it's own merit!
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Worth signing Jay just to see their faces,imagine if he scored the winner at the Amex they'd have a complete meltdown.Swizzlestick wrote:Something else for the Brighton fans to cryarse about.
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After nutmegging Bongtiger76 wrote:Worth signing Jay just to see their faces,imagine if he scored the winner at the Amex they'd have a complete meltdown.
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After the sad behaviour I witnessed from some Burnley fans last season at Brighton I'd rather see someone else get the winner to be honest.tiger76 wrote:Worth signing Jay just to see their faces,imagine if he scored the winner at the Amex they'd have a complete meltdown.
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Apparently West Ham are in for Rodriguez also
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Cue songs about drinking in the Congo...
Cue songs about drinking in the Congo...
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Two great signings. I remember Pieters as a defender that can be mean and nasty just like Bardsley, just what we want against the prima donna's.
Jay will complement perfectly our other strikers, his return is long overdue.
Jay will complement perfectly our other strikers, his return is long overdue.
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Jay's having his medical with us according to BBC Sport.
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JAYROD BFC MEDICAL
According to the BBC site, he's on his way for £5 million now with a further five mill next season.
I don't rate him all that highly but that's damn good business if right.
I don't rate him all that highly but that's damn good business if right.
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So roughly a swap (inc add ons ) for Vokesy
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No Tomori in the Chelsea squad... Mount and Abraham are though.
Could be an innocent reason or could be more to this?
Could be an innocent reason or could be more to this?
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Even better business if you put it that way.
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Has he still got that pathetic man bun?
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Every paper in the UK...
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randomclaret2 wrote:Where has this news come from ?
It's on the BBC football website - it seems pretty legit.
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Harrison reed didnt travel with southampton with rest of the squad to austria . We was linked with him earlier in the window
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PremierLeagueClass wrote:No Tomori in the Chelsea squad... Mount and Abraham are though.
Could be an innocent reason or could be more to this?
Here today, gone Tomari ?
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Wowevensteadiereddie wrote:Here today, gone Tomari ?
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Do we assume from this that Crouchy is not re-signing for us ?
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Chelsea would like to spend like there's no Tomari were it not for a transfer ban.
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He'll fail his medical due to his chronic erectile dysfunction - Tomari never comes.....
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BFC transfer news (must contain shite joke)
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Suits me down to the ground.
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Very feasible that Tomori would be loaned out as opposed to signing for anyone on a permanent basis
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Not sure how much i believe it or dont want to but a lad at work thinks we're in for Joe Allen
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Link providedConroy92 wrote:Not sure how much i believe it or dont want to but a lad at work thinks we're in for Joe Allen
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Heard exactly the same re Joe Allen today
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Just logged on to applaud this post, which is absolutely spot on. Buying young and cheaper and selling much more expensive sounds like a great formula, until you factor in two things. The first is that, as AndyH says, the economics of that model have been massively undermined by the fact that so many clubs are now following that model - either because they're big enough to stockpile young talent, or because they've got owners and/or managers who are especially wedded to that model (often as much if not more for romantic or presentational reasons than financial). As a result, the financial investment to get even pretty average "up and coming" players is now very significant, so you've got to go looking way off the beaten track at players for whom there's no common consensus they'll likely be a success: therefore the risk/reward equation doesn't really stack up.andyh wrote:However everyone is trying to pull the same trick. Buy young and cheap and sell at the peak. As a result young talent is way overpriced. We cant have a team full of players who are gaining value. Taylor, Tarks, McNeil, Wood and Barnes all probably went up in value last season. Add Pope, JBG ,Hendrick Brady and Gibson into the mix and we have assets which are either on the up or could well be with a half decent run in the team. The rest are performers to keep our current status. Not a huge outlay on those players, wont have a lot of resale value but are needed to keep us competitive.
A couple of good youngsters would be great but we don’t want to be blowing 20m on potential that may never land and 5m doesn’t get you much at all in the current younger end of the market.
Secondly, the idea it's the long term strategy is a myth. Maguire would have been seen by Leicester fans as a long term signing when he arrived there two years ago - but it was only 2 years ago, and 60-odd games later he's seemingly moving on and needing to be replaced over again. We realistically expect to lose McNeil in 12-18 months time and we lost Michael Keane 2 years after he became a regular. We can expect to get at least the same service out of Pieters and (touch wood) Rodriguez.
What we want are signings who are bargains and who fit into a 3 year plan - because that's all any club can work to these days. Rodriguez and Pieters are certainly young enough to fit into that bracket. Westwood fitted that bracket, as did Cork, as did Wood. They weren't in the first flush of youth, but they've proved better value for money and provided more long term stability than rising stars realistically would have done.
That's not to say that signing younger players who can be sold for a big profit isn't for us - it is, but it's all part of a balanced programme. It isn't the be-all and end-all, and I'm quite happy for us to underpin our squad with boring business now and then look to do something a bit more exciting in due course.
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Think this is a bit harsh on Rodriguez. I think his passing in particular is a notch up on Barnes (and Wood's), and his hold up play with his back to goal is significant;y better than Wood's. I don't know if he's as quick now as once he was, but his intelligence when dropping deep into midfield and his ability to be a prompter as well as a scorer remains, from what I've seen. Barnes has done a good job for us when we've asked him to drop in as a number 10 from a defensive stand-point, supplementing the midfield 2 - but I suspect Rodriguez has more to offer in a playmaking sense, and as a player who can allow us to play something between the robust 4-4-2 that got us out of trouble last season and the 4-5-1 that was so successful the year before.aggi wrote:Pieters seems a reasonable signing. Not inspiring but Taylor is first choice for that spot and it would be difficult to get a young player of a high enough quality to challenge him (and isn't a huge priority).
I'm not convinced that Rodriguez is a great signing. He's OK but nothing outstanding and not a huge improvement on what we already have. If it wasn't for the Burnley links I don't think many would have been that excited at signing ~ the 5th best striker in the Championship who is about to turn 30.
He may have slightly better link-up play than Wood and Barnes (although I'm not sure if there's much in it) but he's not adding extra pace, ability to take on a man, incisive passing or clinical finishing, it's just more of what we already have.
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Allen would be perfect for us, even though I would like a more athletic (taller and faster, specifically) centre mid, he would for me represent an improvement on Cork, for me.
29 now so ideal age, not sure how much he would cost.
29 now so ideal age, not sure how much he would cost.
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Wouldn’t surprise me at all if Joe Allen was linked with us. Would look at Etebo too at Stoke whilst we are snooping around them again. I mentioned this earlier but can’t seem to find my post
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Maybe, and I'd be more than happy if that was the case. I think that Wood and, in particular, Barnes have improved though and Rodriguez hasn't necessarily pushed on. From the bits I've seen of him he hasn't really torn up any trees in the past few years. His scoring record was OK but not great last year (scored the same number from open play as Jutkiewicz) and wasn't in the top 50 for assists (lower than Wells or Jutkiewicz) even though he played a lot of minutes for a top six team.claretspice wrote:Think this is a bit harsh on Rodriguez. I think his passing in particular is a notch up on Barnes (and Wood's), and his hold up play with his back to goal is significant;y better than Wood's. I don't know if he's as quick now as once he was, but his intelligence when dropping deep into midfield and his ability to be a prompter as well as a scorer remains, from what I've seen. Barnes has done a good job for us when we've asked him to drop in as a number 10 from a defensive stand-point, supplementing the midfield 2 - but I suspect Rodriguez has more to offer in a playmaking sense, and as a player who can allow us to play something between the robust 4-4-2 that got us out of trouble last season and the 4-5-1 that was so successful the year before.
He's not a bad signing and if one of our front two is injured I think he could be an important player. But if we're playing two from three of Barnes, Wood and Rodriguez and we're losing and want to change the game I can't see the other one of those being the one to do it.
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How about taking a young midfielder on loan? Ethan Hamilton from Man U is looking for a loan club apparently and said to be the next Roy Keane.
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Unconvinced that stats will ever tell you the full story for someone playing as a second striker, charged with linking the game together though. I'm not comparing them for a second, but it's similar to the argument on Defour - how many direct assists from open play did he have 2 years ago?aggi wrote:Maybe, and I'd be more than happy if that was the case. I think that Wood and, in particular, Barnes have improved though and Rodriguez hasn't necessarily pushed on. From the bits I've seen of him he hasn't really torn up any trees in the past few years. His scoring record was OK but not great last year (scored the same number from open play as Jutkiewicz) and wasn't in the top 50 for assists (lower than Wells or Jutkiewicz) even though he played a lot of minutes for a top six team.
He's not a bad signing and if one of our front two is injured I think he could be an important player. But if we're playing two from three of Barnes, Wood and Rodriguez and we're losing and want to change the game I can't see the other one of those being the one to do it.
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Tend to agree with much of this. It is good that Jay is coming back. However, I think Wood and Barnes are a good partnership and of a similar ability level to Jay. I think this highlights where we are in the market and what we can attract.aggi wrote:Maybe, and I'd be more than happy if that was the case. I think that Wood and, in particular, Barnes have improved though and Rodriguez hasn't necessarily pushed on. From the bits I've seen of him he hasn't really torn up any trees in the past few years. His scoring record was OK but not great last year (scored the same number from open play as Jutkiewicz) and wasn't in the top 50 for assists (lower than Wells or Jutkiewicz) even though he played a lot of minutes for a top six team.
He's not a bad signing and if one of our front two is injured I think he could be an important player. But if we're playing two from three of Barnes, Wood and Rodriguez and we're losing and want to change the game I can't see the other one of those being the one to do it.
Let’s be honest Jay before his injury was at Southampton, playing for England and linked with Spurs. If he was at that level (which he has never got back to post injury) we would get nowhere near his signature. He is not at that level now tbh.
All that said, the best part about it as others have said that it gives us flexibility to go to a 451 again, particularly if Defour is fit. This is what we need in terms of flexibility and if Vydra can impress the great man too perhaps he may get a look in. You never know but we do at least have some different striking options with good experience
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But even though those players are leaving after two years they are part of a long-term strategy whereby they finance their replacements (and a bonus player too). For instance if Maguire goes they can sign Tarkowski and still have plenty of cash to spend elsewhere. They are leaving the club "up" when they go.claretspice wrote:Secondly, the idea it's the long term strategy is a myth. Maguire would have been seen by Leicester fans as a long term signing when he arrived there two years ago - but it was only 2 years ago, and 60-odd games later he's seemingly moving on and needing to be replaced over again. We realistically expect to lose McNeil in 12-18 months time and we lost Michael Keane 2 years after he became a regular. We can expect to get at least the same service out of Pieters and (touch wood) Rodriguez.
What we want are signings who are bargains and who fit into a 3 year plan - because that's all any club can work to these days. Rodriguez and Pieters are certainly young enough to fit into that bracket. Westwood fitted that bracket, as did Cork, as did Wood. They weren't in the first flush of youth, but they've proved better value for money and provided more long term stability than rising stars realistically would have done.
That's not to say that signing younger players who can be sold for a big profit isn't for us - it is, but it's all part of a balanced programme. It isn't the be-all and end-all, and I'm quite happy for us to underpin our squad with boring business now and then look to do something a bit more exciting in due course.
That isn't going to be the case with Pieters or Rodriguez (although they aren't necessarily bad signings) but we still need to balance the windows. It doesn't have to be an up and coming teenager, someone like Ben Gibson or Charlie Taylor is following the strategy, but the pattern at the moment seems to be signings who are gradually increasing in age, with that being matched by the squad. I'm not expecting us to sign a load of teenagers but at the moment we have one player under the age of 25 in our matchday squad. We have the next group of assets (Tarkowski, Pope, Taylor and Wood, Barnes and Heaton to a lesser extent) but not the one after that.
We can cope for a few years with signing players and making minimal profits but ultimately if we do that we'll run out of money.
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Rodriguez scored more league goals last season than either Vokes or Ings did in our 13/14 promotion season.aggi wrote:From the bits I've seen of him he hasn't really torn up any trees in the past few years. His scoring record was OK but not great last year
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He scored plenty of penalties last season though as I recall. I'm actually a fan of his so not a dig at him, just an observation.Walton wrote:Rodriguez scored more league goals last season than either Vokes or Ings did in our 13/14 promotion season.
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Don't think there is anything wrong with the two additions on face value. They look like solid Dyche type additions. These are lads that are a good fit for us.
We need a CM desperately to ease the workload we expect ours to do. After that picking up a couple of cheaper youngsters or bringing a couple through would help to redress our aging squad issue. We got away with the Vokes/Crouch gamble and the lack of midfield lottery last year. I honestly believe that the club are on the right approach this time.
I think people have floated to either end of the spectrum of the argument on this thread. In all likelihood, if we did the business outlined in the two paragraphs above, we'd all be quite pleased. Way before the deadline and we are halfway to rectifying our glaring weaknesses. This is decent progress from us.
We need a CM desperately to ease the workload we expect ours to do. After that picking up a couple of cheaper youngsters or bringing a couple through would help to redress our aging squad issue. We got away with the Vokes/Crouch gamble and the lack of midfield lottery last year. I honestly believe that the club are on the right approach this time.
I think people have floated to either end of the spectrum of the argument on this thread. In all likelihood, if we did the business outlined in the two paragraphs above, we'd all be quite pleased. Way before the deadline and we are halfway to rectifying our glaring weaknesses. This is decent progress from us.
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The best way to avoid running out of money is to stay in the Premier League.Thats where strong squad players like Bardsley and Pieters can make all the difference.
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So with reports we've got Jay for £10 million ish, I wonder how daft those people from last summer are feeling
The ones who were wanting the club to cough up that extra few million and break the bank for him, pay what WBA wanted etc etc etc
Then the grief they were throwing at the club because we didn't cough up the full amount...
Ah those were hilarious times.
The ones who were wanting the club to cough up that extra few million and break the bank for him, pay what WBA wanted etc etc etc
Then the grief they were throwing at the club because we didn't cough up the full amount...
Ah those were hilarious times.
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True. Although far fewer from open play:Walton wrote:Rodriguez scored more league goals last season than either Vokes or Ings did in our 13/14 promotion season.
Ings - 20
Vokes - 16
Rodriguez - 14
Obviously some will argue that all goals count but given that we don't tend to get a huge amount of penalties I'd say there is some relevance in discounting penalties.
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Agree with above. I think it’s the linking play that we will benefit from.