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MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:49 am

It's not a travesty if we give Dave Jones 1 year.
Hear me out, he knows the squad, the standards we set, the framework, will be extremely cheap compared to others, will only be 4th choice, and would hardly be used in the premier league, just for rest purposes in the cups and if we are down to the bare bones. I'd be surprised if he started more than half a dozen games in all competitions if he did sign.

Also allows us to re evaluate next summer then.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:52 am

MACCA wrote:It's not a travesty if we give Dave Jones 1 year.
I'd be surprised if he started more than half a dozen games in all competitions if he did sign.

Wow, that represents really good value for money

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:53 am

Stretch our budget?
From what Dyche is saying we dont have a budget

LawsCanalJump · Post by **LawsCanalJump** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:58 am

Quite embarrassing how quiet it is on the transfer front
Let's just hope that can change this week otherwise anyone we sign won't feature for months until dyche fit

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:58 am

jojomk1 wrote:Wow, that represents really good value for money

He'd be more value for money than say making another Wells or Walters type signing.
Would expect him to make no more than 6 appearances and would be on similar wages to that of Adam Legzdins who's been here for about 4 seasons and isn't even trusted to be a number 3!
I'd say Jones would be excellent value for money for 1 season, whilst Mr Rigg works his magic, and we can sort it out next window or next summer.

Or would you prefer we splashed out another 10/15m on a player to be 4th choice and sit on the bench/*be injured all season like Vydra, Defour or Gibson?

* Is aware you cannot help injuries

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:06 am

David Jones hahahaha.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:18 am

Villa now linked with the Cardiff keeper. Warnock has said they will listen to offers.
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TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:20 am

Apologies - would appear to be BS

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:26 am

Isn't that the fake on another thread?
Love it if it were true......

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:27 am

Not sure hadn’t, had it sent to me. Looked around on SSN website and can’t see anything so looks like it might be.

Cubanclaret · Post by **Cubanclaret** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:29 am

Why on earth do people make stuff up like that?
Strange behaviour.

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:37 am

Unfortunately time and time again there are some people on this forum that spoil it for others.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:39 am

Dunno, it was sent by someone who had also fallen for it too rather than to spread made up ********

Local cricketer · Post by **Local cricketer** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:47 am

Ben Gibson to Forest according to the beebs gossip page

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:48 am

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Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:49 am

Maybe its me but as far as transfers are concerned
It feels like ....when we are back down in the lower regions of the championship
Scrounging for bargains

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:51 am

Think it's you to be honest , as well as possibly a few others that haven't surfaced yet.

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:53 am

Fair enough ... maybe i expected our budget to be a small bit bigger
In saying that i support the board the way they are running the club.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:55 am

Blyclaret wrote:Fair enough ... maybe i expected our budget to be a small bit bigger
In saying that i support the board the way they are running the club.

Also I'd rather us go with what we have if it means keeping the season tickets frozen next season, and are posting good healthy profits again next year.
The club is only able to continue to do all its fantastic work, and is able to give so much back purely because of our sensible work in the transfer market, I'd rather it stay like that.

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:00 am

I'm afraid that signing David Jones would be nothing short of an absolute travesty.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:01 am

MACCA wrote:Also I'd rather us go with what we have if it means keeping the season tickets frozen next season, and are posting good healthy profits again next year.
The club is only able to continue to do all its fantastic work, and is able to give so much back purely because of our sensible work in the transfer market, I'd rather it stay like that.

Even if it means relegation Macca?
If I recall it was our slim MF that got us relegated last time and this season it seems clear we are one short in the squad already with a far from certain future (Defour) and another MF injury like Deanos would see us struggle

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:05 am

mdd2 wrote:Even if it means relegation Macca?
If I recall it was our slim MF that got us relegated last time and this season it seems clear we are one short in the squad already with a far from certain future (Defour) and another MF injury like Deanos would see us struggle

If we didn't sign anyone else this window, it DOESN'T MEAN INSTANT RELEGATION, even though I'm certain there's at least 1 more arrival, I'd even say a very strong chance of 2.

So let's not panic, it's how we work every single window.
If we miss out, we go with what we have got.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:07 am

MDWat wrote:I'm afraid that signing David Jones would be nothing short of an absolute travesty.

Might be ok if we can paint big arrows on the pitch so he knows which way is forward.

leightonjameslegend · Post by **leightonjameslegend** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:10 am

My gut feeling is that new player/s have been identified.
A transfer fee of 15/20m is not the stumbling block but wages.
If the links of Hart to Porto are true then this would free up the wages to sign 1/2 players on decent wages.
People have mentioned Aaron Mooy, who is currently reported on 50k a week at Huddersfield. Harry Arter on 40k and Camarasa reportedly on 20k+ a week.
This is the reality, ultimately Camarasa would be an easier option on wages with perhaps a slightly higher transfer fee 17m? But as the younger man. Could have strong sell on value in 3 years.
If not we have to find an alternative from the Championship or young talent, but both strategies are risky.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:28 am

leightonjameslegend wrote:My gut feeling is that new player/s have been identified.
A transfer fee of 15/20m is not the stumbling block but wages.
If the links of Hart to Porto are true then this would free up the wages to sign 1/2 players on decent wages.
People have mentioned Aaron Mooy, who is currently reported on 50k a week at Huddersfield. Harry Arter on 40k and Camarasa reportedly on 20k+ a week.
This is the reality, ultimately Camarasa would be an easier option on wages with perhaps a slightly higher transfer fee 17m? But as the younger man. Could have strong sell on value in 3 years.
If not we have to find an alternative from the Championship or young talent, but both strategies are risky.

That's some gut feeling what the hell did you have for your supper last night!

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:32 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:wasn't it Riggs job to identify and aquire Seans needs in players coming in.?

Identify yes, and I'm sure he's done a lot of identifying - Sean Dyche won't bring in players he doesn't want though, they will have to tick every box for him. Rigg has a wide ranging brief but selecting the players we sign is not one of them.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:34 am

ClaretTony wrote:Identify yes, and I'm sure he's done a lot of identifying - Sean Dyche won't bring in players he doesn't want though, they will have to tick every box for him. Rigg has a wide ranging brief but selecting the players we sign is not one of them.

I thought Rigg played down his role in senior recruitment in a recent interview? Said he was primarily focussed in increasing the calibre of players entering the Academy and U23s?

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:35 am

Tony going on that assumption then its Dyche thats the problem
Or the players he wants are too expensive for our board ??

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:40 am

Blyclaret wrote:Tony going on that assumption then its Dyche thats the problem
Or the players he wants are too expensive for our board ??

I didn't even suggest there was a problem - just repeating what we all know that Dyche, and Dyche alone, will choose which players we sign while accepting help from others. Martin Hodge, by the way, remains head of recruitment.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:41 am

agreenwood wrote:I thought Rigg played down his role in senior recruitment in a recent interview? Said he was primarily focussed in increasing the calibre of players entering the Academy and U23s?

I believe he's playing a big part in that area which was always part of his remit.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:45 am

Blyclaret wrote:Tony going on that assumption then its Dyche thats the problem
Or the players he wants are too expensive for our board ??

The problem seems to be more in the heads of posters on MBs like this. A lack of any real information about the situation at the Club leads to wild speculation and guesswork from many, wild optimism in others, and deep despondency is poor wretches like BOYSIE_31.
We just have to be patient. We have fairly consistently pulled off 11th hour deals in the past few years, and nothing indicates we wont do the same now.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:45 am

ClaretTony wrote:I didn't even suggest there was a problem - just repeating what we all know that Dyche, and Dyche alone, will choose which players we sign while accepting help from others. Martin Hodge, by the way, remains head of recruitment.

Dyche chose Vydra ?

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:47 am

Lord Beamish wrote:The problem seems to be more in the heads of posters on MBs like this. A lack of any real information about the situation at the Club leads to wild speculation and guesswork from many, wild optimism in others, and deep despondency is poor wretches like BOYSIE_31.
We just have to be patient. We have fairly consistently pulled off 11th hour deals in the past few years, and nothing indicates we wont do the same now.

Now it's your turn to resort to personal attacks

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:00 am

Steve1956 wrote:Now it's your turn to resort to personal attacks

Can’t see any personal attacks in that post to be fair.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:11 am

Pearcey wrote:Can’t see any personal attacks in that post to be fair.

He likened BOYSIE to a poor wretch which, if anything is a complement.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:12 am

“Poor wretches” is not personal abuse - it’s the other end of the scale to “happy clappers”. The obvious context was the constant doom, gloom, panic and negativity of some posters.

We really could do with a transfer - any transfer...just so we have something real to debate !

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:27 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:He likened BOYSIE to a poor wretch which, if anything is a complement.

Be alright it you could spell it

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:32 am

BOYSIE31 wrote:Be alright it you could spell it

*Would be all right

Just saying.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:35 am

TVC15 wrote:“Poor wretches” is not personal abuse - it’s the other end of the scale to “happy clappers”. The obvious context was the constant doom, gloom, panic and negativity of some posters.

We really could do with a transfer - any transfer...just so we have something real to debate !

We just need one quality midfielder to sign and everyone will be happy and everyone in the camp will be harmoniuos again

I still don't know why people can't have a discussion and agree to disagree without name calling. We're all Burnley supporters and want what's best for the club, we just have different opinions about it.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:42 am

BOYSIE31 wrote:Be alright it you could spell it

Be alright if you could spell "if"

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:43 am

Blyclaret wrote:Tony going on that assumption then its Dyche thats the problem
Or the players he wants are too expensive for our board ??

If Dyche is the problem I don't think we need a solution.

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:47 am

And im not suggesting theres a problem either
Except when the window closes and we dont sign a midfielder
Then i think theres a problem.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:50 am

Firthy wrote: WE're all Burnley supporters and what what's best for the club, we just have different opinions about it.

I don’t think some people grasp that. I’ve been accused of never going to games in this window alone because I criticised our targets/business.

I think it sits well the idea with certain posters that a “true” Burnley fan wouldn’t hold such opinions, and that those who do just want us to fail. Sad to see.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:51 am

Blyclaret wrote:And im not suggesting theres a problem either
Except when the window closes and we dont sign a midfielder
Then i think theres a problem.

So when you said "it's Dyche that's the problem", that wasn't you suggesting there's a problem?

What was it then?

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:52 am

TVC15 wrote:“Poor wretches” is not personal abuse - it’s the other end of the scale to “happy clappers”. The obvious context was the constant doom, gloom, panic and negativity of some posters.

We really could do with a transfer - any transfer...just so we have something real to debate !

TheFamilyCat wrote:He likened BOYSIE to a poor wretch which, if anything is a complement.

Ok if you say so.

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:59 am

Tall Paul wrote:Be alright if you could spell "if"

???

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:05 am

MACCA wrote:It's not a travesty if we give Dave Jones 1 year.
Hear me out, he knows the squad, the standards we set, the framework, will be extremely cheap compared to others, will only be 4th choice, and would hardly be used in the premier league, just for rest purposes in the cups and if we are down to the bare bones. I'd be surprised if he started more than half a dozen games in all competitions if he did sign.

Also allows us to re evaluate next summer then.

Some good points there MACCA,if an incoming CM is going to cost 15-20m,and be collecting a good wedge for warming the bench,is that spending justified,and even if we signed some of the names mentioned on this and other threads,that's still no guarantee we won't be relegated.

Whatever division we're in next season,the midfield will need replacements anyway,Defour will thankfully be out the door,Hendrick's BFC future is in doubt,as he's in the last year of his contract.

We splashed a good amount last summer on Gibson and Vydra,and they hardly got any match time,Dave Jones would be a low-risk stopgap signing,and if the worst comes to bear,we can always reinforce in the January window.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:13 am

Why would we reinforce in January but not now ? We did nothing last January when we were in a relegation fight

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:14 am

Re Dave Jones and his fondness for backpassing.Surely he would fit right into the ponderous sideways and backwards passing so loved at times by Tarks and Ben Mee?

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:14 am

tiger76 wrote:and if the worst comes to bear,we can always reinforce in the January window.

Sorry