BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

[Vegas Claret]

Westwood was sensational last season for us

[TVC15]

If signing Pépé 2 years ago for £15m was a “no brainier” why do you think nobody else in the premier league did it ?

We aren’t restricting ourselves to 2 divisions - we have looked abroad in the last few windows but not managed to get any over the line other than Defour - and tbh as much as I love him as a player that transfer has not worked out too well for us...probably going to end up costing us about £400k an appearance if we don’t see him in a claret shirt again.
At the end of the day the market is clearly very difficult here and abroad - look at the amount Newcastle paid for their new centre forward. £40m for a player who had done what so far ?
Look at what Brighton just paid for a centre back who has never played in the top league.
Look at these guys that Villa have signed - how many has anyone genuinely ever heard of or seen play ?
Look at the money wasted by West Ham
The market has gone beyond crazy - we can afford to make a couple of £10m mistakes but how many £25m mistakes could we afford ?
It’s hardly any wonder we air on the cautious side when trying to bring in players.
It’s those expensive mistakes on big marquee type signings that got Swansea relegated...Stoke....Fulham etc.

[TVC15]

Cheers for that CC
We had no idea !

[martin_p]

Today’s prize for most pointless thread.

[Hibsclaret]

Clearly not just been drinking water....

[fatboy47]

No flies on cc.

[Braindead]

To be fair an actual update and discussion thread about a potential incoming player might be preferable to a petty, dick measuring argument thread that the transfer speculation one has become.

[Hibsclaret]

If signing Pépé 2 years ago for £15m was a “no brainier” why do you think nobody else in the premier league did it ?

We aren’t restricting ourselves to 2 divisions - we have looked abroad in the last few windows but not managed to get any over the line other than Defour - and tbh as much as I love him as a player that transfer has not worked out too well for us...probably going to end up costing us about £400k an appearance if we don’t see him in a claret shirt again.
At the end of the day the market is clearly very difficult here and abroad - look at the amount Newcastle paid for their new centre forward. £40m for a player who had done what so far ?
Look at what Brighton just paid for a centre back who has never played in the top league.
Look at these guys that Villa have signed - how many has anyone genuinely ever heard of or seen play ?
Look at the money wasted by West Ham
The market has gone beyond crazy - we can afford to make a couple of £10m mistakes but how many £25m mistakes could we afford ?
It’s hardly any wonder we air on the cautious side when trying to bring in players.
It’s those expensive mistakes on big marquee type signings that got Swansea relegated...Stoke....Fulham etc.

This

[Hibsclaret]

To be fair an actual update and discussion thread about a potential incoming player might be preferable to a petty, dick measuring argument thread that the transfer speculation one has become.

12 inches

[martin_p]

To be fair an actual update and discussion thread about a potential incoming player might be preferable to a petty, dick measuring argument thread that the transfer speculation one has become.

What updates are you expecting at this time of night?

[cricketfieldclarets]

No topic suggesting it. And even ive better things to do than traipse every thread...

Besides im 300 miles away and not been to texaco on padiham road this week so am a bit behind generally!

[Firthy]

What updates are you expecting at this time of night?

He's 1/6 on Oddschecker to join Burnley. Next in the runnung is Norwich at 8/1 so best indication yet that this could happen although we all know odds don't mean that much.

[martin_p]

No topic suggesting it. And even ive better things to do than traipse every thread...

Besides im 300 miles away and not been to texaco on padiham road this week so am a bit behind generally!

You don’t think it might have got a mention in a 92 page thread entitled BFC Transfer News?

[ksrclaret]

Would be fantastic to see a midfield pair of Drinkwater and Westwood.

I wonder how realistic a proposition it is though, with the gargantuan wages he's on. Could upset a few apple carts?

[RVclaret]

Come on Burnley, make this happen.

[theroyaldyche]

Medical tomorrow

[martin_p]

He's 1/6 on Oddschecker to join Burnley. Next in the runnung is Norwich at 8/1 so best indication yet that this could happen although we all know odds don't mean that much.

That’s just an indication that more people are betting on him coming here because we’ve been linked with him.

[Braindead]

That’s just an indication that more people are betting on him coming here because we’ve been linked with him.

But an update though, surely?

[Hibsclaret]

This will be a great signing and will be a great window for us. Fully expect us to be on the Europa league trail again....

[ksrclaret]

Medical tomorrow

Can we please try and keep this thread about the merits of signing Drinkwater, rather than these tired and misleading 'in the know' remarks. Cheers.

[Damo]

I cant believe, that its 2019 and this board doesn't have a "Run it past martin" feature

[martin_p]

But an update though, surely?

An update on betting. It has no bearing on whether we sign him or not (besides, the same ‘news’ was on the thread I mentioned over an hour ago) b

[dermotdermot]

I thought that you were on holiday, CC. I’ve just planned out your day for tomorrow - see the other thread.

[BOYSIE31]

Westwood was sensational last season for us

Now calm down he was better than Cork

[martin_p]

I cant believe, that its 2019 and this board doesn't have a "Run it past martin" feature

It has an ignore feature, feel free.

[rob63]

Just to put this out there....Dennis Praet is available from Sampdoria for 18 million. Less than Leeds want 25 million for an unproven Phillips.

I thought Leicester had got knocked back at £20m?

[Braindead]

An update on betting. It has no bearing on whether we sign him or not (besides, the same ‘news’ was on the thread I mentioned over an hour ago) b

Don't know why you're getting so precious about it. The betting info updated me, i didn't know the odds and ive been watching the argument thread all day.

[cricketfieldclarets]

You don’t think it might have got a mention in a 92 page thread entitled BFC Transfer News?

You honestly think i can be arsed to read a 92 page thread to check a link might be somewhere in what is probably by now a thread about donald trump,aushwitz and the moon landings?

[BOYSIE31]

Westwood was sensational last season for us

I'm amazed we have managed to keep hold of him this summer then - we must be fighting off bids daily

The only ones to leave after heaton and maybe tarks will be dropping down a league.

[cricketfieldclarets]

I thought that you were on holiday, CC. I’ve just planned out your day for tomorrow - see the other thread.

I am. Finally catching up obviously. Been a busy day

[Panthro]

Any idea how a deal like this could be structured?

Rumoured to be on £100k/w and our cap is say £50k/w so would we expect parent club to make up the deficit for the year as Hart deal was believed to be subsidised?

Sure he cost Chelsea £30m 2 years ago but would we be after an option after one year? If a signing like this had a loan year surpassing all expectations and BFC had cash to make permanent would we rely on signing dropping into wage structure or would we promise to match?

[Devils_Advocate]

You honestly think i can be arsed to read a 92 page thread to check a link might be somewhere in what is probably by now a thread about donald trump,aushwitz and the moon landings?

Not read it my arse, you've just summed it up perfectly!

[Spijed]

I'm amazed we have managed to keep hold of him this summer then - we must be fighting off bids daily

The only ones to leave after heaton and maybe tarks will be dropping down a league.

So you think Wood wouldn't attract any interest? or JBG? Or Taylor? or McNeil? Or Pope? or Mee?

[tiger76]

Would be fantastic to see a midfield pair of Drinkwater and Westwood.

I wonder how realistic a proposition it is though, with the gargantuan wages he's on. Could upset a few apple carts?

Wages could be an issue that's true,depends how much the lad wants to play football i guess,just had a quick Google,and Burnley,Brighton,Norwich and bizarrely Galatasaray are mentioned as interested parties for loan moves.

I wouldn't have thought any of that trio would be able to offer him more than Burnley,but we'll find out tomorrow i suppose.

[Bin Ont Turf]

He likes his name up in lights does Cricketfield.

[nil_desperandum]

Easily pleased then

Like over 90% of us then.
Out of interest who was your Player of the Season, and runner up, and where did Westwood come on your list?. He was very near the top or at the top for most people who watched us throughout the season.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Not read it my arse, you've just summed it up perfectly!

[Vegas Claret]

If signing Pépé 2 years ago for £15m was a “no brainier” why do you think nobody else in the premier league did it ?

We aren’t restricting ourselves to 2 divisions - we have looked abroad in the last few windows but not managed to get any over the line other than Defour - and tbh as much as I love him as a player that transfer has not worked out too well for us...probably going to end up costing us about £400k an appearance if we don’t see him in a claret shirt again.
At the end of the day the market is clearly very difficult here and abroad - look at the amount Newcastle paid for their new centre forward. £40m for a player who had done what so far ?
Look at what Brighton just paid for a centre back who has never played in the top league.
Look at these guys that Villa have signed - how many has anyone genuinely ever heard of or seen play ?
Look at the money wasted by West Ham
The market has gone beyond crazy - we can afford to make a couple of £10m mistakes but how many £25m mistakes could we afford ?
It’s hardly any wonder we air on the cautious side when trying to bring in players.
It’s those expensive mistakes on big marquee type signings that got Swansea relegated...Stoke....Fulham etc.

With all due respect you don't watch nearly enough football if the above is your argument.
I'm not suggesting we do what any of those clubs are doing, they are almost throwing darts at it and hoping one sticks.
Pepe was a standout years ago, I've no idea why nobody took a chance on him and to me they will be proven very foolish for not doing so.
Maybe watch some of the foreign leagues this season (not just the odd game) and you will see there are players we could comfortably afford that would walk into our midfield.

You want me to make a list of the players Dyche has signed that haven't worked out ? It happens

edit: I will add we were linked with a bid for Ajax's Ziyech a couple of years ago so we must be looking

[Conroy92]

The need for us to invest in a good foreign scouting network is massive. We already know that Dyche likes to do his homework on players and signs them based on there character as well as ability. I'm not sure how you can scout someone's character or attitude by watching them in games but this is the element we need to work on in the foreign market, maybe through gaining links with foreign clubs?
If we can find the mix of character and quality overseas then I think we'll find some bargains.
While I feel Rigg was a step in the right direction, I feel he needs a better set up below him to succeed in the foreign market with us.

[mybloodisclaret]

Burnley will not pay DD 100k... i would be surprised if they hit 50k per week on a loan. That's still 2.5 million for the year. Also aren't West Ham now in the running? It reminds me of the Snodgrass situation.

[Walton]

The transfer news thread is a farce, would be much better to have a new thread for each player linked. It's not like there have been loads.

[ksrclaret]

Wages could be an issue that's true,depends how much the lad wants to play football i guess,just had a quick Google,and Burnley,Brighton,Norwich and bizarrely Galatasaray are mentioned as interested parties for loan moves.

I wouldn't have thought any of that trio would be able to offer him more than Burnley,but we'll find out tomorrow i suppose.

I suspect Brighton could. Reports that they've just made a £30m bid for a player from Belgium, so they've got a bit of brass down there

Edit - although that bid is for a midfielder, so they might not even want or need Drinkwater

[Tall Paul]

And you still don't get it. Better ideally but as good as or the potential to be so will do when we are down 1 in cm will do if it has to.

What don't you think I get?

My post was in response to the person who thinks there are players out there better than our first team squad who will play for under £30k a week. There are plenty who aren't as good that we could sign, like Vydra, Gibson, Wells etc but the we get people moaning that we're wasting money (the same ones who moan that we can't sign anyone good enough).

There are no players anywhere in the world that will play for £30k a week in the Premier League that will improve our first team. Well, it's certainly a tough market.

There probably are such players, but if they're good enough to replace players in our first team (that have proven they're good enough for PL football), other clubs will probably know about them and be prepared to offer them more. They won't play for £30k a week if they can get £31k somewhere else.

That's the reality of the market.

It's also not very cost effective to add £30k a week to our wage bill for what would probably be a marginal upgrade.

[Darnhill Claret]

Why do folk complain when SD states that trying to land targets is difficult but are seemingly oblivious when other managers say the same thing. Pep is on record just recently saying the same thing. Have you noticed how busy Watford have been, close to London, just had a great season. Spurs last season. BFC and SD are not the only ones struggling.

[Vegas Claret]

What don't you think I get?

My post was in response to the person who thinks there are players out there better than our first team squad who will play for under £30k a week. There are plenty who aren't as good that we could sign, like Vydra, Gibson, Wells etc but the we get people moaning that we're wasting money (the same ones who moan that we can't sign anyone good enough).



There probably are such players, but if they're good enough to replace players in our first team (that have proven they're good enough for PL football), other clubs will probably know about them and be prepared to offer them more. They won't play for £30k a week if they can get £31k somewhere else.

That's the reality of the market.

It's also not very cost effective to add £30k a week to our wage bill for what would probably be a marginal upgrade.

Most of the Sevilla team (you know, the one that competes in Europe every season) earn less than 25k per week just as an example

We can comfortably afford players from top leagues

[FactualFrank]

You don’t think it might have got a mention in a 92 page thread entitled BFC Transfer News?

[Tall Paul]

Most of the Sevilla team (you know, the one that competes in Europe every season) earn less than 25k per week just as an example

We can comfortably afford players from top leagues

Presumably you think these players would walk into most bottom half PL teams? If that's the case why are they still at Sevilla if they can come to the PL for a massive pay rise?

[Vegas Claret]

I suspect Brighton could. Reports that they've just made a £30m bid for a player from Belgium, so they've got a bit of brass down there

Edit - although that bid is for a midfielder, so they might not even want or need Drinkwater

Sander Berge from Genk, not seeing a 30 million bid for him though ?

[ksrclaret]

Sander Berge from Genk, not seeing a 30 million bid for him though ?

£28m, I rounded it for dramatic effect

[Hibsclaret]

How many Spanish players do you see playing for teams outside the top 6 in England?

Not many and the reason is they need the best part of 100k a week to leave the sunshine...irrespective of what they earn at Sevilla.