Quickenthetempo wrote:I like Cork but he seems to get out muscled too many times these days.

People get paid lots of money to find better players than we currently have. Time for them to earn their wages.

There’s no doubt we need a new midfielder... absolutely agree with that and every year we stay up should open slightly more doors. As such I would expect tweaks to the quality here and there. Defour, if permanently fit, is a top 6 player and his injuries are the reason he is with us (can’t see him play again in claret and blue). Cork is an average premier league player who is good enough for us. We need to cover for an injury to Westwood or Cork and they need to be of the same quality at least.

Blyclaret wrote:Someone on here mentioned Harry Wilson from Liverpool
22 year old attacking midfielder
Scored 15 goals on loan with Derby last season.
Think we would have to break our transfer to get him.

Agree with your last sentence Blyclaret, we'll have to break the £15m barrier sooner or later.

Yeah I don't think Wilson would come cheap. We'll need to be paying £20m and upwards for a midfielder who can walk straight into the first team - that's the price you need to pay.

Not having a go at the board
But after 3 years in premier league and prices going north all the time
Its that kind of player id like to see us buying.
With youth and a sell on ....

I think with the board it's normally a case of 'computer says no'.

Is Wilson the type of midfielder we need though?

He's a very talented player no doubt, but when I look at the side and where it's weakest, I feel like we could do with more of a defensive type.

Villa asking us to drop Heaton price.
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Villa are after wilson

Juan Tanamera wrote:Agree with your last sentence Blyclaret, we'll have to break the £15m barrier sooner or later.

Hmm, perhaps £15 mil would be enough.

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FactualFrank wrote:Hmm, perhaps £15 mil would be enough.

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Do you think he would be a target for dyche ?

Having a tight reign on the transfer tiller, in and of itself, is absolutely fine.

But having that and then choosing to shop almost exclusively in the most expensive market in the world - England - really is a problem.

I still think we’ll sign somebody mind. If not, and I don’t care what anybody says, questions need to be asked of Rigg.

If Vydra is to leave then that’s the only way I see a signing like Wilson being made by us. Ryan Kent would be another I’d be interested in if we wanted another winger, also with him being right footed he would bring more balance to the squad.

Presumably Wells will leave on loan again to Championship as I can’t see anybody buying him, and if Vydra goes then that leaves us a striker short as we all known dyche likes to have 4 strikers in the squad!

Reecey1987 wrote:Do you think he would be a target for dyche ?

Not sure he would be, to be honest. And I don't think we'd want to be getting into a bidding war with Villa, who seem to throwing money at the wall like mud, hoping some of it sticks.

I think the formation we play will determine the type of midfielder we buy.
With Dyches history that will be 442
Therefore i think Wilson will not be the type
Maybe Moy from Huddersfield.... hard worker ...
Thats the type we have gone for in the past.

Hedontplayforyou wrote:If Vydra is to leave then that’s the only way I see a signing like Wilson being made by us. Ryan Kent would be another I’d be interested in if we wanted another winger, also with him being right footed he would bring more balance to the squad.

Why do you think that, we have enough funds and room in the squad to sign a midfileder without selling anyone.

Hedontplayforyou wrote:If Vydra is to leave then that’s the only way I see a signing like Wilson being made by us.

Sorry, that makes no sense to me. Sell Vydra to buy Wilson?

Surprised at Villa wanting the price to drop on Tom. In the current market I realIy think £10m is bordering on "cheap" for such a quality keeper.

FactualFrank wrote:Hmm, perhaps £15 mil would be enough.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/footbal ... ston-Villa" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I’m not entirely convinced by Wilson having watched him, and that figure if true suggests Liverpool aren’t either. They sold Ibe for £15m a few years ago, which is a higher fee relatively when you take the current market into account - and have established a reputation of collecting high transfer fees for players who barely feature.

Drinkwater has been made available.

I appreciate he will be on crazy wages but may make the drop??

In other news I see Palace are after McCarthy of Everton too for £5m. (!)

I still do feel that McCarthy would be a good option for us especially at that price.

Drinkwater should stay in London and go to palace, paving the way for us to go for McCarthy.

FactualFrank wrote:Not sure he would be, to be honest. And I don't think we'd want to be getting into a bidding war with Villa, who seem to throwing money at the wall like mud, hoping some of it sticks.

He scores plenty of goals and assisted plenty but that was in the championship . It looks like hes ready to step up a league and who ever gets him will have some player on there hands . Hes never going to break into liverpools team with the talent they have and would be unfair to keep him

Reecey1987 wrote:He scores plenty of goals and assisted plenty but that was in the championship . It looks like hes ready to step up a league and who ever gets him will have some player on there hands . Hes never going to break into liverpools team with the talent they have and would be unfair to keep him

I agree. I'd have him here, for sure.

ElectroClaret wrote:Sorry, that makes no sense to me. Sell Vydra to buy Wilson?

Similar roles possibly as a number 10. Not sure Wilson would suit playing out wide for us in a 4-4-2

I wouldn't sell Vydra full stop. He's a very good player and if he's given the chance this season could become a fans favourite.

I think Drinkwater or McCarthy would be outstanding signings. Drinkwater in particular would be a great fit in cm.

Either on a 12 month loan with option to buy or permanent signing would be excellent business.

Don’t think we need a Wilson as I doubt he’d be a frequent starter with what we already have.

I’d love to see Wilson at Burnley don’t get me wrong I just think somebody would be sold to compensate. Also I’d love to keep Vydra and give him a chance to show what he’s about

If you google Danny Drinkwater salary, you find a lot of sites suggesting he's on 100k a week at Chelsea.

If that's true he won't be coming here, even on loan.

Quickenthetempo wrote:We need someone who is better than Cork and Hendrick in central midfield. Cork would be a decent option from the bench, on past subs appearances in the Europa league he came on to influence the game and scored goals.

If we don't get a physical athlete in there who can protect the defence we will concede bucket loads again.

Spot on. Its not just about “getting one before the window closes”, they have to be of a quality standard.

Drinkwater has been sat on his arse out of choice collecting cash. Not what I want to see at Turf Moor. He’s had no game time and will be rusty as nails.

Would have Drinkwater here in a heartbeat, but we'd be 5th in the queue.

ksrclaret wrote:If you google Danny Drinkwater salary, you find a lot of sites suggesting he's on 100k a week at Chelsea.

If that's true he won't be coming here, even on loan.

Wasn't Hart on that or were city subsidising his wages?

Shore claret wrote:Wasn't Hart on that or were city subsidising his wages?

That's how Drinkwater could come here. We'd pay half his wages.

That's what I was thinking, maybe that's the next step in the transfer policy getting players in on subsidized wages.

Shore claret wrote:That's what I was thinking, maybe that's the next step in the transfer policy getting players in on subsidized wages.

I think it'll be an option for sure.

Reecey1987 wrote:Villa are after wilson

Bet they don't try offering £7m for him!

It all depends on the parent club and how much they want to get rid of a player.

City wanted rid, so they were happy to do a deal.
When Leeds had their financial implosion pretty much a generation ago now they were having to do the same to get their losses down, I think Portsmouth did the same.

I think Chelsea have already done it recently.

The big spenders keep getting caught out because they're over paying in wages for what turn out to be duffers so it's entirely possible to pick up someone like Drinkwater if Lampard decides to get rid.

rob63 wrote:Bet they don't try offering £7m for him!

Scousers wanted 20 million for him, he was probably their best player in today's 0-3 defeat to Napoli so that would have just gone up, no chance we will pay anything close to that

Vegas Claret wrote:Scousers wanted 20 million for him, he was probably their best player in today's 0-3 defeat to Napoli so that would have just gone up, no chance we will pay anything close to that

He played last half hour and did well

Yes.

Holtyclaret » Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:27 pm .........

" Drinkwater in particular would be a great fit in cm."

Yeah, but what about in inches?

If we were paying big money for drinkwater id be gutted. It must be 2 years + since he played regular premier league football. clearly in it for the money (dont blame him) but hes nowhere near reg football and picks up a massive wage for doing f**k all. Reminds me someone.

mybloodisclaret wrote:If we were paying big money for drinkwater id be gutted. It must be 2 years + since he played regular premier league football. clearly in it for the money (dont blame him) but hes nowhere near reg football and picks up a massive wage for doing f**k all. Reminds me someone.

No way pal. A very good player and you say he's done nothing for a while - exactly a Dyche player. Get in cheap, build up and maybe move on.

We've more chance of re-signing Luke Chadwick than getting Danny Drinkwater

From memory I think we were interested/close to signing Drinkwater the year before he was part of the successful Leicester champion winning team of 15/16. If the lad's still hungry and feels he has something to prove, I personally think he would be a good fit if the price is right. Certainly a SD type player. While i'm on about Chelsea players, things seem to be quiet regards Gary Cahill. Whether he's part of the domino effect should Maguire join United,who knows. What I do feel is this lad will be the best bit of business this window and i hope were in with a shout, although I suspect he may go abroad.

Drinkwater would be a very bad idea.Hes got used to getting paid for doing norhing and isnt what we need.
We need a player with desire and talent to slot straight into the side.As someone alluded on this post wasn't it Riggs job to identify and aquire Seans needs in players coming in.?

True, well apart from the acquire bit.

What about Dale Stephens??
New manager at Brighton.... he may not be in his plans
And Dyche is a known admirer....

Wilh Billing going to Bournemouth
What about Dan Gosling ???

Blyclaret wrote:Wilh Billing going to Bournemouth
What about Dan Gosling ???

Gosling is awful.

Woodleyclaret wrote:We need a player with desire and talent to slot straight into the side.As someone alluded on this post wasn't it Riggs job to identify and aquire Seans needs in players coming in.?

He can identify a shed load of players but SD will make the final decision on who we attempt to sign - and that could be the problem.

Stephen’s is no better than what we have. We need to upgrade not stay static or go backwards. If we can’t source someone good enough from overseas or lower leagues we need to pay for it and most likely stretch our budget.