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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:52 pm
by jrgbfc
kentonclaret wrote:Presumably a season long loan for Nakhi Wells means that should we be relegated then he can play for us in the Championship next season, which appears to be his level. He is not suddenly going to improve over the course of the next season to become a Premier League player. Meanwhile I assume Vydra is still waiting on the platform for his train to arrive.

BFC is like a station from which there are only departures.
His contacts up at the end of the season though. As someone else has pointed out why not take a small fee for him off Swansea and get him off the wage bill now? Him and Vydra are probably on about 50 grand a week between them. For a supposedly prudent club we don't half waste some money!

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:52 pm
by SGr
ElectroClaret wrote:If Bristol City really are interested in Wells, maybe he could be used as a bargaining chip to swing the Brownhill deal.

Hopefully...
See if they fancy Vydra and vice versa since he has no intention of staying here.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:53 pm
by BFC88
Cleveleys_claret wrote:I wouldnt be happy as a fan if we had spent 20 million plus on him when he doesnt create chances or score goals. Likewise 20 million plus on Solanke, a striker that cant score. The two spaniard full backs that cost between them 35 million and have the sum of about 5 starts in the league last season between them. Nathaniel Clyne being paid 100k plus a week last season to basically get ripped a new one by McNeil and then not be seen again all season.

Happy how we are. Lets put the faith in the coaches and the plan we have in place. Who knows we may be discussing Benson being worth 40 million plus next pre season. Because like the above Bournemouth players he has been signed for his potential. The cost is irrelevant. A price tag doesnt guarantee a player is going to make it

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:53 pm
by Murger
Journalist on Twitter saying Sheffield United also in for Brownhill. If we really wanted him, there's no excuse to be outdone by them lot.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:54 pm
by dsr
claretspice wrote:If he can be more effective in a different role, and it makes the team more effective overall?
Yes, obviously. But how good a midfielder would he need to be, to make the side better in spite of Lennon replacing McNeil on the wing?

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:54 pm
by SGr
jrgbfc wrote:His contacts up at the end of the season though. As someone else has pointed out why not take a small fee for him off Swansea and get him off the wage bill now? Him and Vydra are probably on about 50 grand a week between them. For a supposedly prudent club we don't half waste some money!
The idea that we’re some sort of value-for-money kings is nothing short of a myth.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:57 pm
by claretspice
dsr wrote:Yes, obviously. But how good a midfielder would he need to be, to make the side better in spite of Lennon replacing McNeil on the wing?
Leaving aside the argument about whether Lennon can still do a job, why would it be Lennon coming in?

We got to the Champions League places over the first 2/5ths of the 17/18 season with Brady on the left (winger who can get down the line and cross it, by the way), and JBG on the right.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:00 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
Less than 24 hours now to the huge meltdown, going to be some new entries in the whopper chart.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:01 pm
by creepingdeath
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Less than 24 hours now to the huge meltdown, going to be some new entries in the whopper chart.
You mean it can get worse :shock:

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:03 pm
by SGr
BREAKING: Burnley have signed a new Man Of The Match partner

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:04 pm
by IanMcL
We appear to be enquiring about anyone and everyone!

On the face of it, no more successful than previous windows, when a player, no one thought was required, drops in the door and sits in the background, for ever more.

When will we send our email?

Let's hope we retain our players. All will be well.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:05 pm
by SGr
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Less than 24 hours now to the huge meltdown
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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:05 pm
by ElectroClaret
SGr wrote:See if they fancy Vydra and vice versa since he has no intention of staying here.
Absolutely, give BC both, as long as we get Brownhill.
Two wages off the books from players who aren't gonna figure.

What's not to like? :)

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:05 pm
by Rick_Muller
less than a day to go now chaps...

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:05 pm
by ksrclaret
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Less than 24 hours now to the huge meltdown, going to be some new entries in the whopper chart.
Don’t worry about it. Try not to get your knickers in too much of a twist about it. Try not to cry all over your keyboard about it you precious little lip trembler.

Oh it’s fun this name calling malarkey! I see why you do it!

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:07 pm
by kentonclaret
I expect Dyche has got his post match interviews well rehearsed "Everybody knows the financial constraints we are working under here blah blah blah" :cry:

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:11 pm
by TheFamilyCat
kentonclaret wrote:I expect Dyche has got his post match interviews well rehearsed "Everybody knows the financial constraints we are working under here blah blah blah" :cry:
Plenty of “blah blah blah” from you too

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:14 pm
by Damo
We have some very good players on the verge of breaking into the starting lineup.
I'm really looking forward to this season

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:14 pm
by Hibsclaret
kentonclaret wrote:I expect Dyche has got his post match interviews well rehearsed "Everybody knows the financial constraints we are working under here blah blah blah" :cry:
I’m sure he has...much like he has his rehearsed ability to guide his team to premier league competitiveness.............again

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:18 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
creepingdeath wrote:You mean it can get worse :shock:
I’m sure they won’t let us down ksr is already trying his best but as usual fails

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:18 pm
by jojomk1
[quote="ClaretTony"]Not disheartening at all. I just understand our club, the size of it and how difficult it is for us. The ones who have problems or who are disheartened are those who, in my view, are totally unrealistic.
ClaretTony wrote:
I think your opinion is wrong. There is a level of risk you can take and then there is trying to sign a player who will improve your team at this level. Often, and I know it’s proving to be the case, we can’t afford some of those players.

We have had a recruitment team for years now who are supposed to be looking for players to improve our squad and, more importantly, our starting eleven. Is it unrealistic for us to expect them to perform such duties
They will know the budgets that the club have set for signings so we should not even bother looking at players it's said "we cannot afford"
We have known the restricted financial parameters that have been placed by Mr Garlick for some years now but still come up with the mantra "it's been a difficult market"
Then why don't they shop elsewhere - other clubs seem to be able to do so
There are a number of people within the club who are being paid to identify better players and apparently achieving little success

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:18 pm
by wickdkewlclaret
Drinkwater potentially heading out on loan to Burnley

Mandeep Sanghera
BBC Sport
There’s been an initial enquiry from Burnley for Chelsea midfielder Danny Drinkwater.

Understand Clarets boss Sean Dyche keen to add to his midfield before the transfer window shuts.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:19 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
ksrclaret wrote:Don’t worry about it. Try not to get your knickers in too much of a twist about it. Try not to cry all over your keyboard about it you precious little lip trembler.

Oh it’s fun this name calling malarkey! I see why you do it!
Quite right and it’s always the most critical who can’t handle being criticised

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:19 pm
by ksrclaret
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:I’m sure they won’t let us down ksr is already trying his best but as usual fails
Someone pass him the tissue box quickly!

For crying this time you dirty sod, not for the other activity ;)

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:26 pm
by ClaretTony
jojomk1 wrote:We have had a recruitment team for years now who are supposed to be looking for players to improve our squad and, more importantly, our starting eleven. Is it unrealistic for us to expect them to perform such duties
They will know the budgets that the club have set for signings so we should not even bother looking at players it's said "we cannot afford"
We have known the restricted financial parameters that have been placed by Mr Garlick for some years now but still come up with the mantra "it's been a difficult market"
Then why don't they shop elsewhere - other clubs seem to be able to do so
There are a number of people within the club who are being paid to identify better players and apparently achieving little success
I think they have performed such duties given we are just about to go into a fourth successive season in the Premier League and a fifth in six seasons. Of course we will come up with the 'difficult market' mantra because anyone with an ounce of common sense can see that.

You want us to shop elsewhere, maybe players good enough to take us down a couple of divisions perhaps? There are a number of people within the club who are being paid to identify better players and doing so with some amazing success, otherwise we wouldn't be in this league.

Your only problems seem to be failing to understand our club and having no realistic ideas on how difficult it is for us in this league. Dyche often says our supporters understand, your comments suggest that's not the case.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:27 pm
by kentonclaret
wickdkkewiclaret

The problem with your post are the words "potentially" and "initial enquiry" which seems to suggest that no firm offer has been made and that other clubs could also be interested in taking the player.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:33 pm
by Goobs
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Less than 24 hours now to the huge meltdown, going to be some new entries in the whopper chart.
then only another couple of weeks until those same people stop coming on here as they realise we are actually doing alright again and don't look in danger of going down only to reappear in January to continue their tired old pantomime routine.

All good fun though and keeps the board busy and entertaining IMO.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:35 pm
by joey13
Goobs wrote:then only another couple of weeks until those same people stop coming on here as they realise we are actually doing alright again and don't look in danger of going down only to reappear in January to continue their tired old pantomime routine.

All good fun though and keeps the board busy and entertaining IMO.
We’re going to be safe in a couple of weeks ,brilliant

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:37 pm
by kentonclaret
Claret Tony

Where is your evidence for this transfer window up until now that "there are a number of people within the club who are being paid to identify players and doing so with some amazing success"?

Jay Rodriguez was identified during last summer's transfer window and was the subject of umpteen posts on this board but other than that not much else has happened (thus far).

Amazing success is stretching things just a tad don't you think?

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:38 pm
by Steddyman
kentonclaret wrote:wickdkkewiclaret

The problem with your post are the words "potentially" and "initial enquiry" which seems to suggest that no firm offer has been made and that other clubs could also be interested in taking the player.
This is why I posted previously we seem to go into negotiations with a begging bowl, saying 'please sir'

We aren't bargaining from a position of confidence and selling what BFC can offer. We've been in the PL for many years now, and even without outside investment we have pocketed a profit of £10's of millions every year. I miss the days like when we signed Andre Gray. Interested one day, announced the following morning.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:39 pm
by martin_p
joey13 wrote:We’re going to be safe in a couple of weeks ,brilliant
It’s no more ridiculous than those that have us relegated before the season has started if we don’t sign a midfielder.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:46 pm
by Granny WeatherWax
What happens when we need to replace a couple of first teamers at the same time?

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:47 pm
by Pearcey
Granny WeatherWax wrote:What happens when we need to replace a couple of first teamers at the same time?
Then I guess we’ll replace them.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:51 pm
by Granny WeatherWax
Pearcey wrote:Then I guess we’ll replace them.
Based on what evidence. We’ve needed a CM for last 4 windows. What happens when we need 2 at once.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:52 pm
by BigChaCha
I think they have performed such duties given we are just about to go into a fourth successive season in the Premier League and a fifth in six seasons. Of course we will come up with the 'difficult market' mantra because anyone with an ounce of common sense can see that.

You want us to shop elsewhere, maybe players good enough to take us down a couple of divisions perhaps? There are a number of people within the club who are being paid to identify better players and doing so with some amazing success, otherwise we wouldn't be in this league.

Your only problems seem to be failing to understand our club and having no realistic ideas on how difficult it is for us in this league. Dyche often says our supporters understand, your comments suggest that's not the case.
The only problem with that mantra is that it's the complete opposite from what SD says and not for the first time. It's no point knocking the moaners when SD does it himself!

Last closed season you said that our squad was big enough and we had a decent transfer window... 24hrs after you said that, SD stated the complete opposite and moaned all that week that we were light and would of liked more incomings.

Also, this year he has said more than once that we need to think about pushing the financial boundaries.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:52 pm
by Murger
Maybe we should just take the recruitment team from Stoke and Leeds.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:53 pm
by CombatClaret
jojomk1 wrote: They will know the budgets that the club have set for signings so we should not even bother looking at players it's said "we cannot afford"
What wierd Catch 22 logic is this? How can we know their price/wage etc if we haven't looked at them.
Surely we must first inquire of a player to find these things out.
And even if they somehow hear a player will cost X without making inquiries maybe, just maybe a club will take less, though an arcane process called 'negotiation'.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:53 pm
by FactualFrank
A couple of social media posts saying Wells has been spotted with someone from WBA in Birmingham and could be going there on loan. There's nothing concrete to give it any substance though, but sounds a believable sort of move.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:55 pm
by Right_winger
FactualFrank wrote:A couple of social media posts saying Wells has been spotted with someone from WBA in Birmingham and could be going there on loan. There's nothing concrete to give it any substance though, but sounds a believable sort of move.
Agree the loan deal then call him back the night before the season starts just to **** WBA off for dicking us about
In the past with transfer negotiations.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:55 pm
by Pearcey
Granny WeatherWax wrote:Based on what evidence. We’ve needed a CM for last 4 windows. What happens when we need 2 at once.
We replaced Crouch and Ward pretty sharpish.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:58 pm
by jrgbfc
Pearcey wrote:Then I guess we’ll replace them.
Yeah because we clearly find it really easy to sign players.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:58 pm
by Granny WeatherWax
Pearcey wrote:We replaced Crouch and Ward pretty sharpish.
Crouch and Wardy the first team starters?

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:59 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
Right_winger wrote:Agree the loan deal then call him back the night before the season starts just to **** WBA off for dicking us about
In the past with transfer negotiations.
Hehe that would be beautiful

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:59 pm
by Tall Paul
Pearcey wrote:We replaced Crouch and Ward pretty sharpish.
And Heaton.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:00 pm
by Granny WeatherWax
Tall Paul wrote:And Heaton.
With Pope who we already had.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:00 pm
by Lord Beamish
CombatClaret wrote:What wierd Catch 22 logic is this?
What a weird way to spell “weird”.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:04 pm
by Vegas Claret
ClaretTony wrote:I think they have performed such duties given we are just about to go into a fourth successive season in the Premier League and a fifth in six seasons. Of course we will come up with the 'difficult market' mantra because anyone with an ounce of common sense can see that.

You want us to shop elsewhere, maybe players good enough to take us down a couple of divisions perhaps? There are a number of people within the club who are being paid to identify better players and doing so with some amazing success, otherwise we wouldn't be in this league.

Your only problems seem to be failing to understand our club and having no realistic ideas on how difficult it is for us in this league. Dyche often says our supporters understand, your comments suggest that's not the case.
To be fair Tony, there are loads of players in Europe we can afford that would make us better. It's either our scouting that let's us down or someone wants to keep a predominantly British squad. Not saying either way is right

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:05 pm
by BFC88
ClaretTony wrote:I think they have performed such duties given we are just about to go into a fourth successive season in the Premier League and a fifth in six seasons. Of course we will come up with the 'difficult market' mantra because anyone with an ounce of common sense can see that.

You want us to shop elsewhere, maybe players good enough to take us down a couple of divisions perhaps? There are a number of people within the club who are being paid to identify better players and doing so with some amazing success, otherwise we wouldn't be in this league.

Your only problems seem to be failing to understand our club and having no realistic ideas on how difficult it is for us in this league. Dyche often says our supporters understand, your comments suggest that's not the case.
Claret Tony - are you Mike Garlick in disguise? "They've had some amazing success", sorry but that is garbage. What has Mike Rigg done to justify his wage exactly? I wish I could 'work' so little for my earnings!

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:07 pm
by Tall Paul
Granny WeatherWax wrote:With Pope who we already had.
We replaced Pope pretty sharpish then :roll:

Danny Drinkwater

Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:10 pm
by Cubanclaret
I don’t start topics often but I’m in France on holiday and having to read all sorts of nonsense before cutting to the chase on the 80+ page thread (much to wife and children’s chagrin).
It looks like we are talking to Chelsea about bringing in a 29 year old England international to strengthen our much maligned central midfield.
Please can only updates on Drinkwater be kept to this thread.
Personally, I think this would cap a strong window given the quality of the two signings we have brought in and the recovery of one or two from injury, especially if we keep Tarks.