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Steven Defour

Postby CoolClaret » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:44 pm

... I wonder what/who that is aimed at?
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Re: Steven Defour

Postby FactualFrank » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:49 pm

His Podiatrist?
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Re: Steven Defour

Postby Blackrod » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:50 pm

Who cares but other than the feet they look like girls legs.

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby JohnDearyMe » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:52 pm

Blackrod wrote:Who cares but other than the feet they look like girls legs.


To be fair to him he probably is forced to shave them on account of all the operations he regularly has on his legs
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Re: Steven Defour

Postby SGr » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:52 pm

At the people on twitter who decide he should “f*ck off” I imagine.
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Re: Steven Defour

Postby CoolClaret » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:55 pm

SGr wrote:At the people on twitter who decide he should “f*ck off” I imagine.


Yeah probably, morons!

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby IanMcL » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:19 pm

Look forward to a sensational midfielder sorting us out, next season.

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby jdrobbo » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:55 pm

Our very best player. Fingers crossed he comes back fit and strong.
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Re: Steven Defour

Postby BurnleyFC » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:59 pm

jdrobbo wrote:Our very best player. Fingers crossed he comes back fit and strong.

I like Defour but you’d need to cross more than your fingers for this to happen.

He’s also not our best player. That accolade must go to someone like Ben Mee or James Tarkowski - consistently good for a couple of seasons.

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby theroyaldyche » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:11 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:I like Defour but you’d need to cross more than your fingers for this to happen.

He’s also not our best player. That accolade must go to someone like Ben Mee or James Tarkowski - consistently good for a couple of seasons.


When fit he is by far our best player
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Re: Steven Defour

Postby jrgbfc » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:12 pm

It's a tough life as a footballer, eh?

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby BurnleyFC » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:13 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:When fit he is by far our best player

No evidence to suggest this, seeing as he’s hardly ever fit.

He was a very good footballer in his day, though.

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby Billy Balfour » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:14 pm

Doesn't Blackpool always look so much better when the sun is shining.
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Re: Steven Defour

Postby kaptin1 » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:18 pm

Look at all the scars!

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby FactualFrank » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:21 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:No evidence to suggest this, seeing as he’s hardly ever fit.
He was a very good footballer in his day, though.


To be fair, that was his point - our best player when fit.

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby BurnleyFC » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:22 pm

FactualFrank wrote:To be fair, that was his point - our best player when fit.

He might never be fit again, and he’s never been properly fit while he’s been with us.

That’s my point. It’s a bit disrespectful to consistently solid performers like Heaton/Mee/Tarkowski to suggest that Defour is some kind of saviour when he hasn’t actually done anything with us to merit these plaudits.
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Re: Steven Defour

Postby Bin Ont Turf » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:23 pm

I expect he's used to that position with his feet up. :)
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Re: Steven Defour

Postby FactualFrank » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:26 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:He might never be fit again, and he’s never been properly fit while he’s been with us.

That’s my point. It’s a bit disrespectful to consider entry solid performers like Heaton/Mee/Tarkowski to suggest that Defour is some kind of saviour when he hasn’t actually done anything with us to merit these plaudits.


I see what you're saying, but that doesn't make any sense as a reply to what he put.

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby DAVETHEVICAR » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:31 pm

Impossible to compare players who play in different positions.
Who can say Defour is a better player than say Heaton.

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby elwaclaret » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:32 pm

Maybe that’s the ninja turtle that keeps causing all these injuries

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby CoolClaret » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:40 pm

I find Burnley fans that slag him off a bit harsh.... Short memories eh? He doesn't want to be injured does he.

Theres nothing worse as a sportsman not being able to do something that you love because of injuries, it's genuinely soul destroying.
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Re: Steven Defour

Postby theroyaldyche » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:40 pm

FactualFrank wrote:To be fair, that was his point - our best player when fit.


Exactly

No evidence to suggest this? Ive seen every minute hes played

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby BurnleyFC » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:44 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:Exactly

No evidence to suggest this? Ive seen every minute hes played

All 90 of them?

I’m happy to be proven wrong, but I personally think Defour is finished and hasn’t been a good buy, although that’s easy to say with hindsight.

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby Little_britton » Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:28 pm

When the seagulls follow the trawler....

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby Vegas Claret » Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:39 pm

see ya Ste

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby Grumps » Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:52 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:When fit he is by far our best player

No he's not,could be, should be, but isnt.
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Re: Steven Defour

Postby FactualFrank » Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:59 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:Exactly. No evidence to suggest this? Ive seen every minute hes played


But you said...

theroyaldyche wrote:When fit he is by far our best player

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby Spiral » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:58 pm

He's got loomynarty tattooed on his leg. All the $hit he gets on the internet is from bluelabrador and his other accounts sockpuppet accounts.

Side note: before reading any comments I noticed he shaves his legs and placed a little bet with myself: 'Blackrod will have something to say on this matter'. Lo and behold...

Mate, just be honest with yourself, for Christ sake. We'll still love you.
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Re: Steven Defour

Postby dsr » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:18 am

Best player? If I was told that Defour would be fit but the devil's bargain would be that Barnes would not play, I wouldn't feel the side was improved. (Or Mee. Or Tarkowski. Or Heaton/Pope. Or McNeil.)

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby wickdkewlclaret » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:45 am

theroyaldyche wrote:When fit he is by far our best player


That was a long time ago, wasn’t it? He surely can’t be comprehend in any current talent competition surely?

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby AlargeClaret » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:47 am

3 seasons
2 goals
Endless injuries
4000 cigarettes
514 twixes

You decide

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby CharlieinNewMexico » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:45 am

The only player we have on our books that might, possibly, occasionally, approach nudging the perimeters of "world class".

But people still call him out for being injured.

Weird.
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Re: Steven Defour

Postby Blackrod » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:33 am

Spiral wrote:He's got loomynarty tattooed on his leg. All the $hit he gets on the internet is from bluelabrador and his other accounts sockpuppet accounts.

Side note: before reading any comments I noticed he shaves his legs and placed a little bet with myself: 'Blackrod will have something to say on this matter'. Lo and behold...

Mate, just be honest with yourself, for Christ sake. We'll still love you.


You looked at a picture and paced a bet with yourself what I would have to say before you allowed yourself to read the posts. Strange.

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby jrgbfc » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:43 am

Ability wise he is head and shoulders above anyone else in our squad, apart from maybe McNeil. Those goals he scored on the Turf against Hull and Bristol City in his first season were pure genius.

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby Corky » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:43 am

If it helps Blackrod, before it being pointed out that he shaved his legs, I thought he had girlie feet. And CIK it's not about being injured per se, it is the fact that he is out of the team for very lengthy periods through injury that is the problem.

I fear we may get some use out of him until, say October, then he will get injured again.

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby Blackrod » Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:04 am

No question the guy is a class act when fit. It’s wether we as a club can afford to carry and pay a player who is likely not to feature much. It could prevent us from signing a player who does feature. Hope I’m wrong but I don’t think we will see more than 10 90 min performances next season. His career record shows a pattern but he is now older and in a tough league with a team that requires a lot of effort and running instead of just ball playing.

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby mdd2 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:24 am

If those 10 appearances net us 20points I will take it now
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Re: Steven Defour

Postby Bfcboyo » Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:38 am

BurnleyFC wrote:No evidence to suggest this, seeing as he’s hardly ever fit.

He was a very good footballer in his day, though.


Go back 2 seasons and look at the style of play and confidence we had with him on the pitch. The whole team was better with him on the pitch. The best footballer we have had in 50 years , if you can't recognise that maybe you should ask your guide dog.
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Re: Steven Defour

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:38 am

mdd2 wrote:If those 10 appearances net us 20points I will take it now


His last 10 league appearances take us back to December 2017 and brought us three points. That’s been the problem unfortunately, he’s not been fit as much as we would have liked in the last three years.
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Re: Steven Defour

Postby thehistorylecturer » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:00 am

Bfcboyo wrote:Go back 2 seasons and look at the style of play and confidence we had with him on the pitch. The whole team was better with him on the pitch. The best footballer we have had in 50 years , if you can't recognise that maybe you should ask your guide dog.


I asked my guide dog he said Trevor Steven and Martin Dobson were two Clarets' midfield footballers of the past fifty years who had lenghy careers at the top level which far outshone Mr Defour's cameos ? Trevor Steven showed more as a teenager than we have seen from Defour as an experienced player , Trevor Steven went on to play 36 times for England and won multiple league titles in three countries .. Martin Dobson is a club legend end of . Defour is technically gifted no doubt and he has been very unlucky .. and that is about it.
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Re: Steven Defour

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:03 am

SD has been injured quite a lot in his time for us,but is still one of the finest players to ever worn the famous Claret shirt,and in the Premier League era he's the best by a long way.

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby thehistorylecturer » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:06 am

Steve1956 wrote:SD has been injured quite a lot in his time for us,but is still one of the finest players to ever worn the famous Claret shirt,and in the Premier League era he's the best by a long way.


56 years we've spent at the top table of English football and you really believe that Mr Defours good performances in a limited number of home games have elevated him to the status of being 'one of the finest players to have ever worn the famous Claret shirt' wow :lol: ...
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Re: Steven Defour

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:10 am

thehistorylecturer wrote:56 years we've spent at the top table of English football and you really believe that Mr Defours good performances in a limited number of home games have elevated him to the status of being 'one of the finest players to have ever worn the famous Claret shirt' wow :lol: ...

Yes

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby taio » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:13 am

Like Defour. It's all well and good saying he's our best player when fit but being injured all the time means he isn't. We have far more important players in the squad.

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby jrgbfc » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:15 am

thehistorylecturer wrote:56 years we've spent at the top table of English football and you really believe that Mr Defours good performances in a limited number of home games have elevated him to the status of being 'one of the finest players to have ever worn the famous Claret shirt' wow :lol: ...


Going off his actual contribution then no, but ability wise he has to be up there? There's a reason Fergie wanted to sign him for United.
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Re: Steven Defour

Postby BurnleyFC » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:16 am

Bfcboyo wrote:Go back 2 seasons and look at the style of play and confidence we had with him on the pitch. The whole team was better with him on the pitch. The best footballer we have had in 50 years , if you can't recognise that maybe you should ask your guide dog.

Love this kind of revisionism.

It’s the same with Brady and is wrong, by the way.

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby thehistorylecturer » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:17 am

Steve1956 wrote:Yes


Fair play .. he is a good technician no doubt but to compare him with our finest ? No not for me ... 38 games a season home and away we don't just play 10 at home ..

First thing to consider aside from a very good free kick in the 2-2 at Newton Heath is his almost non-existent contribution away from home ..anonymous in most games ?

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby Bordeauxclaret » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:20 am

We did really well away from home at the start of last season when he was key.

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby thehistorylecturer » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:21 am

jrgbfc wrote:Going off his actual contribution then no, but ability wise he has to be up there? There's a reason Fergie wanted to sign him for United.


Yes I did say he was technically gifted in my previous post ..

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Re: Steven Defour

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:21 am

thehistorylecturer wrote:Fair play .. he is a good technician no doubt but to compare him with our finest ? No not for me ... 38 games a season home and away we don't just play 10 at home ..

First thing to consider aside from a very good free kick in the 2-2 at Newton Heath is his almost non-existent contribution away from home ..anonymous in most games ?

Ok I respect your opinion,he doesn't ask to be injured,he's been unlucky,there is a fantastic footballer in there and I have seen glimpses......I like him,I also rate Jeff Hendrick....but that's another story. :D


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