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thehistorylecturer
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by thehistorylecturer » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:23 am
Bordeauxclaret wrote:We did really well away from home at the start of last season when he was key.
Yes we did .. was he ? really ? .. I didn't honestly think so ..I'd put it down to Pope and the defence to be honest ..
Just opinions .. I like Steven Defour but the question is can we carry him ? I'm not so sure.
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by jrgbfc » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:25 am
thehistorylecturer wrote:Fair play .. he is a good technician no doubt but to compare him with our finest ? No not for me ... 38 games a season home and away we don't just play 10 at home ..
First thing to consider aside from a very good free kick in the 2-2 at Newton Heath is his almost non-existent contribution away from home ..anonymous in most games ?
Probably struggled to get into certain games because the ball is sailing over his head constantly. Would love to see a fully fit Defour in the same team as McNeil.
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thehistorylecturer
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by thehistorylecturer » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:26 am
Steve1956 wrote:Ok I respect your opinion,he doesn't ask to be injured,he's been unlucky,there is a fantastic footballer in there and I have seen glimpses......I like him,I also rate Jeff Hendrick....but that's another story.
No he doesn't , yes he has been very unlucky and I can tell you from personal experience that his attitude is first class
agreed I rate Jeff too ... the amount of abuse he gets is scandalous
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by IanMcL » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:27 am
Some of the most penetrating passes, ball retained until he decides, two wonder goals.
He is a very proper footballer!
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thehistorylecturer
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by thehistorylecturer » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:27 am
jrgbfc wrote:Probably struggled to get into certain games because the ball is sailing over his head constantly. Would love to see a fully fit Defour in the same team as McNeil.
Yes a fair point it would be good to see the two playing in the same side
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by Spike » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:34 am
This is his natural position with his feet up !
Would be nice to see even a bit of light training
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by JohnMac » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:58 pm
When fit he may be our most technically gifted player, he certainly isn't our best player in terms of contributing to our points totals.
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by Paul Waine » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:19 pm
thehistorylecturer wrote:Yes we did .. was he ? really ? .. I didn't honestly think so ..I'd put it down to Pope and the defence to be honest ..
Just opinions .. I like Steven Defour but the question is can we carry him ? I'm not so sure.
First away game last season, Chelsea 2 v 3 Burnley, second away game Spurs 1 v 1 Burnley. Steven Defour played a big part in those 4 points.
Tom Heaton was injured in Sept.
If Steven Defour is fit, the question is can we keep up with him. History will tell, of course.
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by ClaretTony » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:22 pm
Paul Waine wrote:First away game last season, Chelsea 2 v 3 Burnley, second away game Spurs 1 v 1 Burnley. Steven Defour played a big part in those 4 points.
Tom Heaton was injured in Sept.
If Steven Defour is fit, the question is can we keep up with him. History will tell, of course.
As well as he played at Spurs, the game turned out way that day when he was taken off.
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thehistorylecturer
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by thehistorylecturer » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:35 pm
Paul Waine wrote:First away game last season, Chelsea 2 v 3 Burnley, second away game Spurs 1 v 1 Burnley. Steven Defour played a big part in those 4 points.
Tom Heaton was injured in Sept.
If Steven Defour is fit, the question is can we keep up with him. History will tell, of course.
Yes he did play a big part as did all of the other players .. Wardie played a big part at Stamford Bridge ..but that will be two years ago soon and he has been released ..
Nick made 35 appearances that season his contribution to our finishing 7th was huge ...
Steven made 24 appearances he is a talent yes .. I never implied he wasn't ... however and it is a big however he isn't much use to a club like ours if he can only play 24 games a season at best ..because he will only be influential in a certain number of that 24 ?
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by No Ney Never » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:18 pm
Danny Welbeck, Darren Anderton, Steven Defour, the list goes on, but all have one thing in common.
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by claretblue » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:11 pm
jrgbfc wrote:Those goals he scored on the Turf against Hull and Bristol City in his first season were pure genius.
the Old Trafford one wasn't too bad!
it's wonderful to have a player of his ability in our squad!
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by Paul Waine » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:41 pm
ClaretTony wrote:As well as he played at Spurs, the game turned out way that day when he was taken off.
I recall Steven Defour clearing off our goal line in the 2nd half. I was amazed and delighted at his defensive efforts. He was putting more effort into the games than he'd been able to do in his first season. It looked like he'd got his "Dyche energy" levels.
I'd like to see Steven Defour produce some of those performances again in this coming season.
It would be like a new signing, some might say!
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by Vegas Claret » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:44 pm
he'll be like a new signing
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by BOYSIE31 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:54 pm
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by claretblue » Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:58 pm
which leg would you prefer BOYSIE?
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by dsr » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:12 pm
Defour plays best in a 4-5-1. When Defour isn't available, Burnley play best in 4-4-2. Has Defour done enough to justify building the team round him - bearing in mind his injury record? No. IMO.
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by CharlieinNewMexico » Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:39 am
Obviously you can't read good
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by Bfcboyo » Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:07 am
thehistorylecturer wrote:I asked my guide dog he said Trevor Steven and Martin Dobson were two Clarets' midfield footballers of the past fifty years who had lenghy careers at the top level which far outshone Mr Defour's cameos ? Trevor Steven showed more as a teenager than we have seen from Defour as an experienced player , Trevor Steven went on to play 36 times for England and won multiple league titles in three countries .. Martin Dobson is a club legend end of . Defour is technically gifted no doubt and he has been very unlucky .. and that is about it.
Nobody asked you to ask your guide dog . Now ask your doctor about schizophrenia.