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England vs Switzerland

Postby FactualFrank » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:28 pm

Come on England!
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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Vino blanco » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:30 pm

Play it out from the back at all times lads, even if we give goals away!

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Murger » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:35 pm

Just keep John Stones away from the lineup.
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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Vino blanco » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:39 pm

I went down to my local here in Spain yesterday and one of my mates, who is a Spurs fan, said words to the effect of " if Burnley's defence and keeper had been playing for England, Holland would never have scored".

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby FactualFrank » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:45 pm

Vino blanco wrote:I went down to my local here in Spain yesterday and one of my mates, who is a Spurs fan, said words to the effect of " if Burnley's defence and keeper had been playing for England, Holland would never have scored".


The problem is England fans want us to defend well yet also complain if we are defensive.

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Bosscat » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:45 pm

Vino blanco wrote:I went down to my local here in Spain yesterday and one of my mates, who is a Spurs fan, said words to the effect of " if Burnley's defence and keeper had been playing for England, Holland would never have scored".

That was the general consensus in our local on Friday night (from 2 Manure and a Chelski fan too)

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby bobinho » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:46 pm

And he’s be about right pal. It’s only ever the big names that play for the big clubs that seem to cock up. Maybe they are guilty of thinking that are better than they actually are.
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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby FactualFrank » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:51 pm

bobinho wrote:And he’s be about right pal. It’s only ever the big names that play for the big clubs that seem to cock up. Maybe they are guilty of thinking that are better than they actually are.


Do you not think that this different style of football isn't going to happen overnight?
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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby mkmel » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:21 pm

Is it on terrestrial tv?

If not anyone have a good link?

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby FactualFrank » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:26 pm

It's on Sky Sports mkmel.

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby claretblue » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:28 pm

it's coming home! ;)

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby claretblue » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:31 pm

Bosscat wrote:That was the general consensus in our local on Friday night (from 2 Manure and a Chelski fan too)


haven't lost at Stamfraud Bridge last 2 seasons + can't remember our last reverse at Old Trafford! :D
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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby mkmel » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:32 pm

Thanks

I don't have Sky Sports so will give it a miss

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:44 pm

Good on southgate for sticking to his principles.

Theres a time and place to play put though and time and place to hoof it. But if his philosophy is to play it out and thats his long term plan good on him.
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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Bosscat » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:49 pm

mkmel wrote:Thanks

I don't have Sky Sports so will give it a miss

Loads of links on here....
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... v5S7HZ0bjM

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby jrgbfc » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:52 pm

That midfield looks awful.

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Tricky Trevor » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:59 pm

Wouldn’t Switzerland be better off with the William Tell Overture as a national anthem?
That stirs the blood more than the dirge we’ve just sat through.

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Squarepusher » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:09 pm

Have to say I feel a bit for John Stones. He made a few obvious mistakes against Holland, certainly, but Southgate has presumably brought him into the team to play in a similar way to the way he plays at City. Only difference being, at City he'll be used to looking up and seeing two or three players available to pass to. With England he's lucky to see one.

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Vino blanco » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:19 pm

He doesn't play for City that often.

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Squarepusher » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:21 pm

True, but he trains that way. He's learned that style of play, and is being expected to implement it in a team that isn't really set up for it.

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby SalisburyClaret » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:22 pm

Southgate seems determined to try new things, bring in fringe players and not just to rely on players from the top 6

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Vegas Claret » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:27 pm

what the **** is the point in picking a squad for him to play pretty much the same players every time ? Lads like Heaton and Wilson should just go on holiday and tell Southgate to **** off
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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Tricky Trevor » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:27 pm

Squarepusher wrote: at City he'll be used to looking up and seeing two or three players available to pass to. With England he's lucky to see one.

Spot on. Our midfield were in hiding when Stones or Maguire had the ball against Holland.

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Vino blanco » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:29 pm

And then play players like Stones, Dier, Delph, Barkley, Gomez, who are top six club players who can't get into their teams.

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby claretblue » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:30 pm

Sutton (in radio commentary) just stated that '...3rd place is better than 4th...'

incisive and informative! :roll:

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:37 pm

How’s it gone so far? I’ve been watching the cricket.

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby SalisburyClaret » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:45 pm

ClaretTony wrote:How’s it gone so far? I’ve been watching the cricket.


You might want to stay with the cricket

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:47 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:You might want to stay with the cricket


I’ve just watched the last few mins to half time and I’m more than likely to go back to the cricket.

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby SGr » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:49 pm

Can’t say I’ve been disappointed. This has been pretty much the standard a third place play off featuring a Dier-Delph-Alli midfield always promised to be.

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby jrgbfc » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:49 pm

Trent AA offers so much more than Walker going forward.

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby FactualFrank » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:53 pm

Improved as the game went on.

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby rob63 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:03 pm

mkmel wrote:Thanks

I don't have Sky Sports so will give it a miss


Im watching it on www.Hesgoal.com

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Vegas Claret » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:12 pm

Ref gives freekicks for everything

I'm looking forward to the women playing after far more than I was looking forward to watching this

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby CombatClaret » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:16 pm

Switzerland games are always enjoyable for the neutral.
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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Vegas Claret » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:35 pm

2 bang average teams

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Darnhill Claret » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:45 pm

Another correct VAR decision.

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Murger » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:45 pm

VAR is going to ruin football.

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby CombatClaret » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:45 pm

Clear and obvious?

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Vegas Claret » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:45 pm

yep, clear foul missed so fair enough

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Darnhill Claret » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:46 pm

Martin Tyler spouting rubbish about it.

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Vegas Claret » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:47 pm

CombatClaret wrote:Clear and obvious?


forget clear and obvious, that's not how they are doing it at all, any foul is being given and so it should be. It does have the potential to ruin the game though if it carries on to this degree :(

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Darnhill Claret » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:47 pm

Obvious? Yes.

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby claretdj » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:47 pm

Even though var has cost us twice now I'm still a massive fan as both decisions have been correct, it's just frustrating when it goes against us though! :lol:

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Murger » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:47 pm

What's the point in ever celebrating a goal? It's taking the fun out of it.
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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby claretdj » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:50 pm

Murger wrote:What's the point in ever celebrating a goal? It's taking the fun out of it.

Think players who score should stand still for a minute n wait before they can celebrate or maybe not.. :lol:

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Vegas Claret » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:51 pm

anyone else just hear Pickford say "he's ******* offside you useless ****" then ? :lol:

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby CombatClaret » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:52 pm

Now we'll get diving from Attackers and Defenders... Yay.

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Vegas Claret » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:54 pm

CombatClaret wrote:Now we'll get diving from Attackers and Defenders... Yay.


now ??? have you not been watching for the last 20 years - NOW we should finally stop the blatant cheating

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby rob63 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:57 pm

CombatClaret wrote:Now we'll get diving from Attackers and Defenders... Yay.


We can't get a penalty when one of our old players shoves someone in the back!

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Re: England vs Switzerland

Postby Tricky Trevor » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:57 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:anyone else just hear Pickford say "he's ******* offside you useless ****" then ? :lol:

It was a Geordie but I think from the crowd?


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