Tricky Trevor wrote:It was a Geordie but I think from the crowd?

deffo Pickford, the only fans near that lino are the Swiss !!!

I’d be interested to know if VAR would have been used if Alli’s header had scored.
Correct decision against Wilson.

With the time it’s taking for VAR to be used I can envisage a lot more posts on here next season complaining about the amount of “early leavers”

the Mrs "what are we doing Saturday night"
everybody who goes to a game "depends on VAR"

Watching Gareth Southgate's England is nearly always painful.

An almost complete inability to score goals from open play coupled with suicidal (and boring) tapping about at the back.

Vegas Claret wrote:the Mrs "what are we doing Saturday night"
everybody who goes to a game "depends on VAR"

I don't need VAR to be denied a scoring opportunity.

Vino blanco wrote:I went down to my local here in Spain yesterday and one of my mates, who is a Spurs fan, said words to the effect of " if Burnley's defence and keeper had been playing for England, Holland would never have scored".

But sadly if Mee and Tarks were in the England squad they'd be instructed to play the same suicidal tippy-tappy crap that Southgate has instigated.

England need a better manager more urgently than different defenders.

******* ****

The Swiss Bar.

MoM

**** england

We couldn't beat a poor Swiss team. ****!

Get used to it whilst Southgate is in charge.

This shouldn't be a surprise to anybody.

decent pens

Open top bus parade.....



For finishing third!

Pickford the hero and unfortunately for Tom he is Englands #1 by a country mile

Rowls wrote:Get used to it whilst Southgate is in charge.

This shouldn't be a surprise to anybody.

If only he put Harry Kane on corners

Rowls wrote:Get used to it whilst Southgate is in charge.

This shouldn't be a surprise to anybody.

Best coach for England in 40 years. Get used to it.

FactualFrank wrote:Best coach for England in 40 years. Get used to it.

No he isn't.

What's Southgate actually achieved as a manager?

Rowls wrote:Get used to it whilst Southgate is in charge.

This shouldn't be a surprise to anybody.

I'm sure Southgate would be happy to sign your sticker book if you were to ask again, Rowls.

He probably just didn't hear you. Either that or he hates Tories.

taio wrote:No he isn't.

Yes he is. Get used to it.

FactualFrank wrote:Yes he is. Get used to it.

You're wrong. Bobby Robson and Terry Venables better. Get used to it.

Doesn’t matter how good some fans think he is, he’s there to get results and win competitions. Robson and Venables couldn’t.

taio wrote:You're wrong. Bobby Robson and Terry Venables better. Get used to it.

Incorrect.

I was about to say 'get used to it' but you must have done that by now.

FactualFrank wrote:Incorrect.

I was about to say 'get used to it' but you must have done that by now.

Laughable you think to date he's proven to be better than Robson and Venables.

Venables W11 D11 L1 and in the 5 games at Euro96 we were average at best in 3 of them. Also the football we played in the friendlies was absolutly tedious and not a patch on the Football Southgates team play at times

Southgate W19 D9 L7

The best England team we've had in the last 40 years was Sven's 2004 team

taio wrote:Laughable you think to date he's proven to be better than Robson and Venables.

I always like to make people laugh. Glad you came around to my/correct way of thinking.

Glenn Hoddle could and should have been the best England manager of the past 50 years.

I was just about to say about Hoddle

Ladies and gentlemen. It has finally come home!

Rileybobs wrote:Ladies and gentlemen. It has finally come home!

Yes, a treasured bronze medal!

Spijed wrote:Yes, a treasured bronze medal!

Silverware. So proud of the brave lions.

He’s got the euros to prove his mettle tbf . The qualifiers are pretty much walkovers so it’s a hiding to nothing for any manager .These lads will develop no doubt . That said another mediocre display against bang average opposition
Semis in the euros will be the target imo.

Rileybobs wrote:Silverware. So proud of the brave lions.

What's surprised me is that people haven't taken to the streets in celebration. Was expecting breaking news with cities such as Manchester, Birmingham & London all filled with fans celebrating this monumental success.

CombatClaret wrote:I don't need VAR to be denied a scoring opportunity.

A wonderful post, worthy of much larger recognition.

taio wrote:You're wrong. Bobby Robson and Terry Venables better. Get used to it.

You lost credibility at “T” I’m afraid.

bobinho wrote:You lost credibility at “T” I’m afraid.

If you think Southgate has already proven to be better than Bobby Robson and Terry Venables fair enough but I certainly don't. Southgate has obviously done a good job. Incidentally Southgate said this about Venables: "Terry opened my eyes to things that no one else has. He has fantastic tactical awareness. Every senior player in the group went away having learnt a lot from him, which is an achievement."

Devils_Advocate wrote:Venables W11 D11 L1 and in the 5 games at Euro96 we were average at best in 3 of them. Also the football we played in the friendlies was absolutly tedious and not a patch on the Football Southgates team play at times

Southgate W19 D9 L7

The best England team we've had in the last 40 years was Sven's 2004 team

Don’t give a shiny shite what stats say to me.. my eyes tell
Me all I need to know. Robson’s England knocked Svens into a cocked hat. FACT.

Southgates England are getting there. Believe in youth. They fear nothing.

Devils_Advocate wrote:Pickford the hero and unfortunately for Tom he is Englands #1 by a country mile

No he isn't

bobinho wrote:Don’t give a shiny shite what stats say to me.. my eyes tell
Me all I need to know. Robson’s England knocked Svens into a cocked hat. FACT.

Southgates England are getting there. Believe in youth. They fear nothing.

All opinion but that 90 world cup campaign wasnt that great. We drew with Ireland with a poor performance, hung on to a 0-0 against the Dutch then scraped through 1-0 against Egypt (when those sides were really poor) with a Mark Wright header

Belgium outplayed us and we scraped through with the last kick of extra time and then we were 10 mins off Cameroon knocking us out needing 2 penaltys and extra time to finally win

The whole British pop culture exploding (madchester) crossing over with football (New Order) plus Gazza plus a brilliant performance against Germany clouded over how average we really were. Look at our qualifying campaign too we were not very good

Compare it to the qualifying campaign for 2004 followed by the football we played against France, Switzerland, Croatia and Portugal in the tournament and without the nostalgia and sentiment 2004 is the best we have been since 66

BurnleyFC wrote:Glenn Hoddle could and should have been the best England manager of the past 50 years.

Great player Hoddle and had great potential as a Manager. Unfortunately had very strange religious views believing that for instance, disabled people deserved their disabilities. Another to fall into the category of religious nutcase.

Looks like Chris Wood has been running the strikers training sessions this week.

BurnleyFC wrote:Glenn Hoddle could and should have been the best England manager of the past 50 years.

But he wasn't.

thomaspaine wrote:Great player Hoddle and had great potential as a Manager. Unfortunately had very strange religious views believing that for instance, disabled people deserved their disabilities. Another to fall into the category of religious nutcase.

Ah yes! That glorious moment for English football when a man was sacked for his religious views and our Prime Minister even weighed in on the matter.

Job Description

England Football Manager (Men's Senior side)

Salary: £5-6 million per annum, minimum.
Role: You will successfully guide the national football side to the latter stages of the World Cup. Candidates must ideally have played professional football. Previous experience of a successful managerial career is not necessary.
Other Info: The FA is a committed equal opportunities employer. Bhuddists, Sikhs and Hindus need not apply as your views/beliefs are incompatible with being the England football manager.

FactualFrank wrote:Best coach for England in 40 years. Get used to it.

Should change his name to Gareth VanTool