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Leeds move for Vydra

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:47 am

I knew this was going to happen and posted it a few times. Let's hope he doesn't move. We'll regret it.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by 2 Bee Holed » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:53 am

FactualFrank wrote:I knew this was going to happen and posted it a few times. Let's hope he doesn't move. We'll regret it.

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/t ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Now, now Factual, time to get your facts right. :lol:

It says Leeds are set to make a move for Vydra.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:54 am

The bottom of your article/story asks if Leeds have the money to purchase him. My thoughts exactly.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:56 am

2 Bee Holed wrote:Now, now Factual, time to get your facts right. :lol:

It says Leeds are set to make a move for Vydra.
It does. But I know a bid has gone in. FACT! :)

It's the most accurate article so far, but they have made an official bid. It's not £10 million either, but just highlighting they want him. I hope we turn it down and keep him. 3 omelettes - people knocking him, will be back in 6 months saying we should have kept him, if we do accept it.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:58 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:The bottom of your article/story asks if Leeds have the money to purchase him. My thoughts exactly.
They've already placed a bid. But it's short of the £10 mil.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:59 am

It's Leeds 20 million .....or you can F**k off :D

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:01 am

FactualFrank wrote:They've already placed a bid. But it's short of the £10 mil.
Then they haven't got the finances to buy a Burnley player.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by DustyBawls » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:01 am

Frank, I hear £6 million bid gone in he'll be top scorer in the Championship if we sell and Leeds will be promoted. Stick a premium on as like Steve says it's leeds! Dont sell!

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:02 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:Then they haven't got the finances to buy a Burnley player.
Then good. We'll regret it if we sell him. They've made the bid though, so they've called Natwest.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:03 am

I'm not saying this won't happen but I wouldn't be basing anything on the click bait from Lancs Live
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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:03 am

From what I’ve read in the past, “Lancs Live” is the modern day equivalent of ClubCall

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:05 am

Sell him and immediately sign Jayrod

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by Bosscat » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:06 am

DustyBawls wrote:Frank, I hear £6 million bid gone in he'll be top scorer in the Championship if we sell and Leeds will be promoted. Stick a premium on as like Steve says it's leeds! Dont sell!
Needs to be 7 zeros on the Czech if Dirty Leeds want him.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:06 am

wilks_bfc wrote:From what I’ve read in the past, “Lancs Live” is the modern day equivalent of ClubCall
It's horrendous. They've set up all over the place.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:07 am

Why sell him at a loss,with the inflated prices of today,and he's a proven Championship goal scorer ....the fee has to be higher than we paid for him...madness if we sell at a loss

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:07 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:Sell him and immediately sign Jayrod
He's better than Jay Rod. But Dyche seems to love JR, so it looks like a formality.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by theroyaldyche » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:08 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:Sell him and immediately sign Jayrod
F jayrod

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:09 am

wilks_bfc wrote:From what I’ve read in the past, “Lancs Live” is the modern day equivalent of ClubCall
How many times have I called out a bid - I don't think I ever have. It's almost from the horses mouth. And no - Rovers haven't joined the bidding war :D

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:11 am

ClaretTony wrote:I'm not saying this won't happen but I wouldn't be basing anything on the click bait from Lancs Live
It's not from Lancs Live, Tony. Give me a bit of credit. I'd normally say I hope it's wrong, but all I can hope for is we turn it down. I added the link as it's the only online source I can find.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by bobinho » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:17 am

I too hope we turn it down.

I also hope he gets more game time this season, but of course that depends on the form of Barnes, and maybe the inclusion of that quality CM we need.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by MDWat » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:18 am

Leeds don’t have the money to pay what we want, unless they strike some weird deal with the Qatari’s.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by ClaretMoffitt » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:19 am

ClaretTony wrote:I'm not saying this won't happen but I wouldn't be basing anything on the click bait from Lancs Live
100% a clickbait outfit with no other objective than generating website hits.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by Funkydrummer » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:20 am

I believe you Frank, no worries. :D
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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by jedi_master » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:21 am

Sell for anything like 7/8m
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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:22 am

bobinho wrote:I too hope we turn it down.

I also hope he gets more game time this season, but of course that depends on the form of Barnes, and maybe the inclusion of that quality CM we need.
It looks to me like SD rates Jay more than Vydra, so he'll see it as pretty much a swap in terms of finance. I disagree, but he's the one who's on 70k a week. I think Vydra is better than Jay Rod and it's not just that - selling him to Leeds is pretty much guaranteeing promotion for them. Dragon's Den would all say no.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:22 am

ClaretMoffitt wrote:100% a clickbait outfit with no other objective than generating website hits.
Not clickbait, as it's correct in terms of the actual approach and bid (but incorrect figure).

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:30 am

How is selling Vydra to Leeds pretty much guaranteeing promotion for them ?

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:33 am

randomclaret2 wrote:How is selling Vydra to Leeds pretty much guaranteeing promotion for them ?
Well for a start, it's obviously my opinion, but they were the best footballing side last season. How they didn't get promoted is beyond me. A massive failure.

And what they did was create chances that they couldn't finish. He's the missing piece in their puzzle.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by DCWat » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:36 am

7/8 million with a 5 million add on subject to promotion, plus first dibs on any of their kids we fancy
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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by AndyClaret » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:00 am

It's in the Sun.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:07 am

AndyClaret wrote:It's in the Sun.
They're a bit slow. I hope SD has a chat with him and makes him know he'll be played this coming season.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by beddie » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:29 am

It's weird. I heard that Leeds were not impressed by him when they interviewed him and we're certainly not going to bow to his pay demands. Perhaps they've had a re think.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:30 am

beddie wrote:It's weird. I heard that Leeds were not impressed by him when they interviewed him and we're certainly not going to bow to his pay demands. Perhaps they've had a re think.
They'd agreed a contract with him but he changed his mind at almost the last second. It was down to him that he didn't sign for them.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by Goobs » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:32 am

DCWat wrote:7/8 million with a 5 million add on subject to promotion, plus first dibs on any of their kids we fancy
Don't know much about any of the others but I believe Marcelo Bielsa has a daughter.
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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by ElectroClaret » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:40 am

To me, this depends if SD is planning to bring in another forward (I doubt it, priority will be midfield and defence.)
Then Vydra can go if the price is right.

The bottom line is I can only see him sat on his arse again.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:46 am

randomclaret2 wrote:How is selling Vydra to Leeds pretty much guaranteeing promotion for them ?
And why would that influence the club’s decision in any way?
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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:49 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:And why would that influence the club’s decision in any way?
I guess that depends on how many brain cells used. Put it one way - if I was a chairman of Burnley FC, it would certainly influence my decision.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:53 am

FactualFrank wrote:I guess that depends on how many brain cells used. Put it one way - if I was a chairman of Burnley FC, it would certainly influence my decision.
Why? Other than your dislike of Leeds, which I share btw.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by ashtonlongsider » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:12 pm

Your never know it could be a bargaining tool if we were interested in Kalvin Phillips.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by snapcrackleandpop » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:12 pm

This may well bite us on the arse.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by IanMcL » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:25 pm

We hot him Dyche fit and got him into the national team. Got to be a profit in it!

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by ClaretAL » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:38 pm

It could be getting put out there to speed up a decision process of any potential swap deals including Vydra.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:41 pm

ClaretAL wrote:It could be getting put out there to speed up a decision process of any potential swap deals including Vydra.
People would hit the ceiling, if that happened...

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by claretspice » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:41 pm

Vydra showed glimpses of promise to me, but in his (admittedly brief) appearances for us I'm not sure there was too much evidence to suggest he's likely to become a success at this level. At 27, the combination of all his experiences at this level don't provide any real encouragement to the contrary.

If Dyche thinks he's worth persevering with, then fair enough, but equally if he decides to cash in, I don't think anyone can credibly argue. It was a decent enough signing as plan B when Rodriguez didn't come off last summer, but was always a bit of a gamble and no-one should be too critical if isn't to work out.

Certainly, you'd imagine that wages allowing he'd be an attractive proposition to plenty of championship clubs this summer and it's easy to imagine he might be a handy makeweight in any number of potential deals we might be looking to do at that level.

As for the comparison with Rodriguez - one has a proven record at Premier League level, and it isn't Vydra.
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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by gandhisflipflop » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:44 pm

Their young left winger impressed me in the play offs. Clarke was it? Might be wrong on that but I think he would be a good buy from them

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:48 pm

claretspice wrote:If Dyche thinks he's worth persevering with, then fair enough, but equally if he decides to cash in, I don't think anyone can credibly argue.
Have a day off, will you.

If people want to come on and argue, they can. That's why UpTheClarets exists. For people to disagree and argue the case.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by Reecey1987 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:53 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:Their young left winger impressed me in the play offs. Clarke was it? Might be wrong on that but I think he would be a good buy from them
Spurs after clarke been quoted 20 million

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by claretspice » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:53 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Have a day off, will you.

If people want to come on and argue, they can. That's why UpTheClarets exists. For people to disagree and argue the case.

Yep, and I didn't say you couldn't argue it or that the topic should be banned, or indeed that people weren't entitled to have differing opinions on Vydra's worth.

I just said that if (and it's still an if) Dyche - having worked closely with him for a year - has decided that the best thing to do is to sell him, then (in my opinion) it'd be very difficult to credibly argue that Sean Dyche is wrong about that, given the evidence available.

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by gandhisflipflop » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:57 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Spurs after clarke been quoted 20 million

I hate the modern transfer market. 20 million?! I am **** at football manager now because I refuse to pay the inflated wages and it's only fake money! :lol:

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Re: Leeds move for Vydra

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:00 pm

claretspice wrote:Yep, and I didn't say you couldn't argue it or that the topic should be banned, or indeed that people weren't entitled to have differing opinions on Vydra's worth.

I just said that if (and it's still an if) Dyche - having worked closely with him for a year - has decided that the best thing to do is to sell him, then (in my opinion) it'd be very difficult to credibly argue that Sean Dyche is wrong about that, given the evidence available.
No - what you did is what you often do. You tried to look down on people. It doesn't work with me. You included the word 'credibly'. This is your way of having a dig and basically saying not to have an opinion unless it's someone you give credit to. Probably, a dig at me.

And for what it's worth - if we sell him, I argue that we shouldn't sell him. Many things SD has done and decisions he's made, us fans will argue against. And you know what? Many of those times we'll be correct. He's a good manager, but he's not perfect.

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