Greenmile wrote:I’m rarely sure of the intentions of anyone walking past me. I never realised until now that this gives me the green light to assault them.

Going to be chaos at the Turf this season.

There is a world of difference in a protester heading to the top table at a private event and somebody walking past you in the street. If you can’t see that then you are thick.

I suspect that you are not thick.

Greenmile wrote:I’m rarely sure of the intentions of anyone walking past me. I never realised until now that this gives me the green light to assault them.

That's because you're taking it out of context on purpose, to suit your agenda.

If someone barged into a private meal and made a beeline straight to the top table it's good to know you'd do the square root of naff all to stop them.
Remind me never to have a meal with you.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:When you're not sure of their intentions, if you think there is a threat to life or of injury to someone etc.

She was meant to be handing out leaflets according to a colleague of hers that I heard on the radio, to raise awareness about climate change.

The woman made a beeline straight for the top table though, so it's quite possible that in the heat of the moment her intentions were unclear.


Let's not forget we've had Jo Brand making her crappy joke about using acid on politicians recently...it only takes one idiot to think that's a good idea instead of a joke and there are plenty of those kicking around

Oh give over! It was a woman armed with nothing more than leaflets. Unless he was worried about the top table getting paper cuts there was nothing to signal anyone was in any grave danger. In fact let’s face it (as has been previously mentioned on this thread) if it was anyone obviously presenting a clear threat he wouldn’t have moved a muscle!

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:That's because you're taking it out of context on purpose, to suit your agenda.

If someone barged into a private meal and made a beeline straight to the top table it's good to know you'd do the square root of naff all to stop them.
Remind me never to have a meal with you.

Remind me never to walk past you without loudly announcing my harmless intentions.

To be fair, Martin and Greenmile do seem like the type of people who work in a security sensitive environment, where everyone they walk past in the street is a potential threat. I'd rather take their word than some Tory scumbags any day of the week

Damo wrote:To be fair, Martin and Greenmile do seem like the type of people who work in a security sensitive environment, where everyone they walk past in the street is a potential threat. I'd rather take their word than some Tory scumbags any day of the week

What makes you think you know anything about where I work?

Damo wrote:To be fair, Martin and Greenmile do seem like the type of people who work in a security sensitive environment, where everyone they walk past in the street is a potential threat. I'd rather take their word than some Tory scumbags any day of the week

We have to do security training annually where I work. The advice is overwhelmingly against tackling any perceived threat yourself.

Greenmile wrote:What makes you think you know anything about where I work?

I dont. I can only speculate based on your use of the written word, that you worked in the higher echelons on society.
I'm sorry if in wrong

martin_p wrote:We have to do security training annually where I work. The advice is overwhelmingly against tackling any perceived threat yourself.

Well there you go. I was correct in my estimations. Mark Field should be hung out to dry for ignoring advice like the stuff you recieved.

Damo wrote:I dont. I can only speculate based on your use of the written word, that you worked in the higher echelons on society.
I'm sorry if in wrong

You just made it up, then.

Apology accepted.

Greenmile wrote:Remind me never to walk past you without loudly announcing my harmless intentions.

You only need to worry if I'm eating, I hate being disturbed when I'm eating.

martin_p wrote:Oh give over! It was a woman armed with nothing more than leaflets. Unless he was worried about the top table getting paper cuts there was nothing to signal anyone was in any grave danger. In fact let’s face it (as has been previously mentioned on this thread) if it was anyone obviously presenting a clear threat he wouldn’t have moved a muscle!

Ok cool, thanks for confirming that he knew who she was, what she was carrying and her intentions prior to her barging into a private meal

Hey, guys, this is a football message board, isn't it? Who are all these people posting who've never seen a steward stop someone going where they aren't supposed to be? Have they never been to a football game?

I suspect we'll see more stuff like this in the forthcoming weeks as people really take an interest in what Johnson has said and the reality of what actually happened. https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1 ... 1647203328" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think most would agree that he has a cavalier attitude to the truth, he got sacked for making stuff up after all, and this will probably get worse as there is more scrutiny.

The racist Lammy endorsing acid throwing, who knew ?

Paul Waine wrote:Hey, guys, this is a football message board, isn't it? Who are all these people posting who've never seen a steward stop someone going where they aren't supposed to be? Have they never been to a football game?

I suppose all those calling for the MP to be prosecuted for assault will also be calling for any steward who pushes fans away from celebrating players also to be prosecuted?

AndyClaret wrote:The racist Lammy endorsing acid throwing, who knew ?

That man is an absolute disgrace and doesn’t do his cause any favours at all. He is just as racist as the **** he attacks.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote:That man is an absolute disgrace and doesn’t do his cause any favours at all. He is just as racist as the **** he attacks.

If it’s racist to hate white supremicists then I’m racist too.

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Thanks for clearing that up for us all!

My pleasure. No charge.

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If it be your will wrote:Hmm. There's hating them and there's chucking battery acid on them. I happen to think this Lammy tweet is wrong, and a mistake. However understandable it might be.

Well, its a mistake because it gives those with a very tiny brain justification (in their eyes for their beliefs)

is it a mistake because its letting them know that we are starting to get annoyed with them enough to think that its about time the problem was sorted once and for all?

I don't think it is.

This need sorting, its 2019 not 1970.

If it be your will wrote:Hmm. There's hating them and there's chucking battery acid on them. I happen to think this Lammy tweet is wrong, and a mistake. However understandable it might be.

That’s a good way of putting it actually.
Lammy does come out with a lot of stuff that is probably not doing him or his cause any favours.
However - as you say it is understandable that someone who has faced the hatred and racism he has whole his life should be quite angry and for them to wish harm on someone who objects to his existence because of the colour of his skin.
If someone who had been abused wished similar harm on his or her perpetrator then in theory that would be wrong too...but equally understandable.

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If it be your will wrote:That is a decent point, no question. But it's an exceptionally dangerous road. I'm not sure we're quite at the point where MPs should be suggesting extremely violent, extra judicial means to deal with the racism problem.

Oh I don't disagree. But how can you get to the stage where the casual racism which is now drifting in everywhere is put back in the box it has to be in if we are to progress?

I'm not naive enough to think that racism will be eradicated, but I'm also not daft enough (unlike others on this board) to think that its anywhere near or ever will be a "majority view".

Time for tougher measures in law I think.

martin_p wrote:If it’s racist to hate white supremicists then I’m racist too.

I’m not just referring to that one tweet, as I suspect that you know.

Two-thirds of Tory members believe UK areas ‘under sharia law’
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 71731.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Unbelievable, 66% of members.

Amazingly this poll isn't as shocking as the one which said they'd break up the United Kingdom, f**k the economy and destroy their party in exchange for Brexit.

Crikey that was a painful interview to watch!

CombatClaret wrote:Two-thirds of Tory members believe UK areas ‘under sharia law’
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 71731.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Unbelievable, 66% of members.

Amazingly this poll isn't as shocking as the one which said they'd break up the United Kingdom, f**k the economy and destroy their party in exchange for Brexit.

They literally would rather destroy the sovereignty of the United Kingdom to take back the fraction of sovereignty of the United Kingdom that we've exchanged for EU membership. They're ******* idiots.

I wouldn’t like to be the person who took those photos of Johnson and his girlfriend sat on those benches.

The press will be all over them. Invading his privacy like that.

BBC News - Tory leadership: Johnson defends Brexit plan and 'row' silence
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48751527" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Finally abandon the defeatism and negatively"

Ahhh. We need to believe more!

The tone is like a really well produced hostage video but both think the other person has the gun.

Bordeauxclaret wrote:I wouldn’t like to be the person who took those photos of Johnson and his girlfriend sat on those benches.

The press will be all over them. Invading his privacy like that.

You mean this photo?

Lancasterclaret wrote:Next home game mate, I'll throw you out exactly the same way and you can let me know if it hurts.

That sound fair?

Taken this from twitter

"I was kind of hoping that opposing the assault of women would be something we could all unite on. But apparently that's a culture war too."

Sums it up perfectly

I doubt the circumstances would justify it. But yes, if you see me on the pitch at Turf Moor moving purposefully towards the referee, player, or other person with legitimate reason to be there, I would think you perfectly reasonable to firmly lead me the other way. And when it happens, I wioll let you know if it hurts more than the more normal approach of being flattened by a fat steward (or Bertie Bee).

When BB flattened that streaker against Preston, most observers thought it highly amusing and that he asked for it. What's the difference here, apart from that the treatments was a lot more gentle, and that she (presumably) hadn't adorned her backside with the numbers 2 and 0?

Either of these people becoming Prime Minister, is every reason to be run by Brussels.

A liar and a cheat, who cares only for himself (remind you of anyone?) and a guy who half wrecked the NHS.

General Election please.

Paul Waine wrote:Hi Lancs, "calm down, dear" to borrow a phrase.

I think crosspool was responding to your "defend a brexiteer" by pointing out that Mark Field supported remain. Don't you think that's fair?

As for BJ, it seems everyone wants to jump to the conclusion that he was assulting his girlfriend. From what I've heard on news and read, it appears likely that BJ spilt red wine on a sofa and that's what set things off.

Well done to the neighbours for calling the police. I expect someone will be looking to move flats soon, not normally a "good neighbour" activity to record what is going on next door.

Looks like they've moved out already
https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/11 ... 23520?s=19" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

aggi wrote:Looks like they've moved out already
https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/11 ... 23520?s=19" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The ones who rang the Guardian then asked for their privacy to be respected ?

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:The ones who rang the Guardian then asked for their privacy to be respected ?

Complains a defender of the man who complained about his privacy being violated before violating his own privacy for a photo opportunity.

I am sure you are making another idiotic point

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:The ones who rang the Guardian then asked for their privacy to be respected ?

Yes. Not sure what that has to do in relation to them having to move out due to threats.

aggi wrote:Yes. Not sure what that has to do in relation to them having to move out due to threats.

Totally agree. Has Boris been threatened? No.

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:The ones who rang the Guardian then asked for their privacy to be respected ?

I presume you think people should receive threats for recording an argument then?

Spijed wrote:I presume you think people should receive threats for recording an argument then?

Then you would presume wrong but you are good at that. I said they have asked for privacy (if you read again) after ignoring someone else's privacy.
Hope this helps.

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Then you would presume wrong but you are good at that. I said they have asked for privacy (if you read again) after ignoring someone else's privacy.
Hope this helps.

If my neighbours are screaming and shouting at each other am I in violation of their privacy if i don't plug my ears, or if i don't turn up my music loud enough to drown our their potential domestic violence?

Imploding Turtle wrote:If my neighbours are screaming and shouting at each other am I in violation of their privacy if i don't plug my ears, or if i don't turn up my music loud enough to drown our their potential domestic violence?

No. And nobody has ever said you would be. Anywhere. Stop making things up

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Then you would presume wrong but you are good at that. I said they have asked for privacy (if you read again) after ignoring someone else's privacy.
Hope this helps.

So you are basically saying that all screaming and shouting from nearby properties is completely private to those involved.

Ok then.

Damo wrote:No. And nobody has ever said you would be. Anywhere. Stop making things up

What was i making up? I asked a question. I didn't make a statement. And it was a perfectly reasonable question to ask too.

Carrie and Boris have had to move out too, thanks to hard left antifa setting up camp outside, the lefty squealers reep what they sow.

Still impressed with them moving back in time for that photograph.

Now that is a rare talent for a MP

Lancasterclaret wrote:Still impressed with them moving back in time for that photograph.

Now that is a rare talent for a MP

You fell for that ? wow !

AndyClaret wrote:Carrie and Boris have had to move out too, thanks to hard left antifa setting up camp outside, the lefty squealers reep what they sow.

Was this the small group of about 6 harmless crusty protesters who were there for about 20 mins on Sunday?