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ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:39 am
by ClaretTony
Voting now underway for best central defenders of last ten years
See link
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Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:40 pm
by gtclaret
I feel sad for Andre Bikey, he could do easily have been the best, pity his head wasn't
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:45 pm
by IanMcL
There is a clear leader. However, 2nd place is a player who made errors, during his 'learning', which was all with us. My 2nd vote went to a proven stalwart, who is also proving a popular choice.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:55 pm
by JTClaret
Impossible not to vote for this man:
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Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:56 pm
by burnley007
Leon Cort??
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:01 pm
by Shore claret
very hard choice
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:31 pm
by Claretmatt4
Can I vote for Ben Mee twice?
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:39 pm
by Foulthrow
Who has voted for Leon Cort??? Good gravy.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:41 pm
by Quicknick
Who the hell voted for Bikey?
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:42 pm
by Foulthrow
I wanted to vote for Amougou but he wasn't on the list.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:49 pm
by FactualFrank
Admit it... who else tried to select 3 to see if they could get away with it.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:46 pm
by JohnDearyMe
Amazed to see that Edgar managed to make 74 appearances for us
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:51 pm
by dsr
JohnDearyMe wrote:Amazed to see that Edgar managed to make 74 appearances for us
At least one (former?) poster would be disappointed not to see him on the "midfielders" list.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:56 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Andre Bikey definitely had the best song.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:59 pm
by CleggHall
Some genuine quality to choose from there, an area of strength in our recent sides.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:21 pm
by JTClaret
CleggHall wrote:Some genuine quality to choose from there, an area of strength in our recent sides.
Wait till you see the forwards list
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:36 pm
by MDWat
On the basis that this is the best players, I went with the two players who have represented our country whilst playing for Burnley.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:51 pm
by Rodneyyouplonker
Duff and Mee for me, two of my all time favourite players, always guaranteed 100%, not the most gifted, just no nonsense the longevity of the two speaks volumes.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:12 pm
by claret2018
Duff will always be a swashbuckling right-back in my eyes
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:49 pm
by Buxtonclaret
dsr wrote:At least one (former?) poster would be disappointed not to see him on the "midfielders" list.
I saw him logged on a couple of days ago!
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:10 pm
by NL Claret
gtclaret wrote:I feel sad for Andre Bikey, he could do easily have been the best, pity his head wasn't
Apparently on his day, Andre Bikey was the best centre half in the championship. Claret Spice said he was the most athletic player he'd ever seen.
He had a backside bigger than Rusty Lee and his day was Thursday. Cost us a parachute payment and his best game for burnley on the Turf was for reading. Oh how the fans used to gasp and applaud his 60 yard balls that used to bounce off the Bob lord stand wall.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:19 pm
by DCWat
claret2018 wrote:Duff will always be a swashbuckling right-back in my eyes
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:40 pm
by claretblue
'...with new signing Andre Bikey (62) lining up for his debut against Manchester United...'
much younger than that CT - think he was 24!
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:42 pm
by FactualFrank
claret2018 wrote:Duff will always be a swashbuckling right-back in my eyes
On Championship Manager at Cheltenham, aye!
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:44 pm
by IanMcL
FactualFrank wrote:Admit it... who else tried to select 3 to see if they could get away with it.
We never play 3 at the back Frank....fact!
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:03 pm
by KLClaret
I know there not the most technically gifted but I had to vote for Carlisle and Mee.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:09 pm
by ClaretTony
claret2018 wrote:Duff will always be a swashbuckling right-back in my eyes
Duff didn't play one single game at right back during the ten year period
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:13 pm
by DomBFC1882
Mee and Keane surely
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:03 pm
by Fretters
It says a lot when Shackel, who captained us to an amazing, unlikely promotion and scored TWICE at Ewood, doesn't get a look in.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:35 pm
by Winstonswhite
I voted for Shackell for that season alone, but to be honest that was in the Championship so I probably shouldn’t have done. He was immense that year though.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:44 pm
by Ric_C
Ben Mee obviously
Then a toss up between Tarky and Keane. Went for Tarky in the end as he has been excellent for a longer period in the prem
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:48 pm
by jrgbfc
Fretters wrote:It says a lot when Shackel, who captained us to an amazing, unlikely promotion and scored TWICE at Ewood, doesn't get a look in.
Shackell doesn't get the credit he deserves because of the way he left, but people conveniently forget Ben Mee spent all last summer angling for a move away.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:59 pm
by ClaretTony
jrgbfc wrote:Shackell doesn't get the credit he deserves because of the way he left, but people conveniently forget Ben Mee spent all last summer angling for a move away.
He didn’t
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:04 pm
by aggi
jrgbfc wrote:Shackell doesn't get the credit he deserves because of the way he left, but people conveniently forget Ben Mee spent all last summer angling for a move away.
Shackell is akin to Coyle. Did really well for us when he was here but because some didn't agree with the way he left they've tried to gloss over how good he was for us at the time.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:09 pm
by ClaretTony
aggi wrote:Shackell is akin to Coyle. Did really well for us when he was here but because some didn't agree with the way he left they've tried to gloss over how good he was for us at the time.
Don’t think it helped that club staff made comments about it being a happier dressing with him gone. Having said that, his best spell for us was in the Championship.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:24 pm
by jrgbfc
Shackell was a great player for us. Think you have to take into account the season he had in the Prem we were let's be fair, a pretty poor outfit by Prem standards. The likes of Duff, Jones, Boyd and Arfield were all regular starters. Mee, Keane and Tarkowski have been fortunate enough to play in better teams with much better midfields in front of them.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:35 pm
by bfcjg
Keane and Mee. Tarks a very close second to Keane.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:57 pm
by tim_noone
bfcjg wrote:Keane and Mee. Tarks a very close second to Keane.
Keane and Mee also...but admire Longs dedication to the cause and professionalism.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:59 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
There were obvious correct answers in the first 3 polls (as was the outcome), but this one isn't as easy.
We all know that it is Ben and one other.
I went for Duff out of sentiment and coming in to the team when not playing regularly, and being for the most part dependable.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:05 pm
by CoolClaret
Michael Keane for me; big game player that scored some vital goals for us at key times...
Bikey I feel could have been the fest, I'd like to think if he played under Dyche and kept on the straight and narrow he'd have been an absolute colossus!
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One of my favourite goals I've seen at the Turf
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:09 pm
by boatshed bill
I went for Keane and Tarkowski, simply because I really believe they've been the best defenders I've seen since our halcyon days
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:09 pm
by TVC15
NL Claret wrote:Apparently on his day, Andre Bikey was the best centre half in the championship. Claret Spice said he was the most athletic player he'd ever seen.
He had a backside bigger than Rusty Lee and his day was Thursday. Cost us a parachute payment and his best game for burnley on the Turf was for reading. Oh how the fans used to gasp and applaud his 60 yard balls that used to bounce off the Bob lord stand wall.
That made me laugh !
He was good for Reading that's correct.
For Burnley he was awful - his positional sense and lack of concentration was unbelievably poor. His attitude wasn't much better either.
Think it was Portsmouth away when I am sure we would have genuinely looked more solid with Rusty Lee playing instead of Bikey.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:05 am
by GodIsADeeJay81
jrgbfc wrote:Shackell doesn't get the credit he deserves because of the way he left, but people conveniently forget Ben Mee spent all last summer angling for a move away.
Did he ********, he spent last summer laughing at the rumours and gossip about it.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:06 am
by GodIsADeeJay81
I've heard rumours that KRBFC was disappointed that he couldn't vote for Keane twice.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:19 am
by Damo
I used to get free tickets for away games from David Edgar via a mate who somehow knew him.
Still not sure why anyone has voted for him
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:57 am
by claretonthecoast1882
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Did he ********, he spent last summer laughing at the rumours and gossip about it.
It is another myth that the stupid take as gospel he was trying to get out the club, that is why we signed Gibson due to Mee leaving. It is also why we signed Wells & Vydra due to Barnes & Wood wanting out and why we signed Hart due to Heaton & Pope wanting out. Think that is how it works on here with some.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:46 am
by claretblue
Ben Mee (82%, 973 Votes)
Michael Keane (52%, 621 Votes)
James Tarkowski (24%, 291 Votes)
Michael Duff (20%, 242 Votes)
Jason Shackell (3%, 38 Votes)
Steven Caldwell (2%, 25 Votes)
Clarke Carlisle (2%, 23 Votes)
Leon Cort (1%, 9 Votes)
Kevin Long (1%, 6 Votes)
Andre Bikey (0%, 5 Votes)
David Edgar (0%, 3 Votes)
Total Voters: 1,188
I make that 2236 votes cast...how come Total Voters = 1,188?
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:43 pm
by wilks_bfc
claretblue wrote:Ben Mee (82%, 973 Votes)
Michael Keane (52%, 621 Votes)
James Tarkowski (24%, 291 Votes)
Michael Duff (20%, 242 Votes)
Jason Shackell (3%, 38 Votes)
Steven Caldwell (2%, 25 Votes)
Clarke Carlisle (2%, 23 Votes)
Leon Cort (1%, 9 Votes)
Kevin Long (1%, 6 Votes)
Andre Bikey (0%, 5 Votes)
David Edgar (0%, 3 Votes)
Total Voters: 1,188
I make that 2236 votes cast...how come Total Voters = 1,188?
I’m guessing some haven’t realised they can make 2 votes
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:27 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
claretblue wrote:Ben Mee (82%, 973 Votes)
Michael Keane (52%, 621 Votes)
James Tarkowski (24%, 291 Votes)
Michael Duff (20%, 242 Votes)
Jason Shackell (3%, 38 Votes)
Steven Caldwell (2%, 25 Votes)
Clarke Carlisle (2%, 23 Votes)
Leon Cort (1%, 9 Votes)
Kevin Long (1%, 6 Votes)
Andre Bikey (0%, 5 Votes)
David Edgar (0%, 3 Votes)
Total Voters: 1,188
I make that 2236 votes cast...how come Total Voters = 1,188?
You might need to look at the voting fraud thread for answers.
Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:56 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
Tarks and Duff aren't a bad back up are they?