Platini detained
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:37 am
Michel Platini has been detained by the French authorities on suspicion of corruption over the 2022 World Cup
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I'd certainly agree with you on him being such a gifted footballer. France had some great players at the time but he stood out as the very best of them.Cleveleys_claret wrote:Why oh why? Such a gifted footballer. When is enough money enough? How they thought they would ever get away with giving a world cup to Qatar amazes me. Everybody in the world knows that for them to get the world cup over more established countries meant that a form of bribery will have happened
If the column inches given to Gareth Bail’s unwillingness to leave Madrid are true, it’s just another example of this greed. He’s set up for life if he lived to 500 and should surely be wanting to enjoy the remainder of his privileged career, by playing somewhere else and trying to win things.ClaretTony wrote:I'd certainly agree with you on him being such a gifted footballer. France had some great players at the time but he stood out as the very best of them.
I always wonder with current footballers when they are demanding more. Surely a time must come when a pay rise doesn't really give you anything because you already have enough money to do whatever you want (I'm certainly not speaking from personal experience here ). It's just greed, nothing but sheer greed.
That’s looking at it from Gareth Bale the footballer point of view.DCWat wrote:If the column inches given to Gareth Bail’s unwillingness to leave Madrid are true, it’s just another example of this greed. He’s set up for life if he lived to 500 and should surely be wanting to enjoy the remainder of his privileged career, by playing somewhere else and trying to win things.
Football is slowly but surely, eating itself.
That's a great point hahaDyched wrote:That’s looking at it from Gareth Bale the footballer point of view.
Look at it from the normal everyday welsh chap point of view. Being paid hundreds of thousands a week for little work in one of the most beautiful cities in the world.
I think that it must be status with a lot of the top players, a need to be on the most money at a club, in the league etc.ClaretTony wrote:I'd certainly agree with you on him being such a gifted footballer. France had some great players at the time but he stood out as the very best of them.
I always wonder with current footballers when they are demanding more. Surely a time must come when a pay rise doesn't really give you anything because you already have enough money to do whatever you want (I'm certainly not speaking from personal experience here ). It's just greed, nothing but sheer greed.
Other than that, what have the Romans ever done for us ?JTClaret wrote:
(Yes, I get the issues eg. the heat, the politics, the culture, the beliefs etc. - But if that's an issue then football is discriminating, even if rightly)
Taking the world cup to a country with a population of a couple of million, a good number of whom are presumably immigrants there to build the infrastructure for the world cup, is not extending the reach of football around the world. South Africa would fit that criteria, as would Japan/South Korea but Qatar?JTClaret wrote:Playing devil's advocate here a little bit, but wasn't one of the things behind the World Cup to extend the reach of football around the world?
Making the likes of Qatar an ideal place for the World Cup.
(Yes, I get the issues eg. the heat, the politics, the culture, the beliefs etc. - But if that's an issue then football is discriminating, even if rightly)
Also ScotlandRileybobs wrote:Taking the world cup to a country with a population of a couple of million, a good number of whom are presumably immigrants there to build the infrastructure for the world cup, is not extending the reach of football around the world. South Africa would fit that criteria, as would Japan/South Korea but Qatar?
Top level footballers by their nature are very competitive. I imagine that extends out to "winning" the pay negotiations as well. (Plus obviously the more money the player earns the more money the agent earns.)ClaretTony wrote:I'd certainly agree with you on him being such a gifted footballer. France had some great players at the time but he stood out as the very best of them.
I always wonder with current footballers when they are demanding more. Surely a time must come when a pay rise doesn't really give you anything because you already have enough money to do whatever you want (I'm certainly not speaking from personal experience here ). It's just greed, nothing but sheer greed.
Is it genuine greed by the player or the agent? I wonder how much influence the agent has, do the players really set demands and say ''I want X amount'' or is it all handled by the agent? I have absolutely no idea, but I'd be interested to know the true use of a ''super agent'' compared with the standard smaller football agent when negotiating with these top clubs. It does seem half the time, the agents are pushing for moves and I'd guess the agents will be convincing the players it's a good move to profit financially themselves, slimy business.ClaretTony wrote:I'd certainly agree with you on him being such a gifted footballer. France had some great players at the time but he stood out as the very best of them.
I always wonder with current footballers when they are demanding more. Surely a time must come when a pay rise doesn't really give you anything because you already have enough money to do whatever you want (I'm certainly not speaking from personal experience here ). It's just greed, nothing but sheer greed.
Spike wrote:My dear old Dad god bless him told me to never trust the French they don't wash their underwear often enough.
They are certainly very competitive and that never leaves themaggi wrote:Top level footballers by their nature are very competitive. I imagine that extends out to "winning" the pay negotiations as well. (Plus obviously the more money the player earns the more money the agent earns.)
Fully agree with you. One example for me of this is Alan Shearer. Not up on the figures but gave his accountant something like 5 million with the promise of it being worth 20 million after 5 years. When he realised the accountant had lost his money he took him to court to claim it back saying it had been mis sold. I dont mind Shearer but the greed amazes me. Why with all his money does he want more, and expect it for doing nothing?ClaretTony wrote:I'd certainly agree with you on him being such a gifted footballer. France had some great players at the time but he stood out as the very best of them.
I always wonder with current footballers when they are demanding more. Surely a time must come when a pay rise doesn't really give you anything because you already have enough money to do whatever you want (I'm certainly not speaking from personal experience here ). It's just greed, nothing but sheer greed.
If it was you and it was 5k being turned into 20k wouldn't you chase it?Cleveleys_claret wrote:Fully agree with you. One example for me of this is Alan Shearer. Not up on the figures but gave his accountant something like 5 million with the promise of it being worth 20 million after 5 years. When he realised the accountant had lost his money he took him to court to claim it back saying it had been mis sold. I dont mind Shearer but the greed amazes me. Why with all his money does he want more, and expect it for doing nothing?
I’m pretty sure the Scots and Welsh will be doing that by just not qualifying again....jrgbfc wrote:Would love to see our FA take a stand and boycott the 2022 World Cup. The whole thing absolutely stinks.