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WTF is going on?

That place needs a sherrif.

Or maybe more Police?

It isn't a sheriff, if they had a table tennis table and a youth centre none of this would be happening. That is the excuse trotted out by various groups, close youth centres and this is what happens.

I had a video sent of a group getting into a fight then one just starts firing a hand gun at everyone closely followed by stabbings, who knew the lack of a youth centre could cause such behaviour. Still don't criticise Khan that is racist and certainly don't criticise the cowards doing it.

Lack of police, easy access to drugs, a desire to be in the gangsta lifestyle, forced to be in the gangsta lifestyle, lack of parental responsibility etc.
Influx of immigrants, lack of jobs for people etc.

It all contributes to the mess we are seeing.

What exactly should Khan be doing about this?

I see him blamed quite a bit. What should he be doing that he isn’t doing or that others have done previously?

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: Influx of immigrants, lack of jobs for people etc.

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In London? Really?
Highest number of people in employment rate In london ever, and lowest unemployment.
Immigration, - definitely not an issue for "Londoners", even if those outside the capital think that it is.

nil_desperandum wrote:In London? Really?
Highest number of people in employment rate In london ever, and lowest unemployment.
Immigration, - definitely not an issue for "Londoners", even if those outside the capital think that it is.

which Londoners have confirmed this to you ?

No doubt their obituaries (when they get stabbed) will label them as talented footballers or aspiring musicians ... You know, salt of the earth

Bordeauxclaret wrote:What exactly should Khan be doing about this?

I see him blamed quite a bit. What should he be doing that he isn’t doing or that others have done previously?

Request the police to increase Stop and Search but target it on the groups of our society that are the main cause of the problem.

Stop blathering on about Brexit and Trump and talk about the real problems.

Earn his cash like some of the rest of us have to do.

Bordeauxclaret wrote:What exactly should Khan be doing about this?

I see him blamed quite a bit. What should he be doing that he isn’t doing or that others have done previously?

From what I can see, he's allocating as many resources as he can, but he's hampered by an actual lack of police and (isn't it Tsar Bomba on here who is a PC in the capital?) a the collapse of the information/intelligence networks due to staff shortages and cuts.

It a horrible situation, and the usual suspects blaming him do tend to concentrate on his colour and his race.

Lancasterclaret wrote:From what I can see, he's allocating as many resources as he can, but he's hampered by an actual lack of police and (isn't it Tsar Bomba on here who is a PC in the capital?) a the collapse of the information/intelligence networks due to staff shortages and cuts.

It a horrible situation, and the usual suspects blaming him do tend to concentrate on his colour and his race.

That is partly why we end up where we are today, we can criticise a white man for any of his failings and it is justified, we can criticise a non white person because of his failings and it is his colour really people are criticising.

Maybe everyone should be treated equally and when they are wrong we can say they are wrong

Lancasterclaret wrote:From what I can see, he's allocating as many resources as he can, but he's hampered by an actual lack of police and (isn't it Tsar Bomba on here who is a PC in the capital?) a the collapse of the information/intelligence networks due to staff shortages and cuts.

It a horrible situation, and the usual suspects blaming him do tend to concentrate on his colour and his race.

Most people blame him for his ineptitude but if you want to bring in race and colour as a get out card then fair enough.

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: which Londoners have confirmed this to you ?

Those who take part in surveys, the London papers, available data / statistics etc.etc.
I think you'd be hard pressed to find statistics / data that contradict this.
(I didn't, incidentally, disagree with the rest of the post that Sidney posted).

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:That is partly why we end up where we are today, we can criticise a white man for any of his failings and it is justified, we can criticise a non white person because of his failings and it is his colour really people are criticising.

Maybe everyone should be treated equally and when they are wrong we can say they are wrong

Aye, try doing it sometime.

Lord Rothbury wrote:Most people blame him for his ineptitude but if you want to bring in race and colour as a get out card then fair enough.

That would be a fair point, but we've all read your usual posts. You make Andyclaret look like a poster boy for multiculturalism.

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:That is partly why we end up where we are today, we can criticise a white man for any of his failings and it is justified, we can criticise a non white person because of his failings and it is his colour really people are criticising.

Maybe everyone should be treated equally and when they are wrong we can say they are wrong

Fine

You read the normal comments on here from the cave dwellers and then disagree with what I put.

So the answer is stop and search and spending less time talking about Brexit and Trump.

Seems an easy fix.

It's the Tories who have slashed police numbers/budgets but of course it's all the fault of the Mayor who represents Labour.

You really are an utter tool Lancaster.

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Or maybe more Police?

I was walking down the street near my office the other day and saw a couple of police who just appeared to be on patrol. It made me think when was the last time I'd seen a similar thing (rather than at a train station, event, called out to a crime) and I couldn't actually remember.

gandhisflipflop wrote:You really are an utter tool Lancaster.

I take any criticism from posters like you as a pretty clear sign I'm on the right track.

Lancasterclaret wrote:I take any criticism from posters like you as a pretty clear sign I'm on the right track.

I'm glad I don't have the same mindset from 'posters like you' superior one.

Down here in rural Staffordshire, you'll very rarely see a police officer - never on patrol on foot, always driving through the village en route to somewhere else.
Black Country Burglar Billy has realised this and uses the A38 and M42 corridors to raid the village and then do one.
Several burglaries, in broad daylight, four Range-Rovers nicked in a week and the blue-rinsed brigade are up in arms. Questions will be asked of the Tories at local and county level , apparently.
I wonder if they'll be able to work out what the solution might be ?

Bordeauxclaret wrote:So the answer is stop and search and spending less time talking about Brexit and Trump.

Seems an easy fix.

Well may be capital punishment for anyone found guilty of serious knife or gun crime.May not be the full answer but it should stop re offending.

I might be wrong, but for those that claim there is no problem, I rather doubt they would think the same way if they had to endure this kind of behaviour on a regular basis.

Bordeauxclaret wrote:So the answer is stop and search and spending less time talking about Brexit and Trump.

Seems an easy fix.

He says stop and search only because he’s too cowardly to say “racial profiling”

Lord Rothbury wrote:Request the police to increase Stop and Search but target it on the groups of our society that are the main cause of the problem.

gandhisflipflop wrote:I'm glad I don't have the same mindset from 'posters like you' superior one.

Right back at you. I'm very glad that I don't have your mind set.

But you think its "superior" not to be what you are?

Jeez mate

Lord Rothbury wrote:Well may be capital punishment for anyone found guilty of serious knife or gun crime.May not be the full answer but it should stop re offending.

Ok, I’m not sure that’s in Khan’s remit to be honest.

Greenmile wrote:He says stop and search only because he’s too cowardly to say “racial profiling”

No point in targeting pedestrians for drink driving ,no point targeting targeting OAPs for underage drinking.

Is that racial profiling.

Unless your target the groups that cause any sort of problem you may as well p into the wind.

tarkys_ears wrote:No doubt their obituaries (when they get stabbed) will label them as talented footballers or aspiring musicians ... You know, salt of the earth

" He was an angel, he'd never be involved in that, he was an innocent bystander " ... etc, followed by social media posts of said person posing with guns and £50 notes, making gang signs ... sad but too often true in these cases ..

Unless your target the groups that cause any sort of problem you may as well p into the wind.

Do you have a particular group in mind?

Lord Rothbury wrote:Most people blame him for his ineptitude but if you want to bring in race and colour as a get out card then fair enough.

Crime, murder, and knifecrime was already on the up in the last two years Boris Johnson was mayor. The issue is clearly around austerity.

How has Khan been inept? I'm genuinely curious how you've arrived at that. He's not as big a self publicist as Livingstone or Johnson, but he's been dealing with bigger problems.

mkmel wrote:Unless your target the groups that cause any sort of problem you may as well p into the wind.

Do you have a particular group in mind?

Maybe we can get some cops from the US (particularly those from the mid to South States) to come over and show our lot how to deal with youth offenders and racial profiling.

Let them get on with it. Hopefully all the orcs will eventually murder enough of each other for it to not be a problem anymore

This is how austerity is a failed policy. Youth centres, and Surestart cost peanuts compared to processing a young person through the justice system, or providing life saving trauma care under the NHS. The government saved tens of millions, but it's cost them hundreds of millions.

We should get Donald Trump as sheriff he’s shown over the pond how to clear up violence in big cities.

AndrewJB wrote:Crime, murder, and knifecrime was already on the up in the last two years Boris Johnson was mayor. The issue is clearly around austerity.

How has Khan been inept? I'm genuinely curious how you've arrived at that. He's not as big a self publicist as Livingstone or Johnson, but he's been dealing with bigger problems.

Clearly ABOUT AUSTERITY what a load of nonsense.Take a look at the video do those kids look poor.Well OK a couple of them maybe do not have Samsung S10 yet but no doubt they will be working on acquiring one.

Lancasterclaret wrote:From what I can see, he's allocating as many resources as he can, but he's hampered by an actual lack of police and (isn't it Tsar Bomba on here who is a PC in the capital?) a the collapse of the information/intelligence networks due to staff shortages and cuts.

It a horrible situation, and the usual suspects blaming him do tend to concentrate on his colour and his race.

It’s very easy just to say ‘increase stop and search’, but we don’t have the officers out on the streets. My response team is regularly 25-50% under strength.

We can’t even meet our 999 call demand, let alone have the time to do any proactive work.

If you were to speak to any officer, then they would without doubt point the finger at May for the mess Policing finds itself in.

I get no pleasure out of saying this, but we have absolutely lost the streets, and the criminals are well aware and taking full advantage.

nil_desperandum wrote:In London? Really?
Highest number of people in employment rate In london ever, and lowest unemployment.
Immigration, - definitely not an issue for "Londoners", even if those outside the capital think that it is.

I'll expand my answer for you, it's probably easier...

Immigration - I'm referring to the undesirable types, they don't **** about when it comes to crime, dealing with people who cross them and getting youngsters involved etc.
As for jobs, the youngsters don't want to work in certain places, but the immigrants are more than happy to fill jobs at places like coffee shops, fast food joints and care work.

That's what I meant, I just couldn't be arsed going the long way round.

Lord Rothbury wrote:Clearly ABOUT AUSTERITY what a load of nonsense.Take a look at the video do those kids look poor.Well OK a couple of them maybe do not have Samsung S10 yet but no doubt they will be working on acquiring one.

I don't think you're really following this thread or topic, or maybe you choose to deliberately misunderstand.
It's nothing to do with the apparent personal wealth of the victims / perpetrators, it's to do with unreasonable cuts to police resources and personnel, and cuts to youth services, support services, education etc.

Bordeauxclaret wrote:What exactly should Khan be doing about this?

I see him blamed quite a bit. What should he be doing that he isn’t doing or that others have done previously?

Stop and search by the police was stopped under his leadership i think.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:I'll expand my answer for you, it's probably easier...

Immigration - I'm referring to the undesirable types, they don't **** about when it comes to crime, dealing with people who cross them and getting youngsters involved etc.
As for jobs, the youngsters don't want to work in certain places, but the immigrants are more than happy to fill jobs at places like coffee shops, fast food joints and care work.

That's what I meant, I just couldn't be arsed going the long way round.

Not sure how your 2nd point is relevant to knife crime, and with regards to your first point, I feel sure that there are plenty of UK born Londoners who come into that bracket

If anybody has time they should watch this. Akala a rapper/poet has several interviews regards this issue and offers a fantastic viewpoint on the issue. Below is one of the shorter interviews he has done on it.

Seen him on many topics and he is so eloquent and always lets others have their view. Why people like him arent running for governement are beyond me. He is one of many voices at present that really does speak sense.

Also crazy fact.....his sister is Miss Dynamite

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otto1959 wrote:Stop and search by the police was stopped under his leadership i think.

Stop and search was never ‘stopped’, it’s a Pace power.

About 5 years ago, due to pressure from Central Government and the Mayor’s Office, officers were being told to reduce their stop & search.

Now, 5 years on, and only very recently, officers have been told to increase their stop & search.

Politics and Policing don’t mix. Just let officers get on with the job.

Why is it the same 6 or 7 posters always appear on threads involving other races?

That’s a rhetorical question by the way.

Another of Akala on the subject. How he put up with Piers Morgans constant interruptions amazes me

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The best way to combat all of this is to not talk about it. And to label anyone who does as racist/nazi/Hitler etc

Let me ask this question and please honest answers.....has anyone on here ever partaken in illegal drugs (even just once as a laugh), bought snide gear off the guy in the pub. Because if you have you are part of the problem. I have and as I have grown up I have realised how much damage me buying a gram actually does. I would say most people moaning about the drugs problem which is linked with knife crime have played their part in this problem

Damo wrote:The best way to combat all of this is to not talk about it. And to label anyone who does as racist/nazi/Hitler etc

I wonder if Damo's been holding on to that line for a while and, when realising that no-one is suggesting not talking about it, has just decided sod it?

AndrewJB wrote:This is how austerity is a failed policy. Youth centres, and Surestart cost peanuts compared to processing a young person through the justice system, or providing life saving trauma care under the NHS. The government saved tens of millions, but it's cost them hundreds of millions.

You are of course correct Andrew, there's one thing however that costs less than all of the things you listed, that is proper parenting. Personal responsibility is a learned behaviour and costs nothing to instil, manners and respect are free too.