UK arms sales to Saudi Arabia unlawful

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UK arms sales to Saudi Arabia unlawful

Post by tiger76 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:08 am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48704596

How on earth the Conservatives can claim to pursue an ethical foreign policy and yet still supply the Saudi regime with weapons is baffling.

Especially given the situation in Yemen.

Meanwhile across the pond the Senate has spoken,and it's not good news for Donald.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48709815

However Trump being Trump he'll no doubt override these votes.

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Re: UK arms sales to Saudi Arabia unlawful

Post by Imploding Turtle » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:29 am

It's not just been the Tories, but currently it is, and it's a ******* joke. Just like this country's so-called principles.

We have absolutely no moral high ground any more. Our most important ally is running concentration camps and we've not said a word. Our own tribunal this week concluded that China is murdering its prisoners in order to harvest their organs and not only did it not make it into onto the BBC's China section of the Asia section of the World section of the BBC News site, it's nowhere on the BBC site at all. This is China we're talking about, another country running concentration camps, only they're more down the road than the US in that they have something like 2 million.

This is what we've become, and what our grand parents fought for Britain to become. A weak as **** country with no moral core. The only thing that's important is money. We'll tolerate concentration camps when our allies are doing it, and even when countries are not our allies but are economically beneficial to us. And we'll arm a country with weapons for them to further brutalise their own people and the people of their enemies even though they are everything we claim to oppose - a fundamentalist Islamic nation run by a dictator that we will allow to literally get away with murder because they are economically beneficial to us.

What a great ******* way to honour those who died "protecting freedom". We wasted their deaths. Remember that when you're remembering them.
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Re: UK arms sales to Saudi Arabia unlawful

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:31 am

. Does the coalition’s military intervention constitute a lawful use of force?

Assuming President Hadi retains government authority to request the intervention, his consent precludes a violation of the prohibition of the use of force enshrined in Article 2(4) of the United Nations Charter
Whilst I think what the Saudi's are doing is abhorrent, until the UN declares the 'war' illegal etc, the UK government can, and will, continue to hide behind the Charter.

Well done to the courts and protesters for getting the granting of new sales licences stopped though and the current ones reviewed.

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Re: UK arms sales to Saudi Arabia unlawful

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:06 am

been at it forever, every government for decades. Bin Laden bought his private aircraft at Chester !

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Re: UK arms sales to Saudi Arabia unlawful

Post by Hipper » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:37 am

I think this is a question not of legality but of Great Britain plc. This article in The Guardian explains a lot of the story:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... deadly-war" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ultimately do you keep jobs in the defence industry that not only employs UK residents but allows us to have a credible home made defence, or do you have strict morals and sleep soundly but poorly?

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