Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

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Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

Post by Lisbonclaret » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:37 am

Got to be something simple but why?
Even if you take the second letters from Athletic it still leaves Arse and Accy above the other two
alphabet wise.
Somebody explain WWHHHHYYYYY.

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Re: Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:37 am

AFC Bournemouth

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Re: Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

Post by jtv » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:38 am

AFC Bournemouth?

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Re: Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

Post by jtv » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:41 am

Snap cotc :)

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Re: Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

Post by Falcon » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:50 am

AFC is still behind Accrington in the alphabet though?

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Re: Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:54 am

Not if AFC is considered as 3 single separate letters. A single A comes before anything. It would be like FC United coming before Falkirk

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Re: Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

Post by Lisbonclaret » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:31 am

But it´s not a single letter though, it´s part of Athletic surley?

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Re: Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

Post by theroyaldyche » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:46 am

A.f.c thsts why

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Re: Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

Post by Lisbonclaret » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:50 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:A.f.c thsts why
Not really an explanation is it? Accrington

Does anybody sensible have a clear idea of why the football authorities dictate that this should be so?

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Re: Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

Post by bfcjg » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:58 pm

Tennis courts ? :D

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Re: Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

Post by Foulthrow » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:01 pm

No football season hitting hard here. What an odd thing to be arsed about.
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Re: Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:05 pm

Lisbonclaret wrote:Not really an explanation is it? Accrington

Does anybody sensible have a clear idea of why the football authorities dictate that this should be so?
But that is the explanation

AFC stands for "Association Football Club" but the "official names" of the teams are AFC Bournemouth & AFC Wimbledon.
As each letter is pronounced individually then the first "word" of their names is A, and so at top of list

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Re: Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:21 pm

Not sure whether either of them are Association or Athletic but Bournemouth are considered ahead of Arsenal alphabetically by the FA, which assumes the conside AFC to be a word, although the Premier League and most media sources ignore the AFC and place them appropriately.

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Re: Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

Post by GordonvaleClaret » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:23 pm

It's all in the ASCII,

http://www.asciitable.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

but not the EBCDIC

http://www.astrodigital.org/digital/ebcdic.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

Post by Spike » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:34 pm

Ballmouth

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Re: Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

Post by theroyaldyche » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:35 pm

Lisbonclaret wrote:Not really an explanation is it? Accrington

Does anybody sensible have a clear idea of why the football authorities dictate that this should be so?
What school did you go to?
A the letter comes before a word starting with A in this scenario
A.F.C therefore comes before Accy

Get some rest

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Re: Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

Post by Lisbonclaret » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:47 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:What school did you go to?
A the letter comes before a word starting with A in this scenario
A.F.C therefore comes before Accy

Get some rest
Think you have spelt the last part of your name wrong matey. The A in AFC is an abbreviation not a stand alone A.

Thanks Tony, although I fail to see how AFC can in any language be termed a word.

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Re: Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:21 pm

Lisbonclaret wrote:Think you have spelt the last part of your name wrong matey. The A in AFC is an abbreviation not a stand alone A.

Thanks Tony, although I fail to see how AFC can in any language be termed a word.
Totally agree. Was done by Bournemouth in the 1970s simply because they wanted to be first in alphabetical order. I always refer to these clubs as Bournemouth & Wimbledon just like I don’t list us all the time as Burnley FC or, for example, Sunderland as Sunderland AFC.

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Re: Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

Post by Selby Claret » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:10 pm

Lisbonclaret wrote: The A in AFC is an abbreviation not a stand alone A.
Convention states that:
A.F.C. Bournemouth comes before Accrington because 'A.' or 'A(gap)' trumps 'Ac'
Similarly, for example, 'Horse Chestnut' is alphabetically before 'Horsebox' because of the 'gap'
It's just English.....!

Whether or not you consider a prefixed 'AFC' should be ignored much like the 'FC' after Burnley, is another topic entirely!

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Re: Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:13 pm

[quote="Selby Claret]Similarly, for example, 'Horse Chestnut' is alphabetically before 'Horsebox' because of the 'gap'
It's just English.....![/quote]

Yet Portsmouth is listed ahead of Port Vale.

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Re: Bournemoth above Arsenal and Wimbledon above Accrington

Post by Selby Claret » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:22 pm

ClaretTony wrote:[quote="Selby Claret]Similarly, for example, 'Horse Chestnut' is alphabetically before 'Horsebox' because of the 'gap'
It's just English.....!
Yet Portsmouth is listed ahead of Port Vale.[/quote][/quote]

Well now we are just entering the realms of inconsistency - which I can't try and explain away! But they "should" be the other way around. At least they're not in the same division!

The BBC is showing AFC Bournemouth after Arsenal and Aston Villa (and before Brighton) which suggests they are ignoring the 'AFC' - but then have Wimbledon listed first above Accy in League One......?! Go figure

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