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Historical wildcard ...

Postby bfccrazy » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:32 pm

which player have you seen play for Burnley who didn’t seem to fit into our side or was a marmite player - but you’d love to see in the side now.

For me it’d be Jean Louis Valois.
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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby 4:20 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:38 pm

Patrick Bamford, just so he could relive the misery all over again.
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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby Lord Beamish » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:22 pm

Paul Smith. Came in under Heath, but stagnated under Waddle. I don’t think that Ternent’s Managerial style brought the best out of him.
He was so talented. Such a great left foot. I’d have loved for Dyche to work on him. He could’ve made him a top player.
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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby elwaclaret » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:26 pm

I would say Phil Malley... but not sure he’d last to kick off
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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby bfccrazy » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:49 pm

Another for me would be Djemba Djemba - always seemed to be a slight step ahead of those around him but would do a great job now I think.

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby willsclarets » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:52 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:Paul Smith. Came in under Heath, but stagnated under Waddle. I don’t think that Ternent’s Managerial style brought the best out of him.
He was so talented. Such a great left foot. I’d have loved for Dyche to work on him. He could’ve made him a top player.


He did have a lovely left foot, but I think even at Waddle's age he would've done Smith for pace. The lad moved like he was soaked through.

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby Devils_Advocate » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:53 pm

Tony Philiskirk. Wasn't much good but the way we lump it up front nowadays he could definitely do a job for us Peter Crouch style

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby Lord Beamish » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:03 pm

willsclarets wrote:He did have a lovely left foot, but I think even at Waddle's age he would've done Smith for pace. The lad moved like he was soaked through.

I certainly remember him sprinting through the Watford defence on a Tuesday night at Vicarage Road to score his first goal for us(a 2 apiece draw). Gifton Noel-Williams scored for them, that night. He was slow, by the time he came to us.

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby ClaretTony » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:04 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:Paul Smith. Came in under Heath, but stagnated under Waddle. I don’t think that Ternent’s Managerial style brought the best out of him.
He was so talented. Such a great left foot. I’d have loved for Dyche to work on him. He could’ve made him a top player.


Paul Smith had chronic knee problems which seriously affected him. Superb left foot, pace, great crosser of a ball but sadly just not fit enough.

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby Devils_Advocate » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:07 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:I certainly remember him sprinting through the Watford defence on a Tuesday night at Vicarage Road to score his first goal for us(a 2 apiece draw). Gifton Noel-Williams scored for them, that night. He was slow, by the time he came to us.

Used to play on Ivy Bank tennis courts as well and he looked even better on there. When we had that class spell under Ward (Heath) he looked the business along with a few other young players

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby Lord Beamish » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:07 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Paul Smith had chronic knee problems which seriously affected him. Superb left foot, pace, great crosser of a ball but sadly just not fit enough.

Didn’t he once injure himself falling down a grate in his back yard?

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby claptrappers_union » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:08 pm

Alan Moore, was a brilliant signing - decent player but injured and never got going in his time here.
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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby Lord Beamish » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:10 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:Alan Moore, was a brilliant signing - decent player but injured and never got going in his time here.

Really classy player. A World Beater, on his day; looked like he’d been drinking Wife-Beater when off it.

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby claptrappers_union » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:17 pm

bfccrazy wrote:For me it’d be Jean Louis Valois.


Jean-Louis Valois was a big game player. Performed well in cup games and when we were on tele. He had flair - but nothing much else. Scored some good goals though
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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby tim_noone » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:21 pm

elwaclaret wrote:I would say Phil Malley... but not sure he’d last to kick off

My Choice also....good bloke.

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby ClaretTony » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:25 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:Didn’t he once injure himself falling down a grate in his back yard?


He did and was quite a serious one from recollection. Played League One football after leaving us at Hartlepool & Sheffield Wednesday and then played non league football for a number of years.

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby Lord Beamish » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:32 pm

ClaretTony wrote:He did and was quite a serious one from recollection. Played League One football after leaving us at Hartlepool & Sheffield Wednesday and then played non league football for a number of years.

I knew I hadn’t just dreamt that!

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby duncandisorderly » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:37 pm

I reckon with the proper tutelage Kyle Lafferty would have been some player.
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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby DCWat » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:38 pm

We most surely be able to find better! Smith was bang average at our average level at the time, as for Valois! They could though, both say that they were at playing a game that they were able to play - Phil Malley on the other hand!!

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby Damo » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:39 pm

Keith Treacy.
Everyone who played the game reckoned he had everything needed to make it at the highest level..
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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby duncandisorderly » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:40 pm

Paul Weller was **** hot for a good few months. Vaguely remember him being linked with West Ham, I think?

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby DCWat » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:42 pm

Damo wrote:Keith Treacy.
Everyone who played the game reckoned he had everything needed to make it at the highest level..


Everyone?

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby ClaretCliff » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:42 pm

ClaretTony wrote:He did and was quite a serious one from recollection. Played League One football after leaving us at Hartlepool & Sheffield Wednesday and then played non league football for a number of years.


I remember that injury. sounds funny but as CT says it was quite serious. I also seem to remember he had a long throw on him.

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby Damo » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:44 pm

DCWat wrote:Everyone?

Yes. Every single person who ever kicked a ball
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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby DCWat » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:44 pm

Damo wrote:Yes. Every single person who ever kicked a ball


******** :)
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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby duncandisorderly » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:45 pm

ClaretCliff wrote:I remember that injury. sounds funny but as CT says it was quite serious. I also seem to remember he had a long throw on him.


Are you not mixing the long throw guy up with Matty O'Neill? Or am I?

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby ClaretTony » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:52 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:Are you not mixing the long throw guy up with Matty O'Neill? Or am I?


Matty had a hell of a long throw but we’ve a lad in the u23s now who can throw it further

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby ClaretTony » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:58 pm

Found this on Paul Smith.



Clarets star Paul Smith yesterday took his first steps along another comeback road as he made a successful return to training following the freak shin injury he sustained last month.

The luckless winger had to curtail his loan spell at Oldham after falling down an unlit manhole and receiving a gash which required a dozen stitches.

However, he was back with the Clarets first-team squad yesterday and could be in contention for a run-out in the reserves at Port Vale tomorrow night.

"We'll see, although it might be a bit early. We don't want to rush it because it's been a nasty injury. I'm pleased to see him back. He's worked hard to get fit," said Ternent.

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:02 am

Dimi Papadopoulos. Potential when he signed, scored the odd decent goal (Huddersfield, stoke and Ipswich from memory) but rarely given a chance despite being young and exciting.

Went on to have a pretty good career especially in Greece - euro 2004 winner and plenty of goals for Panathainaikos. Three times greek player of the year and titles in a couple of countries. His career went better than Burnleys did in the main (when he signed to his peak) but would have been good to see how he wouldve done under a manager who fancied him here.

In fact believe it or not he is still only the same age as Peter Crouch. Sign him on!
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Postby ClaretTony » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:07 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Dimi Papadopoulos. Potential when he signed, scored the odd decent goal (Huddersfield, stoke and Ipswich from memory) but rarely given a chance despite being young and exciting.

Went on to have a pretty good career especially in Greece - euro 2004 winner and plenty of goals for Panathainaikos. Three times greek player of the year and titles in a couple of countries. His career went better than Burnleys did in the main (when he signed to his peak) but would have been good to see how he wouldve done under a manager who fancied him here.

In fact believe it or not he is still only the same age as Peter Crouch. Sign him on!


We signed Papadopoulous in the same summer as we tried to sign Crouch.

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:24 am

ClaretTony wrote:We signed Papadopoulous in the same summer as we tried to sign Crouch.

Still got a year or two left then :D

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby Quickenthetempo » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:37 am

Andy Gray would be very useful to this side.
Someone who could hold the ball up really well and play with his back to goal.
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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby bfccrazy » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:43 am

claptrappers_union wrote:Jean-Louis Valois was a big game player. Performed well in cup games and when we were on tele. He had flair - but nothing much else. Scored some good goals though


Some of the balls he would ping about effortlessly would be a dream come true for how we play now. A flair player who loved to pop up in games on the telly but with some Dyche drive and the players we have around him I think he would have been class.

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby claptrappers_union » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:28 am

bfccrazy wrote:Some of the balls he would ping about effortlessly would be a dream come true for how we play now. A flair player who loved to pop up in games on the telly but with some Dyche drive and the players we have around him I think he would have been class.


I disagree, he had a bit of flare with a fancy name and that’s why Burnley fans loved him. He couldn’t defend, he couldn’t pass, his final ball was mostly poor. He played for himself and that’s it. He was anonymous in most games.

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby Lord Beamish » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:41 am

claptrappers_union wrote:I disagree, he had a bit of flare with a fancy name and that’s why Burnley fans loved him. He couldn’t defend, he couldn’t pass, his final ball was mostly poor. He played for himself and that’s it. He was anonymous in most games.

He played in flares? That’s some Gallic Flair, right there.

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Postby 4:20 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:59 am

Lord Beamish wrote:He played in flares? That’s some Gallic Flair, right there.


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Postby Funkydrummer » Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:17 am

claptrappers_union wrote:I disagree, he had a bit of flare with a fancy name and that’s why Burnley fans loved him. He couldn’t defend, he couldn’t pass, his final ball was mostly poor. He played for himself and that’s it. He was anonymous in most games.


Who was ?
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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby Funkydrummer » Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:19 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:Andy Gray would be very useful to this side.
Someone who could hold the ball up really well and play with his back to goal.


Spot on G, spot on. Love to see him in this team.
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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby tim_noone » Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:30 am

duncandisorderly wrote:Paul Weller was **** hot for a good few months. Vaguely remember him being linked with West Ham, I think?

Arsenal? He was linked with a bigger club though.

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby tim_noone » Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:33 am

duncandisorderly wrote:I reckon with the proper tutelage Kyle Lafferty would have been some player.

Spot on he was a very good player at such a youngish age for us...lacked guidance But he's had a decent career.

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Postby elwaclaret » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:37 am

tim_noone wrote:Arsenal? He was linked with a bigger club though.


Had a week or two on trial at WHU from memory.
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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby Lancasterclaret » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:42 am

Kevin McDonald might well have improved a lot earlier with SD running things
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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby elwaclaret » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:58 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Kevin McDonald might well have improved a lot earlier with SD running things


I think it is more likely SD would have immediately shown him the door... I’ll disciplined, rebellious and a little too fond of the hop, I certainly remember being among the issues Burnley had with him.

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby Goobs » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:45 pm

Marco Gentile. Once described by Ruud Gullit (I think) as the best Dutch defender to never win a cap (or something along those lines).
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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby djemba-djemba » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:39 pm

Djemba-Djemba

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Postby tim_noone » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:44 pm

Darikwa

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Postby Jeremy_Bentham » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:46 pm

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Postby KeighleyClaret » Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:36 pm

King Arthur

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Postby Burnleyareback2 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:59 pm

Mark Monington

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Re: Historical wildcard ...

Postby superdimitri » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:55 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Dimi Papadopoulos. Potential when he signed, scored the odd decent goal (Huddersfield, stoke and Ipswich from memory) but rarely given a chance despite being young and exciting.

Went on to have a pretty good career especially in Greece - euro 2004 winner and plenty of goals for Panathainaikos. Three times greek player of the year and titles in a couple of countries. His career went better than Burnleys did in the main (when he signed to his peak) but would have been good to see how he wouldve done under a manager who fancied him here.

In fact believe it or not he is still only the same age as Peter Crouch. Sign him on!

He was about 15 years ahead of the curve with diving too. Would fit into Dyche"s none of our players dive.. honest mantra !

Still, he clearly is one that got away ;)
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