Rafa Goes

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:38 pm

Good news for us this morning, Rafa Benitez has left Newcastle United.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:41 pm

SD heavily fancied by the bookies....

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:43 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:SD heavily fancied by the bookies....

As always

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:44 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:SD heavily fancied by the bookies....

If they offer him that gig...he's gone.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:45 pm

Thought it was just the usual summer noises from the North East... they annually have him threatening to leave then they stump up the money and he whines for 12 more months.

Could be a rough season for the magpies.
I don’t think SD will get anywhere near the job. Newcastle fans think they should be aiming to challenge top six playing a certain style. SD would be a fish out of water.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:45 pm

Let’s hope that if SD is linked, then Newcastle announce their new man (hopefully not SD) before we’re back for preseason. Can do without the speculation interrupting our plans.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:46 pm

Go Rafa Benitez
Go Rafa Benitez.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:46 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:SD heavily fancied by the bookies....

not as strange as the claim that Gary (buy all players through my agent) Monk being favourite was over the weekend. Though would Ashley buyout the rest of SD's contract so he could go?

Change came quicker than this article predicted

https://offthepitch.com/a/benitezs-futu ... t-48-hours" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:46 pm

I think the Geordies would be up in arms if they were linked with SD, they are massive don't you know ?

Fretters · Post by **Fretters** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:49 pm

Can we now assume the takeover is dead in the water? I couldn't see Rafa walking away from a huge transfer kitty.

PremierLeagueClass · Post by **PremierLeagueClass** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:50 pm

Realistically would this be a good move for Dyche?

He either have to work under Ashley, a toxic environment where he will be expected to work miracles on a shoestring.

Alternatively, they get taken over and he is quickly cast aside just like at Watford.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:50 pm

Fretters wrote:Can we now assume the takeover is dead in the water? I couldn't see Rafa walking away from a huge transfer kitty.

Normally, new owners want to bring in their own management team

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:50 pm

Huge for us this.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:53 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:Realistically would this be a good move for Dyche?

He either have to work under Ashley, a toxic environment where he will be expected to work miracles on a shoestring.

Alternatively, they get taken over and he is quickly cast aside just like at Watford.

He’d be strung up from day 1 for not being Rafa Benitez. Lose a couple of games and he’s toast.

4:20 · Post by **4:20** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:54 pm

Rafa to Chelsea maybe
Jose to Toon (if the takeover happens)

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:56 pm

Knowing Ashley he will look to appoint someone on the cheap, so that rules Dyche out.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:57 pm

4:20 wrote:Rafa to Chelsea maybe
Jose to Toon (if the takeover happens)

Isn’t Lampard going to Chelsea?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:59 pm

I must be missing something, as I don't see this as good news. Not until they have a new manager and it's not Dyche, anyway.

4:20 · Post by **4:20** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:01 pm

joey13 wrote:Isn’t Lampard going to Chelsea?

Just googled that, you're probably right, looks like it's going to be Frank Lampards Chelsea within a day or tow.

Rafa to holiday for a bit then.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:03 pm

4:20 wrote:Just googled that, you're probably right, looks like it's going to be Frank Lampards Chelsea within a day or tow.

Rafa to holiday for a bit then.

Sean Dyche's Newcastle doesn't sound right,and for that reason he won't get it!

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:03 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:Realistically would this be a good move for Dyche?

He either have to work under Ashley, a toxic environment where he will be expected to work miracles on a shoestring.

Alternatively, they get taken over and he is quickly cast aside just like at Watford.

This! It’d me a hugely risky move for Dyche with the uncertainty around the takeover.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:07 pm

SGr wrote:Good news for us this morning, Rafa Benitez has left Newcastle United.

https://www.betting-directory.com/footb ... r-odds.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Sean not mentioned here but....

They have Coyle at 50-1

simonclaret · Post by **simonclaret** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:08 pm

Wherever SD goes after us will be 'risky', he would back himself for any challenge that comes his way. For that reason I wouldn't be surprised to see him accept the job if offered.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:09 pm

Not sure Dyche would do a quick turn around. Lose six games on the spin somewhere like that and he’d be toast.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:09 pm

Praying Monk gets the gig. Only two other relegation places to fill out of Norwich, Sheff U & Villa.

4:20 · Post by **4:20** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:15 pm

I could see Chris Houghton in the role, got an inkling it could be him.
honestly can't see Dyche going up there at this present time, would be very surprised if he did.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:17 pm

4:20 wrote:I could see Chris Houghton in the role

I'm not surprised, he's already been in it.

claret10 · Post by **claret10** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:18 pm

4:20 wrote:I could see Chris Houghton in the role, got an inkling it could be him.
honestly can't see Dyche going up there at this present time, would be very surprised if he did.

Surely he isn't stupid enough to go back there after the way the treated him first time round

Spike · Post by **Spike** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:22 pm

Ha Ha never forgiven them for that Semi-final defeat

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:27 pm

SD wouldn't go to Newcastle, and Newcastle wouldn't go for Dyche.

But great news for us Rafa has left, we might just out wit them now.

4:20 · Post by **4:20** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:28 pm

claret10 wrote:Surely he isn't stupid enough to go back there after the way the treated him first time round

I completely forgot he'd ever been there. In my mind I envisioned him on the touchline, shouting orders onto the pitch against the St James Park backdrop. Now I realise this thought was actually a memory.
I'm not having a good time on this thread.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:44 pm

If Dyche really does want to replicate Allardyce's career, this is a logical move.

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:50 pm

Dyche doesn't seem a great fit for Newcastle if that fat #### Ashley is still there. Ashley has had enough of managers that don't toe the line for a little while, so he's likely to install a bit of a "yes-man" for a bit.

Hughton was ousted by Ashley, so that doesn't seem likely. Even Fat-boy must have worked out that Pardew is next to useless (although if uselessness is a league table, then Kinnear, Ardiles and John Carver are dead certs for relegation, and Pardew will have to fight it out with Souness, Dalglish, Fat Sam and MacLaren for next worst).

Lee Bowyer would be free, and that'll go a long way with Ashley, but If he really wants to p#ss the Geordies off then his love puppet Dennis Wise would be a decent outside bet, with Shola Ameobi as caretaker manager in the meantime.

This:-

"He’d be strung up from day 1 for not being Rafa Benitez. Lose a couple of games and he’s toast."

is just wrong. They'd probably like Dyche quite a lot. He's not Rafa - but he's also not Ashley, Wise, Michael Owen, Pardew (etc. etc. see above, nearly all of whom are on the list because they are mates or closet excusists for Ashley and the way that he runs the club.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:59 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:SD heavily fancied by the bookies....

Which ones? Paddy Power have him at 20/1.

If their Arab takeover is happening, no way will they go for a manager like Dyche - they’ll want a “Name”. If it isn’t, Dyche isn’t daft enough to get into bed with Ashley.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:07 pm

No panic on Dyche. A screenshot of Mike Sshleys phone has been revealed...

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:15 pm

4:20 wrote:Rafa to Chelsea maybe
Jose to Toon (if the takeover happens)

he did say the other day he wants an 'interesting' project

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:27 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Sean Dyche's Newcastle doesn't sound right,and for that reason he won't get it!

Benitez's Burnley!

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:06 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:SD heavily fancied by the bookies....

Not while Mike Ashley is there. Many fans hugely disappointed Rafa has gone and Ashley remains.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:15 pm

Reading reports that Benitez is linked with a Chinese club.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:46 pm

Mourinho is clear favourite

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:47 pm

Chester Perry wrote:not as strange as the claim that Gary (buy all players through my agent) Monk being favourite was over the weekend. Though would Ashley buyout the rest of SD's contract so he could go?

Change came quicker than this article predicted

https://offthepitch.com/a/benitezs-futu ... t-48-hours" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If Sean Dyche left I would have Rafa Benitez here in a shot

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:58 pm

mkmel wrote:If Sean Dyche left I would have Rafa Benitez here in a shot

Have you seen Benitez’ face leaving the training ground or where ever it was? He might as well be popping the champagne bottles.

He’s off to China and all its riches, big time.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:19 pm

mkmel wrote:If Sean Dyche left I would have Rafa Benitez here in a shot

You might but the club wouldn’t given how much he would cost us

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:27 pm

If this was Villa, Southampton, Wolves, West Ham etc etc I might be worried

But as this is Newcastle I am not worried.

Dyche isn't an idiot and knows the revolving door policy at Newcastle would see him at job club before XMAS.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:29 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Mourinho is clear favourite

Surely that isn't happening whilst Ashley is at the helm?

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:32 pm

claretspice wrote:Surely that isn't happening whilst Ashley is at the helm?

Probably not but the Sheikh is having the fit and proper person test by the PL from all accounts.
I think it is just a matter of the PL asking how much money have you? Will you be prepared to spend loads of it? OK --yes ---you are a fit and proper person!

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:40 pm

Inchy wrote:If this was Villa, Southampton, Wolves, West Ham etc etc I might be worried

But as this is Newcastle I am not worried.

Dyche isn't an idiot and knows the revolving door policy at Newcastle would see him at job club before XMAS.

If you discount Carver's 6 month temporary stint Newcastle have only had 4 manager in the last 10 years which is quite good by todays standard and on a par with Burnley who have had 4 managers themselves in that time period

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:42 pm

claretspice wrote:Surely that isn't happening whilst Ashley is at the helm?

Can’t think why anyone would want to go in with him in charge but someone will. Avram Grant’s odds are shortening.

rob63 · Post by **rob63** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:44 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Mourinho is clear favourite

I hope so - without the takeover........ what could possibly go right?

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:15 pm

Jose has mentioned being interested in the project in the event of a takeover, but I’ve got to ask how likely is that looking given Benitez has walked?