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Spain v USA

Post by ElectroClaret » Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:11 pm

Great start, 1-1 already.

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Re: Spain v USA

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:17 pm

Surprisingly a decent game so far. USA should be 2-1 up after an absolute peach of a ball through.

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Re: Spain v USA

Post by ElectroClaret » Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:20 pm

Yanks looking like scoring with every attack.

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Re: Spain v USA

Post by aggi » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:34 pm

If they were going to VAR for that penalty why not do it straight away rather than lining everyone up and then deciding to review. VAR has been a farce in this tournament.

Personally I think it was soft but those are the penalties that get given nowadays.

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Re: Spain v USA

Post by ElectroClaret » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:35 pm

Peno scored, 2-1 USA

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Re: Spain v USA

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:36 pm

I like VAR.

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Re: Spain v USA

Post by dougcollins » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:37 pm

To be frank, Frank, I don't.

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Re: Spain v USA

Post by Shore claret » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:11 pm

Ridiculous decision, never a penalty, I fear for football with var this year.

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Re: Spain v USA

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:28 pm

Shore claret wrote:Ridiculous decision, never a penalty, I fear for football with var this year.
Contact was certainly made.

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Re: Spain v USA

Post by FCBurnley » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:52 pm

Shore claret wrote:Ridiculous decision, never a penalty, I fear for football with var this year.
Me too and I was a strong pro VAR supporter.

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Re: Spain v USA

Post by FCBurnley » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:53 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Contact was certainly made.
So any contact whatsoever inside the area is a penalty ?

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Re: Spain v USA

Post by Billy Balfour » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:02 pm

I managed to catch the second half. USA have some talented players. Can't see anyone beating them unless they 'throw one in' so to speak. Also Spain have come a long way in a short space of time.

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Re: Spain v USA

Post by rob63 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:03 pm

FCBurnley wrote:So any contact whatsoever inside the area is a penalty ?
It is already in France & Germany!

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Re: Spain v USA

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:08 pm

I'm not watching the game...VAR is crap though.

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Re: Spain v USA

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:20 pm

FCBurnley wrote:So any contact whatsoever inside the area is a penalty ?
I thought we were talking about the penalty in this game for the USA to go 2-1 up?

If so, then the contact caused the USA player to go down so it was a penalty.

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Re: Spain v USA

Post by dougcollins » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:53 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I thought we were talking about the penalty in this game for the USA to go 2-1 up?

If so, then the contact caused the USA player to go down so it was a penalty.

This is exactly why the big 6 will get more pens next season. Be careful what you wish for.

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Re: Spain v USA

Post by Shore claret » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:15 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I thought we were talking about the penalty in this game for the USA to go 2-1 up?

If so, then the contact caused the USA player to go down so it was a penalty.
She barely touched her leg, if this is the future i don't want to watch

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Re: Spain v USA

Post by aggi » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:21 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I thought we were talking about the penalty in this game for the USA to go 2-1 up?

If so, then the contact caused the USA player to go down so it was a penalty.
The contact did cause the player to go down in that she felt the contact and decided to go down. I would be surprised if the actual contact was sufficient to physically cause her to go down though. It looked very minimal from the TV pictures.

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Re: Spain v USA

Post by EarbyClaret » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:30 pm

You have to hope that the use/application of VAR will be better with the standard of officiating in the PL.

In the WWC I'd say it's the officiating rather than VAR that's been the problem. Either referees have been told to refer everything regardless of how obvious (handball in the Canada v Sweden game tonight) or they are using it as protection against taking personal responsibility for any contentious decision.

I have some sympathy for the referee in England's match yesterday in that I've never seen a reaction like Cameroon's in my (admittedly limited) viewing of the women's game - but her failure to deal with their refusal to re-start after England's second was the root cause of the problem - the key decisions in that game were called correctly as a result of VAR - you can only assume the England penalty and the red-card tackle on Houghton were side-stepped to try and protect the carefully manufactured perception of the women's game from further controversy.

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