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ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:59 pm

Voting now underway for two wide players in team of last ten years

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by ksrclaret » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:03 pm

Scott Arfield and Wade Elliott for me.

Shame they couldn't have played together, on opposite wings.

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:04 pm

Think this one might be a landslide for Elliott and Arfield!
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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by burnley007 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:07 pm

They are clearly the 2 that have had the biggest impact, whether they are the BEST 2 wingers we've had is another question...
(But they got my vote too!)
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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by ksrclaret » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:11 pm

burnley007 wrote:They are clearly the 2 that have had the biggest impact, whether they are the BEST 2 wingers we've had is another question...
(But they got my vote too!)
Often wingers are hugely talented footballers, but suffer from inconsistency.

Interesting that the two here probably didn't have as much natural flair as some of the others, but because they were able to demonstrate consistency and genuine teamwork, they are streets ahead.

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by Local cricketer » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:12 pm

Fernando Guerrreo

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by AndyClaret » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:19 pm

Arfield and Elliott, no contest.

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Post by thelaughingclaret » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:19 pm

No Dane Richards?
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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by BOYSIE31 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:40 pm

Arfield and jbg

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by jedi_master » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:45 pm

Elliott and Arfield, not even close.

The rest are either no good, inconsistent at best or very injury prone, or all of those.

Wade and Scott never got injured, to my recollection. Always available, always put a shift in, scored crucial goals - and both free transfers. I would trade every winger we currently own bar McNeil for either of them back at Burnley.

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by MACCA » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:51 pm

Eagles was a class act on his day, and a match winner. Certainly the most exciting to watch out of Arfield, Wade and Eagles, but cant not vote for my favourite ( Arfield ) and Wade for the memories.

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:51 pm

Whilst inclined to agree with most that being limited to 2, I would probably say Arfield and Elliot, imo it's not quite as cut and dried as some say because JBG has been an excellent signing and must warrant consideration and I was a fan Stanislas (I know not everyone was) and thought he was very talented and exciting out wide and I haven't been surprised to see him prosper elsewhere.

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:56 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:I was a fan Stanislas (I know not everyone was) and thought he was very talented and exciting out wide and I haven't been surprised to see him prosper elsewhere.
69 starts for Bournemouth in 5 years is hardly prospering. He played more regularly for us.

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by claretburns » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:58 pm

I know Wade will be near the top but should he really? Nothing against him, he was my favourite player when he played for us and who can forget that moment at Wembley but we're voting for the two wide players from the past 10 years, apart from a goal against Everton and the free kick at Hull, nothing else really stands out for Wade in this period, surely JGB or Boyd should be ahead of him in the time period we're voting on.

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by CaptJohn » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:01 pm

Wade Elliott no argument. But for the 2nd spot I've voted for Dwight McNeil as I've seen enough last season to think that we have a potential superstar in our ranks.

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:09 pm

I voted Elliott & Arfield given the contributions they have made over the past ten years. I didn't see any other contenders other than potentially JBG.

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:15 pm

ClaretTony wrote:69 starts for Bournemouth in 5 years is hardly prospering. He played more regularly for us.
I'm genuinely surprised at that stat as my perception was that up until this last season he'd played a lot more than that for them and had been well up to PL standard and scored some important goals. I was aware that he hadn't featured as much recently.

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:20 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:I'm genuinely surprised at that stat as my perception was that up until this last season he'd played a lot more than that for them and had been well up to PL standard and scored some important goals. I was aware that he hadn't featured as much recently.
Must confess I thought he'd played a lot more than that. He signed for them in summer 2014 and his league starts have been:

2014/15 - 6 (Championship)
2015/16 - 17
2016/17 - 18
2017/18 - 17
2018/19 - 11

He's also made 28 sub appearances for them in the league.
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Post by tiger76 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:33 pm

Got to agree with Wade and Scotty,Wade's wonder strike at Wembley was worth so much to the club at the time,and Scotty was mr reliable,and also scored many important goals,

I'm surprised Brady has only played 27 times in 2 and a half seasons,i know he's had his injury woes,but wasn't aware his spell on the sidelines was so lengthy,it'll be hard too see a return to the first team anytime soon with young McNeil's impact.

On his day Chris Eagles was unstoppable,especially at Championship level,he scored some sublime goals,but often he would fade out of games or not deliver with his final ball,exciting yes but flattered to deceive.

Honourable mention for Boyd,he sacrificed his attacking instincts to perform a vital role in the team framework,was rarely injured and always give 100%,his winner against Man City will live long in the memory.

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:42 pm

Didn't Elliott play more centrally in a lot of the games in this 10 year period?

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by mdd2 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:53 pm

No brainer again really for me Wade and Scotty by a distance

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:54 pm

In fact in my memory is correct then Elliott shouldn't even be an option in this vote.

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:58 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:In fact in my memory is correct then Elliott shouldn't even be an option in this vote.
Explained in the article. Only place you could put him in a 442 and the way he played he’d fit perfectly there today in that system.

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by taio » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:58 pm

Arfield and Elliott are the obvious choices. The only position that hasn't been nailed on is centre half.

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:08 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Explained in the article. Only place you could put him in a 442 and the way he played he’d fit perfectly there today in that system.
Just to get this clear for me. We aren't voting for players by what they did in this 10 year period in these positions?
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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:10 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Just to get this clear for me. We aren't voting for players by what they did in this 10 year period in these positions?
Yes. Last 10 years. Elliott couldn’t go in the centre in a 442, couldn’t be left out of the vote so went in the obvious position for him.

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by Foulthrow » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:17 pm

Can’t understand the lack of votes for JBG. I know he didn’t have the best season last year but apart from that he’s been outstanding, especially when you consider the step up he made coming into the premier league. Imagine if we’d had him in the Championship? For a long time he was our most consistent creative force.

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by Jakubs Tash » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:18 pm

Would Robbie Blake not be classed as a wide player during this 10 year period? Played wide left - even when we sometimes played 4-4-2. Don't recall Blake playing up front during this 10 year period.

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:20 pm

Well I can't vote for Elliott in a 'best wide player' over the last 10 years when he never (I think even Coyle had him playing inside) played there.

Prehistoric rigid formation to blame. :)

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:21 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Well I can't vote for Elliott in a 'best wide player' over the last 10 years when he never (I think even Coyle had him playing inside) played there.

Prehistoric rigid formation to blame. :)
Then don’t. It’s that simple.

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:22 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:Would Robbie Blake not be classed as a wide player during this 10 year period? Played wide left - even when we sometimes played 4-4-2. Don't recall Blake playing up front during this 10 year period.
Robbie is listed with the strikers.

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Post by bobinho » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:26 pm

Foulthrow wrote:Can’t understand the lack of votes for JBG. I know he didn’t have the best season last year but apart from that he’s been outstanding, especially when you consider the step up he made coming into the premier league. Imagine if we’d had him in the Championship? For a long time he was our most consistent creative force.
Currently third in the voting behind the obvious two front runners. No shame in that for JBG, currently one of my fave players.
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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:26 pm

Who have been our best wide midfielders in the last ten years?
Wade Elliott in the lead with 64%

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:28 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Wade Elliott in the lead with 64%

:lol:
It’s a vote, players had to be fit in and some might be in the positions you prefer. Shame that you can’t find anything better to do with your time to be honest that whine on about something so trivial. And I’ve also seen your latest pathetic Steven post.

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Post by jrgbfc » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:28 pm

For a consistent contribution over a number of years, simply has to be Elliot and Arfield without a doubt.
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Post by whentheballmoves » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:29 pm

I went for Arfield and JBG. Can't agree with Wade, in terms of quality, I'm afraid...

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Post by Goobs » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:39 pm

Guess it depends on what you base th vote on. If it is the most talented players then I suspect the team would look almost entirely different to if (as most seem to be doing) you base your vote on contribution over a prolonged period.

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Post by IanMcL » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:43 pm

Scott Arfield going the distance, as usual.

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Post by Swizzlestick » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:06 pm

Went for Arfield and JBG.

Love Wade but Gudmundsson’s quality won out.

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Post by tim_noone » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:23 pm

ClaretTony wrote:69 starts for Bournemouth in 5 years is hardly prospering. He played more regularly for us.
All the same stanislas was/is a good footballer. :D

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Post by Bin Ont Turf » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:24 pm

ClaretTony wrote:It’s a vote, players had to be fit in and some might be in the positions you prefer. Shame that you can’t find anything better to do with your time to be honest that whine on about something so trivial. And I’ve also seen your latest pathetic Steven post.
As you say, 'it's a vote', so I don't know why you have taken my posts to heart, it's not all about you.

It's not a serious vote. I get that now. A bit like the Fantasy football games where you pick players under certain restrictions, which are played.

I still find it incredible that Steven is on the 'Wall of Legends'. As you say though, it's a vote (was), so not your doing and nothing you need to get upset about.

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Post by jrgbfc » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:20 am

Elliott was a lovely footballer to watch, don't really understand some of these comments.

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by Falcon » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:55 am

Has to be Scotty Arf and Wade Elliott

I can't think of either of them without picturing a couple of iconic and important goals

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by Falcon » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:59 am

I'm already torn just contemplating the next vote. So many great strikers, all loved for different reasons, how am I going to narrow it down to just two!

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Post by Selby Claret » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:44 pm

Given that the Elliott Wembley goal was more than 10 years ago (i.e. not in the last 10 seasons), I fear that this vote will be skewed by ignorance of this.

Hence Arfield and JBG for me.

Given that the 4-4-2 formation is set for the poll, I would have included Elliott in the CM selections for this period and not as a 'winger'.

But that's just my opinion and I appreciate the opportunity to participate :)

PS I also concur as to the inclusion of Blake in the vote - not that he'd necessarily get mine, but that he should be in there (noted that he is with the strikers)

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Re: ARTICLE: Two wide players required for ten year team

Post by claret2018 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:58 pm

Elliott was up there with Blake for getting you off your seat in those days, so he's 1 of my choices.

I chose McNeil as my other, simply because he's the most exciting player I've seen for Burnley in years.

Was difficult to leave out Eagles though, I have very fond memories of watching him in that Coyle team

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Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:54 pm

Keith Treacy's family all voted then :D

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Post by Bosscat » Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:49 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Keith Treacy's family all voted then :D
When I was Locksmithing (before I sold up and retired) I used to work with a number of Agencies who provided work.
I was called out to an apartment at Brockhall Village, a certain Mr Treacy's then girlfriend had locked herself out of their apartment. It was about 2/3 years before we signed him....

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Post by Stayingup » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:36 pm

Bosscat wrote:When I was Locksmithing (before I sold up and retired) I used to work with a number of Agencies who provided work.
I was called out to an apartment at Brockhall Village, a certain Mr Treacy's then girlfriend had locked herself out of their apartment. It was about 2/3 years before we signed him....
It wasnt you who 'picked' the lock at Turf Moor recently was it? Apparently whoever it was stole tgree woiden seats. Wow.
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Post by Bosscat » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:44 pm

Stayingup wrote:It wasnt you who 'picked' the lock at Turf Moor recently was it? Apparently whoever it was stole tgree woiden seats. Wow.
Wtf are tgree woiden seats. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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