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Re: England vs Australia

Post by Foulthrow » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:45 pm

Another terrible shot.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:47 pm

Dire from Bairstow. Was hoping we’d be pushing towards 200 before we saw Buttler.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:52 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Dire from Bairstow. Was hoping we’d be pushing towards 200 before we saw Buttler.
We are Tony ---needing over 200 --was that not what you meant? :D
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Re: England vs Australia

Post by tiger76 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:39 pm

Good partnership from Stokes and Buttler,but they'll need to go on for a while yet,to give England a fighting chance.

113-4,7 an over required for 20 plus overs,not impossible,but one or both of these will have to be there till the end.

Stokes getting treatment hope it's not serious.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:40 pm

These 2 need to get the target under 90 and then one of them be there at the end

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by Steve1956 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:41 pm

We need a miracle ...again

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:43 pm

Buttler gone - all but over now

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by tiger76 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:46 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:These 2 need to get the target under 90 and then one of them be there at the end
Yep Moeen and Woakes are capable of a quick 20/30 if England can take this to the wire.

The only problem is both Starc and Cummins have 5 overs left apiece.

It's amazing what a period of sensible batting can do.

Take note Eoin Morgan.

Buttler just gone that might be game set and match to the Aussies i'm afraid.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by Vino blanco » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:47 pm

As someone said earlier, this team is not good enough under pressure.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by dpinsussex » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:00 pm

Stokes needs to go on the rampage now. Only chance we have

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by Ptangyangkipperbang » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:24 pm

Our slight hope as now gone

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:25 pm

Superb delivery from Starc and I thought we were just looking like making a game of it. He’s batted brilliantly in these last two games.
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Re: England vs Australia

Post by CleggHall » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:33 pm

When 3 of the top 6 batsmen fail, (Vince, Root,Morgan) you can't beat the Aussies. Sorry but we don't deserve to win this one and the wheels are coming off another World Cup. Disappointing but not the 1st time!

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:38 pm

Moeen gone - heading towards the last rites

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by Bertiebeehead » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:39 pm

World Cup favourites, give me ******* strength.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by Steve1956 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:48 pm

Bertiebeehead wrote:World Cup favourites, give me ******* strength.
Overrated and not in the same league as the Aussies or India.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:49 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Overrated and not in the same league as the Aussies or India.
We did beat the Aussies 5-0 a year ago

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by MACCA » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:50 pm

Been very disappointing when chasing and the pressure is on.
Theres quite a few struggling for form and some of the shot selections have been horrific.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by Steve1956 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:52 pm

ClaretTony wrote:We did beat the Aussies 5-0 a year ago
When it didn't really matter.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:53 pm

Steve1956 wrote:When it didn't really matter.
Oh it mattered. It always does against the Aussies.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by wembley94 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:01 pm

years of watching england cricket and football teams.don't know wether to laugh or cry.when it comes to propher competitions.maybe we should just let the girls play instead of the men

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:02 pm

The car has been started and driven off. All over. Lost by 64 runs.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by expoultryboy » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:04 pm

Missing Roy and even Hales at the top of the order . Strange being dropped for using a recreational drug but Gove / Johnson can stand for pm .

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:08 pm

Roy has been a miss.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by Dark Cloud » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:12 pm

Some very good bowling by the Aussies, plus some poor shots from England AND England not bowling well enough when things were in their favour during the first 45 minutes this morning. I know it wouldn't have been any easier for us than it was for them early on, but I thought Morgan should have batted first. A real danger we might be edged out of the semis now with 2 tough games to come!

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by burnley007 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:15 pm

A total embarrassment of a performance.
Vince and Ali should be sent back out onto the pitch to apologise for pretending to be cricketers.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by JohnMac » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:17 pm

expoultryboy wrote:Missing Roy and even Hales at the top of the order . Strange being dropped for using a recreational drug but Gove / Johnson can stand for pm .
Brilliant :lol:

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by Claret-On-A-T-Rex » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:32 pm

Bertiebeehead wrote:World Cup favourites, give me ******* strength.
In England, I doubt the rest of the world had bets on us. I'm pretty sure in Australia, Australia are the favourites.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by Cubanclaret » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:37 pm

Aussie in cricket are like Germany in football to England.
India have looked the strongest side so far to me and would probably be narrow favourites over Australia.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:38 pm

Cubanclaret wrote:Aussie in cricket are like Germany in football to England.
India have looked the strongest side so far to me and would probably be narrow favourites over Australia.
I’d put India as favourites from what I’ve seen

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:41 pm

No doubt it will be laughed off again by Morgan and Bayliss. "This is the way we play", we won't change our approach etc etc.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by FCBurnley » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:41 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I’d put India as favourites from what I’ve seen
Australia will do whatever is needed to win. Even reinstating convicted cheats conveniently in time for the World Cup. Totally outclassed England today

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:20 pm

Strange how sporting Summers are good or bad through all our sides.
After watching Toulon, Euro U21s, cricket, Froome, Thomas this is a bad one.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by timshorts » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:57 pm

You lot have still got the women's world Cup, although that's going nowhere unless they can find a different centre back partner for Houghton.

Bit sorry for Japan. They should never have beaten Scotland, but we're getting better game by game.

And we might sign someone at some point.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by tiger76 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:37 pm

Cubanclaret wrote:Aussie in cricket are like Germany in football to England.
India have looked the strongest side so far to me and would probably be narrow favourites over Australia.
I'd make India favourites,based on the action so far,Australia will always be a danger,and New Zealand can't be discounted.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by tiger76 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:42 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Superb delivery from Starc and I thought we were just looking like making a game of it. He’s batted brilliantly in these last two games.
He can hold his head high,even his dismissal was due to quality bowling,but he can't win games by himself.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by tiger76 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:50 pm

jrgbfc wrote:No doubt it will be laughed off again by Morgan and Bayliss. "This is the way we play", we won't change our approach etc etc.
I'm all for being positive,but there's a thin line between positivism and recklessness,3 of the top 4 where architects of their own downfall,only Root can say he got a good ball.

Will England learn from this experience,we'll find out on Sunday.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by MACCA » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:28 am

tiger76 wrote:I'd make India favourites,based on the action so far,Australia will always be a danger,and New Zealand can't be discounted.

So your tipping 30% of the field, which also just happens to be the best 3 teams?

Are you a bookie? ;)

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:09 am

India always looked the strongest for me due to their 2 spinners. Ours are a bit of a joke.

You may as well just play a batsmen instead of Ali for all he does either with bat, ball or in the field.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by kentonclaret » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:52 am

"No doubt it will be laughed off again by Morgan and Bayliss'

Following his dismissal to a dreadful shot, Eoin Morgan spent the remainder of the innings sitting alongside Paul Collingwood giggling and laughing his head off. This had obviously been picked up by Sky because the cameras kept going back to him on the balcony in hysterics.

You only have to compare the mindset of Eoin Morgan and Trevor Bayliss to that of Justin Langer and Ricky Ponting and it is no contest. Arrogance will only take you so far.
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Re: England vs Australia

Post by Papabendi » Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:03 am

I would echo what you are saying and Bayliss in particular comes across as very relaxed and jokey on the balcony regardless of the situation. I suppose that is the atmosphere they have tried to create, but I am afraid from the outside it does not come across very well at all.

On the Morgan dismissal, compare and contrast with the reaction and hunger Smith displayed at his dismissal.

It is hard to escape the fact that Bayliss has been an expensive mistake for England, particularly now it seems likely we will make no impact on this tournament - the centre piece we have been building for since 2015.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by tiger76 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:13 am

MACCA wrote:So your tipping 30% of the field, which also just happens to be the best 3 teams?

Are you a bookie? ;)
:) sadly no if i was i'd by a lot wealthier,the bookies will be happy this morning,as they're likely to have been deluged with bets on England prior to the tournament.

If i had to pick one i'd plump for India,Kohli might be a nightmare for umpires,hence this punishment.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/48736290

But he's a winner,Morgan's too nice to be a captain,i want somebody that's going to do their damnedest to win at any costs,within the laws of the game naturally.

Some good news for England the start's been delayed in the NZ-Pakistan game,crazy we're having to perform a rain dance,sums up England's plight.

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Re: England vs Australia

Post by jrgbfc » Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:45 pm

Papabendi wrote:I would echo what you are saying and Bayliss in particular comes across as very relaxed and jokey on the balcony regardless of the situation. I suppose that is the atmosphere they have tried to create, but I am afraid from the outside it does not come across very well at all.

On the Morgan dismissal, compare and contrast with the reaction and hunger Smith displayed at his dismissal.

It is hard to escape the fact that Bayliss has been an expensive mistake for England, particularly now it seems likely we will make no impact on this tournament - the centre piece we have been building for since 2015.


I'm sure he does but to me Bayliss comes across as though he couldn't care less. Just happy picking his no doubt huge salary up then sailing off into the sunset at the end of this summer. It's a total cop out to keep giving your wicket away when the going gets tough and then hiding behind the "positive cricket" mantra.

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