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Sean Dyche
I know it's just the gossip column, BBC website has it that Newcastle would have to stump up £10m compensation if they want our gaffa.
He's priceless to us, 10m would be no amount of compensation if we lost him.
He's priceless to us, 10m would be no amount of compensation if we lost him.
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He's currently 9th favourite with even Gerrard ahead of him.
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3 years salary.
Little or nothing we could do if he wants to leave.
Hopefully he would not want to work for someone like Mike Ashley and would want to avoid the pressure of pleasing 50,000 fans every week who think they should be in the top 6 despite giving their managers getting very little to spend for the last decade.
There is a reason Rafa decided to leave despite his stock being so high with the fans that he could do no wrong.
Little or nothing we could do if he wants to leave.
Hopefully he would not want to work for someone like Mike Ashley and would want to avoid the pressure of pleasing 50,000 fans every week who think they should be in the top 6 despite giving their managers getting very little to spend for the last decade.
There is a reason Rafa decided to leave despite his stock being so high with the fans that he could do no wrong.
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It's from the Daily MailNo Ney Never wrote:I know it's just the gossip column, BBC website has it that Newcastle would have to stump up £10m compensation if they want our gaffa.
He's priceless to us, 10m would be no amount of compensation if we lost him.
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Yes the reason being 12 million quid a year and zero pressure in China!TVC15 wrote:3 years salary.
Little or nothing we could do if he wants to leave.
Hopefully he would not want to work for someone like Mike Ashley and would want to avoid the pressure of pleasing 50,000 fans every week who think they should be in the top 6 despite giving their managers getting very little to spend for the last decade.
There is a reason Rafa decided to leave despite his stock being so high with the fans that he could do no wrong.
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Nothing we can do if he decides to leave.
And nothing we can do if he thinks a move to a club run by Mike Ashley is in his best interests.
And nothing we can do if he thinks a move to a club run by Mike Ashley is in his best interests.
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Is there any evidence of all these Newcastle fans that think they should be in the top 6 or are we just making things up to emphasise a point?TVC15 wrote:Hopefully he would not want to work for someone like Mike Ashley and would want to avoid the pressure of pleasing 50,000 fans every week who think they should be in the top 6 despite giving their managers getting very little to spend for the last decade.
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They've definitely got delusions of grandeur.Devils_Advocate wrote:Is there any evidence of all these Newcastle fans that think they should be in the top 6 or are we just making things up to emphasise a point?
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Yes I have loads of evidenceDevils_Advocate wrote:Is there any evidence of all these Newcastle fans that think they should be in the top 6 or are we just making things up to emphasise a point?
Box files full of written testimonies from tens of thousands of Geordies who are all saying that they firmly believe they should be a top six club - all signed and dated and everything.
Is that ok ?
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Yep possibly - but he’s been pretty honest and clear with Newcastle that he can’t carry on performing miracles with such a small transfer budget and he wanted the club to meet his own ambitions.Winstonswhite wrote:Yes the reason being 12 million quid a year and zero pressure in China!
I’m guessing that irrespective of whether he has a job lined up or not after several meetings with Ashley he didn’t want to spend another season waiting for the club to be taken over.
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I believe the same evidence exists from Leeds fansTVC15 wrote:Yes I have loads of evidence
Box files full of written testimonies from tens of thousands of Geordies who are all saying that they firmly believe they should be a top six club - all signed and dated and everything.
Is that ok ?
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You forgot the important bit TVC15 m8.....TVC15 wrote:Yes I have loads of evidence
Box files full of written testimonies from tens of thousands of Geordies who are all saying that they firmly believe they should be a top six club - all signed and dated and everything.
Is that ok ?
If you want people to believe you, the post should have ended "FACT" unless of course it isn't and you are lying (heaven forbid anyone would do that on here of course )
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I hear you big fella !Bosscat wrote:You forgot the important bit TVC15 m8.....
If you want people to believe you, the post should have ended "FACT" unless of course it isn't and you are lying (heaven forbid anyone would do that on here of course )
I mean it was a crazy of me to even suggest that the fans of a club like Newcastle have high expectations...I mean it’s not like they are much bigger than Carlisle or Hartlepool.
Fortunately for me though I had all that written evidence so i know i’m on solid ground.
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So you made it up thenTVC15 wrote:Yes I have loads of evidence
Box files full of written testimonies from tens of thousands of Geordies who are all saying that they firmly believe they should be a top six club - all signed and dated and everything.
Is that ok ?
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Made what up ?Devils_Advocate wrote:So you made it up then
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Not just Leeds fans m8....Sutton-Claret wrote:I believe the same evidence exists from Leeds fans
The following is from yesterdays Lancashire Blackburnegraph ... Burnley Forum
Blue John 26th June 7:30 pm
Rovers don't do cheating or spout rubbish. We deal with fact and it's true most Burnley fans deny our superior success and standing in the game.
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Newcastle fans think they should be top 6TVC15 wrote:Made what up ?
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That Daily Mail article is a work of genius. It neither suggests Dyche is interested in Newcastle, nor that Newcastle are interested in Dyche - it just says what the price tag would be if Newcastle wanted him.
You could replace "Newcastle" with "Chelsea" and the substance, and the truth of it, would be absolutely unchanged.
But in the process, the Mail have created a story - of a sort - from absolutely nothing, beyond a little bit of intel about Dyche's contract at Burnley.
You could replace "Newcastle" with "Chelsea" and the substance, and the truth of it, would be absolutely unchanged.
But in the process, the Mail have created a story - of a sort - from absolutely nothing, beyond a little bit of intel about Dyche's contract at Burnley.
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I agreeDevils_Advocate wrote:Newcastle fans think they should be top 6
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They do don’t they.Devils_Advocate wrote:Newcastle fans think they should be top 6
Glad you agree.
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No I was pointing out what you made up, do try and keep up.TVC15 wrote:They do don’t they.
Glad you agree.
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Sorry - what did I make up again ?Devils_Advocate wrote:No I was pointing out what you made up, do try and keep up.
(Mmmm - me try and keep up ! )
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I too agree with you DA, they certainly do.Devils_Advocate wrote:Newcastle fans think they should be top 6
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Tbh I think he made it upNo Ney Never wrote:I too agree with you DA, they certainly do.
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You made up that Newcastle fans think they should be in the top 6 despite giving their managers getting very little to spend for the last decade.TVC15 wrote:Sorry - what did I make up again ?
(Mmmm - me try and keep up ! )
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No I didn’tDevils_Advocate wrote:You made up that Newcastle fans think they should be in the top 6 despite giving their managers getting very little to spend for the last decade.
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Ok then im genuinely interested on how you arrive at the conclusion that Newcastle fans think they should be in the top 6 if its not something you've just made upTVC15 wrote:No I didn’t
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Good - i’m glad you are “genuinely interested” - for a minute there I thought you were just trying to be a clever tw-at.Devils_Advocate wrote:Ok then im genuinely interested on how you arrive at the conclusion that Newcastle fans think they should be in the top 6 if its not something you've just made up
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No I just get fed up with people trotting out made up cliched stuff about other clubs and fans and thought that was what you were doing. So anyhow back to my question?TVC15 wrote:Good - i’m glad you are “genuinely interested” - for a minute there I thought you were just trying to be a clever tw-at.
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I'm not sure if you're on another level here or you're being a massive hypocrite after failing to back up your recent comments about plenty of posters on here saying Wolves would struggle last season.Devils_Advocate wrote:No I just get fed up with people trotting out made up cliched stuff about other clubs and fans and thought that was what you were doing. So anyhow back to my question?
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Well spotted. As my opinions go against the grain a little I often get tediously questioned about them scrutinising every little detail and requesting proof and evidence when im just giving my viewpoint and perception on somethingTall Paul wrote:I'm not sure if you're on another level here or you're being a massive hypocrite after failing to back up your recent comments about plenty of posters on here saying Wolves would struggle last season.
TVC15 is one of the worst for being pedantic in this way when he thinks someone else is just making things up and coming out with hyperbole.
Thought i'd just do the same back but towards a more populist statement and maybe show how futile and boring it is
Anyhow back to the thread topic.
Dyche would jump at the chance to go and manage Newcastle and it would be a good career step forward. I could see his and Mike Ashley's pragmatic approach to not wasting money working well together
Cant see it happening though which is good news for us
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I get that he thinks he looks at things from outside the box, to air alternative scenarios... they are generally flawed. I don’t think it’s another level, just a wind up merchant.Tall Paul wrote:I'm not sure if you're on another level here or you're being a massive hypocrite after failing to back up your recent comments about plenty of posters on here saying Wolves would struggle last season.
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elwaclaret wrote:I get that he thinks he looks at things from outside the box, to air alternative scenarios... they are generally flawed. I don’t think it’s another level, just a wind up merchant.
Is the right answer
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I was being sarcastic when I said for a minute I thought you were being a tw-at.....I knew you were being one from your first post.Devils_Advocate wrote:No I just get fed up with people trotting out made up cliched stuff about other clubs and fans and thought that was what you were doing. So anyhow back to my question?
If you seriously want the answer (even though you already know it)....then of course I don’t think ALL Newcastle fans think they should be in the top 6. But like Leeds fans a number of them do like to point out how big a club they are...especially compared to the likes of us.
The point that was being made was that in my opinion Dyche going to Newcastle would face a new level of pressure and expectation from their fans - even with a scenario where Burnley and Newcastle had similar transfer budgets.
But guess you knew all that anyway
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I’ll plait sh1t if Dyche replaces Benitez as Newcastle Manager.
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Whilst we are posting a little more seriously my initial response was genuine to the extent that I think football fans are the same at all clubs relative to their position size and status and on here there is a real non supported view about different clubs and fans which I don't agree withTVC15 wrote:I was being sarcastic when I said for a minute I thought you were being a tw-at.....I knew you were being one from your first post.
If you seriously want the answer (even though you already know it)....then of course I don’t think ALL Newcastle fans think they should be in the top 6. But like Leeds fans a number of them do like to point out how big a club they are...especially compared to the likes of us.
The point that was being made was that in my opinion Dyche going to Newcastle would face a new level of pressure and expectation from their fans - even with a scenario where Burnley and Newcastle had similar transfer budgets.
But guess you knew all that anyway
I don't think Newcastle fans do especially think of themselves as something better than they are anymore than a lot of Burnley fans think we are something special in terms of fans and knowledge etc.
Your point that he would come under more pressure is a fair and good point but I would say that is because Newcastle are a bigger club who rightly have more expectation rather than just insinuating its because the fans are somewhat delusional about themselves.
Next time I express a genuine view which maybe isn't that popular you'll at least come to my defence when the clever tw-at's start posting to me like I did to you.
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Two things that I would point out that would stop this happening:-
(a) that Newcastle would want Dyche. They should do, I mean, if anyone is likely to sort out Newcastle it would be Lord Dyche of Doesnttakeanyshit.
(b) that Dyche would be mental enough to take the NUFC job. Unless, of course, he needs a pay off before having a nice, well-earned rest for a bit.
(a) that Newcastle would want Dyche. They should do, I mean, if anyone is likely to sort out Newcastle it would be Lord Dyche of Doesnttakeanyshit.
(b) that Dyche would be mental enough to take the NUFC job. Unless, of course, he needs a pay off before having a nice, well-earned rest for a bit.
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Its a typical filler story that basically says nowt, but implies things for the hard-of-thinking.claretspice wrote:That Daily Mail article is a work of genius. It neither suggests Dyche is interested in Newcastle, nor that Newcastle are interested in Dyche - it just says what the price tag would be if Newcastle wanted him.
You could replace "Newcastle" with "Chelsea" and the substance, and the truth of it, would be absolutely unchanged.
But in the process, the Mail have created a story - of a sort - from absolutely nothing, beyond a little bit of intel about Dyche's contract at Burnley.
Lot of it about at this quiet out of season time.
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IWhile I can't tell you how TVC arrived at that conclusion, I can tell you how I have.Devils_Advocate wrote:Ok then im genuinely interested on how you arrive at the conclusion that Newcastle fans think they should be in the top 6 if its not something you've just made up
I live and work in the North East among many NUFC season ticket holders. They firmly believe that because Ashley is a billionaire, he should be putting his hands in his pockets and 'investing' in the club. Given its size, they believe that they should be at least in the top 6. It's one of the main reasons why they protest so vociferously, they're frustrated at not competing at a level befitting such a big club.
They're resigned to the fact that they won't as long as Ashley owns the club, hence why they were creaming themselves when they thought a rich sheikh was going to buy it. The ability to compete with Liverpool and Man city were the cries.
They seem to have calmed down a bit lately as the realisation that it's quite possibly just another of Ashleys transfer window cons dawns upon them.
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the Geordies simply bored Rafa to death that's why he left.
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Patrick Vieira being muted as a possible appointment.
Bit left field but he's an ambitious manager,PL might appeal to him,now he's had a couple of years at Nice.
Bit left field but he's an ambitious manager,PL might appeal to him,now he's had a couple of years at Nice.
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This could be a good shout. I suspect most will keep their heads down for now and waiting for the future ownership to be clearer before tying their colours to NUFCtiger76 wrote:Patrick Vieira being muted as a possible appointment.
Bit left field but he's an ambitious manager,PL might appeal to him,now he's had a couple of years at Nice.
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Yes i suspect until the takeover is done and dusted the usual suspects will be wary about following in Rafa's shoes.elwaclaret wrote:This could be a good shout. I suspect most will keep their heads down for now and waiting for the future ownership to be clearer before tying their colours to NUFC
Could be a lot of young managers in the PL next season,OGS,Lampard,Howe,Silva,Sean at the age of 47 could almost be an elder statesman.
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Would the Geordies be happy with Dyche?
A manager arriving from a smaller club with limited budget to a larger club with a limited budget. He may be seen as a good fit for Ashley but not a good move for Dyche, and not solving the problem for the Geordies.
A manager arriving from a smaller club with limited budget to a larger club with a limited budget. He may be seen as a good fit for Ashley but not a good move for Dyche, and not solving the problem for the Geordies.
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OGS will be on his bike soon if he doesn't turn Uniteds poor form late last season around sharpish.tiger76 wrote:
Could be a lot of young managers in the PL next season,OGS,Lampard,Howe,Silva,Sean at the age of 47 could almost be an elder statesman.
Suspect a few top names are hovering, waiting for that.
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No, they definitely think they're a big club & should be challenging for the top 6 on gates aloneDevils_Advocate wrote:Is there any evidence of all these Newcastle fans that think they should be in the top 6 or are we just making things up to emphasise a point?
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Having worked in Newcastle for well over a decade I can confirm that their delusions of grandeur are ...... grandly delusional or something like that. They also struck me as genuine supporters of their club - very passionate - but not realistic.Devils_Advocate wrote:Ok then im genuinely interested on how you arrive at the conclusion that Newcastle fans think they should be in the top 6 if its not something you've just made up