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Dawson to Watford

Post by Texanclaret16 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 3:50 pm

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So confirmed WBA accept 5.5 mill offer for Dawson. Means we will not be getting him I see that as a plus.

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:05 pm

I'd rather give Gibson some game time tbh
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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by kaptin1 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:08 pm

We’ll no doubt try and sign him from Watford next summer

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:13 pm

I don’t believe he was under consideration
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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by Reecey1987 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:18 pm

Texanclaret16 wrote:
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So confirmed WBA accept 5.5 mill offer for Dawson. Means we will not be getting him I see that as a plus.
Good price that for dawson

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:19 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I don’t believe he was under consideration

What do you mean? :shock:

There were links and sources and everything saying that he was :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:21 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:What do you mean? :shock:

There were links and sources and everything saying that he was :shock: :shock: :shock:
What sources?

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:22 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Good price that for dawson
Don’t these West Brom special offers end this weekend?
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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by Corky » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:23 pm

ClaretTony wrote:What sources?
Tomato perhaps.

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:24 pm

ClaretTony wrote:What sources?
The sources that everyone was talking about in the links thread

I mean they were from the reputable sources such as HITC, teamtalk and the Mail so must have been some truth in it








And if you can tell I’m most disappointed that this hasn’t been correct ;)

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:24 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:The sources that everyone was talking about in the links thread

I mean they were from the reputable sources such as HITC, teamtalk and the Mail so must have been some truth in it








And if you can tell I’m most disappointed that this hasn’t been correct ;)
HITC, teamtalk & the Mail :D :D
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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by Lord Beamish » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:25 pm

I’d have liked Dawson solely for his heading ability at set pieces. Defensively he’s excellent, and offensively he’d really benefit from our good dead ball deliveries.

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by Reecey1987 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:42 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Don’t these West Brom special offers end this weekend?
I thought it was middle of july ? Did they not do same with rondon last season

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:48 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:I thought it was middle of july ? Did they not do same with rondon last season
Is it mid-July? There was a similar situation with Rondon last year as you say.

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by SGr » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:52 pm

Haha surely not even we are stingy enough to value him lower than that. Surely there was no interest.

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by jojomk1 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:18 pm

Hope we are confident enough to hold on to Tarks

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by jedi_master » Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:40 pm

Would have been a fantastic signing for us at that price and clearly a player Dyche has desperately wanted for about four years, so this does make you wonder along with Adams going to Southampton.

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:41 pm

dodged a bullet in my view, he suffers terribly with piles according to a recent interview, probably sidelined for ages if we had him.

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:44 pm

jedi_master wrote:Would have been a fantastic signing for us at that price and clearly a player Dyche has desperately wanted for about four years, so this does make you wonder along with Adams going to Southampton.
Makes you wonder what?

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:45 pm

No better than what we've got.
As long as we hold on to what we've got.
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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by Grumps » Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:46 pm

jedi_master wrote:Would have been a fantastic signing for us at that price and clearly a player Dyche has desperately wanted for about four years, so this does make you wonder along with Adams going to Southampton.
Fantastic signing to sit on the bench as 4th choice. Dyche did want him, then we signed Gibson instead

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by jedi_master » Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:46 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Makes you wonder what?
Why we have either torn up our target list of players that I think most assumed heavily included Dawson and Adams in particular or were unwilling to pay for both players when we have previously bid more for both than they have ended up going for.

The only logical conclusion I can reach is that we have an entirely different set of targets this summer to what we have done over the last 12 month, which I find surprising.

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by jedi_master » Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:47 pm

Grumps wrote:Fantastic signing to sit on the bench as 4th choice. Dyche did want him, then we signed Gibson instead
Would walk into our team at right back, in my opinion. Just as adept there as in the centre and neither Lowton or Bardsley have that position nailed.

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by Grumps » Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:58 pm

jedi_master wrote:Would walk into our team at right back, in my opinion. Just as adept there as in the centre and neither Lowton or Bardsley have that position nailed.
If we need a right back, I don't think Dawson would be on anyone's list, not particularly the young attacking full back that would fit into the side. If the price is correct, iam sure if we'd wanted him we'd have got him.

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by summitclaret » Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:59 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:No better than what we've got.
As long as we hold on to what we've got.
So you think that we don't need to improve the team?

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by Spijed » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:01 pm

summitclaret wrote:So you think that we don't need to improve the team?
Dawson isn't better than Mee or Tarkowski so wouldn't have improved the team.

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by Grumps » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:03 pm

summitclaret wrote:So you think that we don't need to improve the team?
So are you saying Dawson is better than Mee or Tarks? Or even Gibson?

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:04 pm

Spijed wrote:Dawson isn't better than Mee or Tarkowski so wouldn't have improved the team.
I agree.

For all we know we may have had the same offer accepted, yet we demanded relegation clauses, whereas Watford didn't have them.

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:16 pm

summitclaret wrote:So you think that we don't need to improve the team?
As I posted, imo he's no better, so he wouldn't have improved us.
Probably be sat on his arse a la Vydra.

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:20 pm

Dawson will be a decent enough squad signing for Watford

We have 4 excellent central defenders so no need for us to worry

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by ashtonlongsider » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:22 pm

Don’t think for one moment he’d have dislodged Tarks or Mee. However he could have added competition. He could also have solved a potential problem at right back a position. Especially at the nominal (by PL standards) suggested transfer fee.

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by jojomk1 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:25 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:Dawson will be a decent enough squad signing for Watford

We have 4 excellent central defenders so no need for us to worry
I would be happy to describe Long as "steady" - "excellent" may be stretching reality a bit too far.

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by summitclaret » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:31 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:As I posted, imo he's no better, so he wouldn't have improved us.
Probably be sat on his arse a la Vydra.
I agree that Tarks, mee and Gibbo are better. However, unfortunately i feel someone will meet Tark's release fee this window. It may be good news that we have missed out Dawson but I worry about our ability to get who we want these days.

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:42 pm

summitclaret wrote:I agree that Tarks, mee and Gibbo are better. However, unfortunately i feel someone will meet Tark's release fee this window. It may be good news that we have missed out Dawson but I worry about our ability to get who we want these days.

Who’s said that we wanted him this time?
Yes SD has apparently been after him in previous windows, and 4yrs ago it would have been a good signing and would possibly have been an improvement on what we had at the time but he’s now 4yrs older, and no better than what we already have imo

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:28 pm

ClaretTony wrote:What sources?
Ha give over we have been after him for 4 seasons now - stop trying to make it look like we were never in for him.
You were only quoted the other week saying that Dyche is a big fan so no surprise we are after him again.
Let's face it our recruitment policy is a shambles - this season we need to spend that bit more on players and if it also means wages then so be it.

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:29 pm

jojomk1 wrote:I would be happy to describe Long as "steady" - "excellent" may be stretching reality a bit too far.
Steady is an over statement :D league 1 at best

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by Spijed » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:31 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Steady is an over statement :D league 1 at best
He's certainly good enough for the Championship.
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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:02 pm

Spijed wrote:He's certainly good enough for the Championship.
No don't personally think so as if he had something about him he would have been playing at that level for the last few years - never understand players who are happy to be squad players only though
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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by joey13 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:06 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:No don't personally think so as if he had something about him he would have been playing at that level for the last few years - never understand players who are happy to be squad players only though
Exactly this ,

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:11 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:never understand players who are happy to be squad players only though
Are they happy to be squad players though? Maybe they've had some heart to heart conversations with the manager and the manager has made them believe in themselves and made them determined to push for a starting spot?

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:17 pm

And isn't a "squad player" exactly what Dawson would be if he came here though?
Not saying he'd be happy with it, but however you frame it, that's what it'd amount to.

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:22 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Are they happy to be squad players though? Maybe they've had some heart to heart conversations with the manager and the manager has made them believe in themselves and made them determined to push for a starting spot?
But never going to happen - if we lose tarks Gibson will be in not long

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:24 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:And isn't a "squad player" exactly what Dawson would be if he came here though?
Not saying he'd be happy with it, but however you frame it, that's what it'd amount to.
I think he has that bit more premier league experience but not happening now anyway

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:25 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:But never going to happen - if we lose tarks Gibson will be in not long
How long have we been trying to sign this lad? 5 years?

And Watford go and get him for 5.5m :lol: :lol:

That is what's known in the industry as doing a Burnley
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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:26 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:No don't personally think so as if he had something about him he would have been playing at that level for the last few years - never understand players who are happy to be squad players only though
Who says he’s happy to just be a squad player? He’s been an important member of our team, making 22 PL appearances in 2 seasons. That’s more than 25%. He knows that if there’s an injury to one of our first choice centre backs he will he given the trust of the manager.

He’s been at Burnley a long time, is probably very settled in the area and has probably got a great set of mates. Not to mention he’s part of a PL team and no doubt earning a fantastic living. I don’t think it’s fair to suggest that he doesn’t have ‘something about him’.
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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:26 pm

Not sure why that quoted you Boysie, it was not aimed at you!
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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:31 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:But never going to happen - if we lose tarks Gibson will be in not long
You're going to get people banging on about the left/right foot now.
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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:21 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Ha give over we have been after him for 4 seasons now - stop trying to make it look like we were never in for him.
You were only quoted the other week saying that Dyche is a big fan so no surprise we are after him again.
Let's face it our recruitment policy is a shambles - this season we need to spend that bit more on players and if it also means wages then so be it.
That’s as big an out of context reply as I’ve seen. We tried to sign him five years ago and once since. I don’t believe we were in for him this summer at all and eventually last year our main defensive target was Alfie Mawson who had agreed a deal and then shot off to Fulham.

And if our recruitment policy was a shambles I can assure you we wouldn’t be playing Premier League football.

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by IanMcL » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:25 pm

We'll just have to keep Tarkowski.

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Re: Dawson to Watford

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:24 pm

ClaretTony wrote:That’s as big an out of context reply as I’ve seen. We tried to sign him five years ago and once since. I don’t believe we were in for him this summer at all and eventually last year our main defensive target was Alfie Mawson who had agreed a deal and then shot off to Fulham.

And if our recruitment policy was a shambles I can assure you we wouldn’t be playing Premier League football.
You commented about Dawson a month or so ago Tony and said as much that dyche must like him if we were in for him again - I know he doesn't ring you to tell you our transfer dealings before they happen :D
Anyway we need some quality in through the door soon - no Europa bullshit this season either to blame for some **** poor performances before xmas

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