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Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by TsarBomba » Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:14 am

Nixon reporting McNeil has caught the attention of Juventus. £30m. Saw him at Toulon and want another look.

Spurs interested but not at that price.

Make of that what you will.
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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by JohnDearyMe » Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:19 am

He certainly looks a class act so I'm not too surprised.

Will be interesting to see if he can sustain his form this season or if he'll prove to be a bit of a flash in the pan

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by AndyClaret » Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:22 am

Not for sale, end of.
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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:42 am

TsarBomba wrote:Nixon reporting McNeil has caught the attention of Juventus. £30m. Saw him at Toulon and want another look.

Spurs interested but not at that price.

Make of that what you will.


We’d have to sell for that price.

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:43 am

Spurs paid £30 million for that winger Sissoko who is so inconsistent it's stopped being funny

Plus Dwight has scored more goals last season than Sissoko has since he signed for Spurs ...

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by Socrates » Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:48 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Spurs paid £30 million for that winger Sissoko who is so inconsistent it's stopped being funny

Plus Dwight has scored more goals last season than Sissoko has since he signed for Spurs ...


You mean that lad with 50 odd caps for France who has played in a European Championship and who played in the Champions League Final?

Yeah .... totally reasonable comparing a lad with less than 25 first team appearances to him.
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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by Blackrod » Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:48 am

We’d be stupid to sell him even at that price.
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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:52 am

Socrates wrote:You mean that lad with 50 odd caps for France who has played in a European Championship and who played in the Champions League Final?

Yeah .... totally reasonable comparing a lad with less than 25 first team appearances to him.


Yeah the same lad who's transfer made no sense when he was utter dogshite for spurs for a fair while.
He still struggles to be consistently good even now.

As for France, he's played for them 5 times since he joined spurs, probably a reflection of his poor form..

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by Hipper » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:00 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Spurs paid £30 million for that winger Sissoko who is so inconsistent it's stopped being funny

Plus Dwight has scored more goals last season than Sissoko has since he signed for Spurs ...


Sissoko is not really a winger and I thought he had a good season last year. Super fit, strong, his only failing is in front of goal. I'd have him at the Turf.

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by Dyched » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:00 am

Burnley fan logic

Stones £50m = Tarkowski £750m
Sissoko £30m = McNeil £425m
Kepa £70m = Pope £3.7b
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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:02 am

We'll sell at that price and sign and experienced Chris Waddle to replace him :D

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by LeadBelly » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:06 am

We’d have to sell for that price.


Thankfully we're nowadays in a position where we dont "have" to sell. We're not (anywhere near) in the red & dont have players on crippling salaries (a la Sanchez) that have to be got off the payroll asap.
If it transpires, at some stage, we wish to sell (for the benefit of all parties) - we wont be desperate and will be in a strong position to get an appropriate price for an up and coming talent.
Not the time to sell right now; hopefully he'll develop his career successfully with us for a while yet.
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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:08 am

HITC saying Tottenham also enquired before signing the young lad from Leeds

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by taio » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:09 am

Comparing McNeil to Sissoko is strange.
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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by Socrates » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:14 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Yeah the same lad who's transfer made no sense when he was utter dogshite for spurs for a fair while.
He still struggles to be consistently good even now.

As for France, he's played for them 5 times since he joined spurs, probably a reflection of his poor form..


Or a reflection that their other central midfielders are Pogba, Kante, Matuidi, Ndombele (going to Spurs for £60 mill) and Tolisso.

I’ll just leave this here :-

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... 19-ranked/

30 Best Premier League players in 18/19, where Sissoko is ranked.

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:19 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Yeah the same lad who's transfer made no sense when he was utter dogshite for spurs for a fair while.
He still struggles to be consistently good even now.

As for France, he's played for them 5 times since he joined spurs, probably a reflection of his poor form..


By pretty broad consensus Sissoko was one of Spurs better performers last year.

EDIT - should’ve read further down the thread, I see that point’s been made.
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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by bobinho » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:19 am

Dyched wrote:Burnley fan logic

Stones £50m = Tarkowski £750m
Sissoko £30m = McNeil £425m
Kepa £70m = Pope £3.7b



Finally. Some proper figures.
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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by JohnMcGreal » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:22 am

Sissoko isn't a winger, so it's pretty pointless comparing him with McNeil.

As for £30 million, although we don't technically need it, we'd still find it difficult to turn down. Even if we did, a lot would depend on McNeil himself. If he wanted to move to a club like Juventus, I think we'd find it hard to stand in his way.

He's a class act and I'm not surprised big clubs are interested in him. I hope we can get a full season out of him before the inevitable move.

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by claretdj » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:29 am

If this report is true then its bye bye Dwight, no player in their right mind would turn down the chance to be in the same team as the best player on the planet & champions league football next season..

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Imploding Turtle » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:31 am

AndyClaret wrote:Not for sale, end of.



Ah. There we have it, bois and grills. Andy has spoken and he says Dwight's not for sale. So i guess that's the end of the... wait, guys, why are you still talking? He said "end of" already.
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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by Claretmatt4 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:33 am

Potentially a year to early but I guess hell have an eye on the likes of Sancho who have made a good impact in a major European team.

Hope it's just paper talk, I can't see him being able to turn it down.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:34 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Ah. There we have it, bois and grills. Andy has spoken and he says Dwight's not for sale. So i guess that's the end of the... wait, guys, why are you still talking? He said "end of" already.


He saw it scribbled on the side of an X43

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by Longside4evr » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:35 am

This is like going back to the sixties when Sampdoria were trying to tap up Jimmy McIlroy
It's to early yet I think for McNeil to move on even though a big pay day may await needs another season with us to get that full season in and take it from their

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by AndyClaret » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:37 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:He saw it scribbled on the side of an X43


Dry your eyes mate.

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by Walton » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:38 am

Since when has Sissoko been a winger?

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by BFC123 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:47 am

£30m is far too low in the current market. He’s got 4 years on his contract, so we should be looking at a minimum of £40m. Wan-Bissaka, who is older than McNeil and a full-back (who tend to cost less than forward players) just went for £50m. There’s talk of Kalvin Phillips and Adam Webster in the Championship costing upwards of £25m if their clubs were to sell them. We’re in the strongest position financially that we’ve ever been in.
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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:51 am

For a bit of context.

Clyne cost 12.5m 4 years ago.
That probably equates to about 30m now (if not more)
Dwight had Clyne on toast to such an extent last season that Clyne was still trying to find him in the dressing room at halftime before he was hooked and never returned for the second half.

I said at the time that we would get serious offers from the very top for this guy. As others have said it may be a year early but 30m is on the low side for what he could become (even this season). Hard to turn down the likes of Juve and as others have said we may not need to sell, however, he will be outgrowing us very soon.
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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by Blackrod » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:53 am

McNeil himself won’t benefit from moving yet from a footballing and playing perspective.

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by jojomk1 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:54 am

I presume this was the Burnley news that Nixon had tweeted about yesterday

And I thought it might have been about an actual signing :roll:

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:56 am

Not sure he’s thrive at Juventus. It would be like living in a foreign country.
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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:56 am

For a bit of context, Ian Cox cost us £500,000 20 years ago.

The market has moved on since then and it’s fair to suggest if Cox cost that amount, then McNeil should not be sold for anything less than a trillion pounds.
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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:04 am

Ian Moore cost us £1million about the same time

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by taffy » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:06 am

If he has 4 years to run on a contract then we need to keep him for the next 3 seasons and hope he makes good steady progress and hopefully an England cap or two and then see what we can get for him

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by Foulthrow » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:10 am

BFC123 wrote:£30m is far too low in the current market. He’s got 4 years on his contract, so we should be looking at a minimum of £40m. Wan-Bissaka, who is older than McNeil and a full-back (who tend to cost less than forward players) just went for £50m. There’s talk of Kalvin Phillips and Adam Webster in the Championship costing upwards of £25m if their clubs were to sell them. We’re in the strongest position financially that we’ve ever been in.


I was pretty much going to post the same thing. £30m might seem like a daft money for a lad who's had only half a season but, put in him any other Prem team on a comparable level with us (i.e. not "Top Six"), and offers of £50m would be being touted.

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by Petersa » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:11 am

claretdj wrote:If this report is true then its bye bye Dwight, no player in their right mind would turn down the chance to be in the same team as the best player on the planet & champions league football next season..


I tend not to disagree with this too much but I think in the short-term at least it should read same club not same team as the best player on the planet. Also if Matt Targett is 14 m plus then 30 is a bit low!

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by kaptin1 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:21 am

Swap him for Ronaldo?

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:28 am

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:We’d have to sell for that price.


Give over.

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by MACCA » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:28 am

It's what my deleted post was about on the Burnley transfer thread.

I'd heard there had been interest and he was available.

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by ZizkovClaret » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:45 am

kaptin1 wrote:Swap him for Ronaldo?


Why? Muchacho's faster!
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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:52 am

We avoided relegation due to McNeil. Simple mathematics shows this as a terrible move unless we bring in someone as good.
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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:54 am

If he has a good first half of the season we could command £50m in January or even more than that. Or possibly even more in the summer if he has an amazing season. The English clubs will come running for him then, that’s where we will make the big bucks
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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:56 am

Hedontplayforyou wrote:If he has a good first half of the season we could command £50m in January or even more than that. Or possibly even more in the summer if he has an amazing season. The English clubs will come running for him then, that’s where we will make the big bucks


Also he'll be in the England euros.

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by SGr » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:57 am

Not surprised there is interest. Top player in the making.

Depends on the risk management, get him now for a set price which I see as relatively low or wait for him to prove himself in a full season and pay a higher fee but have certainty.

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:59 am

They could always buy him and loan him back to us
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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by rob63 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:01 am

jojomk1 wrote:I presume this was the Burnley news that Nixon had tweeted about yesterday

And I thought it might have been about an actual signing :roll:


Don't be silly, too early by far :)

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:02 am

When you think about it logically, you then come to the conclusion that McNeil won't be going anywhere this summer.

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by rob63 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:05 am

MACCA wrote:It's what my deleted post was about on the Burnley transfer thread.

I'd heard there had been interest and he was available.


Why was it deleted Macca, any reason given?

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by Spijed » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:06 am

Bin Ont Turf wrote:When you think about it logically, you then come to the conclusion that McNeil won't be going anywhere this summer.


Indeed.

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by Longside4evr » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:10 am

Other teams just think they can steamroll us into selling a player because of our size of being a Town team pretty much, its happened in the past were we have had to sell our best talent to balance the books.
This could end up an exodus Gibson Tarkowski, Heaton, Hart, McNeil and Barnes
How would we go about signing players if that lot went a dread to think

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Re: Dwight McNeil - Juventus

Post by jedi_master » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:11 am

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