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Yankees/Red Sox baseball in London.

Post by exilecanada » Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:54 pm

I don’t know if any of you guys saw the Yankees/Red Sox baseball games in London this weekend. I’m sure many may have seen games while on their travels in the U.S. I’m curious as to what you guys think of the game in general. Personally I enjoy the game, I’ll add my comments if this thread shows any signs of life.

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Re: Yankees/Red Sox baseball in London.

Post by fatboy47 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:55 pm

Rounders.

In fancy kit.
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Post by box_of_frogs » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:07 pm

Prefer American football and ice hockey, but would much rather watch baseball than basketball.

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Post by Spijed » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:09 pm

fatboy47 wrote:Rounders.

In fancy kit.
When you see some of the catches taken at the cricket world cup it somewhat shows up the frailties of baseball if they need to wear a big bucket on their hand!

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Re: Yankees/Red Sox baseball in London.

Post by Bosscat » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:14 pm

Must admit my game of choice from over the pond isn't Rounders for blokes (Baseball), American Football (Yank Rugby) or Basketball (Netball for 8ft Men....)

I am a bit Biased though (cos my Grandaughter plays it) :D

That is the fantastic sport that is LACROSSE.... :D :D

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Post by exilecanada » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:41 pm

Spijed wrote:When you see some of the catches taken at the cricket world cup it somewhat shows up the frailties of baseball if they need to wear a big bucket on their hand!

Thank you, I was expecting the baseball/cricket reference. Both games aren’t too dissimilar, for instance the distance from wicket to wicket is 66 feet, distance between pitching mound and home plate is 61 feet.

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Post by exilecanada » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:44 pm

Bosscat wrote: That is the fantastic sport that is LACROSSE.

Lacrosse is Canada's official national sport, although many would assume ice hockey.

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Post by Bosscat » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:54 pm

exilecanada wrote:Lacrosse is Canada's official national sport, although many would assume ice hockey.
Yes I know and it is from across the pond isn't it .... ;)

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Post by Paul Waine » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:02 pm

exilecanada wrote:Thank you, I was expecting the baseball/cricket reference. Both games aren’t too dissimilar, for instance the distance from wicket to wicket is 66 feet, distance between pitching mound and home plate is 61 feet.
Hi exile, I once won a (modest) bet with a US work colleague. How much faster can the top baseball pitcher pitch compared with a fast cricket bowler bowl? And, you will know, of course, that they allow totally different actions. My colleague claimed the pitcher would be more than 10 mph faster. I said not.

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Post by Inchy » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:08 pm

I went to a match whist in America. It was very dull.
A bit like test cricket but with even less excitement. I couldn’t believe how rarely they actually hit the ball.
Even most of the crowd didn’t show up until half way through.

Food was also disappointing.

Ice Hockey is the only major American sport I can tolerate for longer than a few minutes
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Re: Yankees/Red Sox baseball in London.

Post by Spijed » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:09 pm

Inchy wrote:Ice Hockey is the only major American sport I can tolerate for longer than a few minutes
Often with a good punch-up thrown in for good measure! :)

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Post by Paul Waine » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:11 pm

exilecanada wrote:I don’t know if any of you guys saw the Yankees/Red Sox baseball games in London this weekend. I’m sure many may have seen games while on their travels in the U.S. I’m curious as to what you guys think of the game in general. Personally I enjoy the game, I’ll add my comments if this thread shows any signs of life.
I saw the Yankees/Red Sox at Yankee Stadium in August 2015. An enjoyable night. I've also "watched" baseball at Baltimore (is that "the Brickyard?"), Houston (Minute Maid Park? previously, Enron Field), Boston (Fenway Park, of course) and Seattle (1999, I think, just after the then new stadium opened).

I've also watched a number of "decider" series on tv when I've been over in the states. The game can be fun when you know some of the players and have some sense of the stats. And, cricket is also a game when you need to know your stats. 1,000 runs in the season. X 5-fors, or whatever the stat, we've all got to cheer - when otherwise not a lot appears to be happening. ;)

Oh, and, the 7th inning "stretch."
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Re: Yankees/Red Sox baseball in London.

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:11 pm

If I was going to watch a US sport than yeah it would be Ice Hockey. Quick passing, quick shooting.. normal hockey, just on speed.

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Post by Paul Waine » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:15 pm

FactualFrank wrote:If I was going to watch a US sport than yeah it would be Ice Hockey. Quick passing, quick shooting.. normal hockey, just on speed.
I saw my first ice hockey in Denver in Feb this year. I was very confused when one team had apparently swapped their goalie (what do they call that position?) for an additional outfield player. Seems it's part of the rules - the other team had been penalised and weren't allowed to score for the period of the penalty.

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Post by Spijed » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:16 pm

What is the theory behind the wearing of a glove on one hand?

Surely they aren't afraid to catch a ball?

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Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:20 pm

Paul Waine wrote:I saw my first ice hockey in Denver in Feb this year. I was very confused when one team had apparently swapped their goalie (what do they call that position?) for an additional outfield player. Seems it's part of the rules - the other team had been penalised and weren't allowed to score for the period of the penalty.
The goalie can be swapped for an outfield player but I thought it was only done when there’s a minute or so left on the clock and the team is a goal behind?

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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:20 pm

Spijed wrote:What is the theory behind the wearing of a glove on one hand?
Surely they aren't afraid to catch a ball?
I just have to research it mate... give me 10 minutes!

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Post by exilecanada » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:21 pm

Spijed wrote:Often with a good punch-up thrown in for good measure! :)
I used to be a hockey fan until the ‘punch ups’ became intolerable. Some NHL rules have changed in order to accentuate more skill than brute force. Maple Leafs still suck though :D Raptors are the big game in town. :lol:

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Post by Spijed » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:24 pm

exilecanada wrote:I used to be a hockey fan until the ‘punch ups’ became intolerable. Some NHL rules have changed in order to accentuate more skill than brute force. Maple Leafs still suck though :D Raptors are the big game in town. :lol:
When I worked in Illinois I used to watch the Springfield Junior blues quite a lot.

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Re: Yankees/Red Sox baseball in London.

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:25 pm

Edit: Was thinking of Red Socks.
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Re: Yankees/Red Sox baseball in London.

Post by dsr » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:25 pm

Spijed wrote:What is the theory behind the wearing of a glove on one hand?

Surely they aren't afraid to catch a ball?
At risk of stating the obvious, it makes it easier to catch. Cricketers would wear one too, if the laws didn't forbid it.

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Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:29 pm

dsr wrote:At risk of stating the obvious, it makes it easier to catch. Cricketers would wear one too, if the laws didn't forbid it.
Wicket-keepers wear two.

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Post by exilecanada » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:30 pm

Inchy wrote:I went to a match whist in America. It was very dull.
A bit like test cricket but with even less excitement. I couldn’t believe how rarely they actually hit the ball.
Even most of the crowd didn’t show up until half way through.

Now we’re cooking :lol: That’s exactly what I wanted to get to about baseball. Some games can be like a 5 day test match, then all of a sudden, a 20/20 breaks out :D

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Post by Spijed » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:39 pm

dsr wrote:At risk of stating the obvious, it makes it easier to catch. Cricketers would wear one too, if the laws didn't forbid it.
But sport shouldn't be about making things easier, it should be about the skill, as seen by some of the catches in the cricket!

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Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:40 pm

Spijed wrote:But sport shouldn't be about making things easier, it should be about the skill, as seen by some of the catches in the cricket!
We could make football goals half the size then. Or maybe make cricket balls the size of golf balls and get the batsmen to use sticks.

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Post by Spijed » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:47 pm

Take Joe Roots dropped catch at the start of India's innings. Had he been wearing a glove that would almost certainly have been caught.

Far more predictability, thus less excitement.

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Post by exilecanada » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:47 pm

This thread is gaining legs :)

Believe me, I’m not ‘bigging up’ baseball, nor putting down cricket. I was a huge cricket fan back in the day. I have wonderful memories of Lancs League cricket when Lance Gibbs, Charlie Griffiths, Wes Hall, Conrad Hunte, et al ruled the roost. I find the similarities between cricket and baseball quite fascinating.

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Post by Bosscat » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:56 pm

exilecanada wrote:This thread is gaining legs :)

Believe me, I’m not ‘bigging up’ baseball, nor putting down cricket. I was a huge cricket fan back in the day. I have wonderful memories of Lancs League cricket when Lance Gibbs, Charlie Griffiths, Wes Hall, Conrad Hunte, et al ruled the roost. I find the similarities between cricket and baseball quite fascinating.
?????
Similarities between Baseball and Cricket ?????

Now there is something I fail to grasp.
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Post by Corky » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:00 pm

Baseball to give it the correct definition is; rounders with hats. One of a number of American sports not be taken too seriously.
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Post by dsr » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:04 pm

Corky wrote:Baseball to give it the correct definition is; rounders with hats. One of a number of American sports not be taken too seriously.
I've seen small children playing football. But that doesn't mean grown-ups' football shouldn't be taken seriously.

Why the contempt for rounders and the people who play it? And why the scorn for the hats?

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Post by dsr » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:07 pm

Spijed wrote:Take Joe Roots dropped catch at the start of India's innings. Had he been wearing a glove that would almost certainly have been caught.

Far more predictability, thus less excitement.
I suppose it depends whether you think cricket and baseball should be the same game or different games. Why does cricket allow you to deadbat the ball but baseball insists you should run? Why does baseball have all the action in front of the bat but cricket lets you score from an edge? Why does cricket have a bigger bat? Because they're different games.

If a goalkeeper wasn't allowed to wear gloves, it would lead to much less predictability and more excitement, just as in baseball. Wouldn't make it a good idea.
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Post by exilecanada » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:28 pm

Bosscat wrote:?????
Similarities between Baseball and Cricket ?????

Now there is something I fail to grasp.

Well, think about it…………….pitcher (bowler) throws a circular object with protruding seams towards the batter (batter) at a rather large rate of speed (unless in cricket parlance, the bowler is a spinner, whereby making more use of the ground affect) in order to deceive the batter. Batter sees the spin and attempts to make adjustments in mid flight as to the final destination of the circular object . In cricket terms, batter made choose to make a defensive stroke, in baseball terms, batter may ‘foul it off’ and wait for the next pitch (bowl). Placing of the defensive team comes into to play, anticipating where the batter will attempt to hit the ball, and defend such tendencies.


As I said earlier, both games are brilliant.

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Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:35 pm

fatboy47 wrote:Rounders.

In fancy kit.
*yawn*

"Gee, did you come up with that yourself?!"

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Post by Corky » Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:35 am

dsr wrote:I've seen small children playing football. But that doesn't mean grown-ups' football shouldn't be taken seriously.

Why the contempt for rounders and the people who play it? And why the scorn for the hats?
It is called humour, perhaps an alien concept to you.

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Post by Bosscat » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:18 am

exilecanada wrote:Well, think about it…………….pitcher (bowler) throws a circular object with protruding seams towards the batter (batter) at a rather large rate of speed (unless in cricket parlance, the bowler is a spinner, whereby making more use of the ground affect) in order to deceive the batter. Batter sees the spin and attempts to make adjustments in mid flight as to the final destination of the circular object . In cricket terms, batter made choose to make a defensive stroke, in baseball terms, batter may ‘foul it off’ and wait for the next pitch (bowl). Placing of the defensive team comes into to play, anticipating where the batter will attempt to hit the ball, and defend such tendencies.


As I said earlier, both games are brilliant.
I do not disagree they are both ball sports but..... to say they're are similar is at the very least ..... like comparing a horse with a dog (or a camel).

They have 4 legs and are used for racing but you cannot call them similar by any stretch of the imagination...

I think you have been on the Labatts m8 :lol:

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:15 am

I love the baseball, Red Sox fan, but it is just so slow. Coaches coming out to talk to pitchers, number of times and how long it takes to change pitcher, number of dead pitches on two strikes. All these need looking at but the skill and athleticism is undeniable.
Bo Jacksons wall catch. Try this at home.
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Post by dsr » Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:23 am

Corky wrote:It is called humour, perhaps an alien concept to you.
If there is only one joke, it doesn't stay funny when repeated ad nauseam. You're the third "rounders" humourist on the thread.

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Post by Alanstevensonsgloves » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:33 pm

Inchy wrote:I went to a match whist in America. It was very dull.
A bit like test cricket but with even less excitement. I couldn’t believe how rarely they actually hit the ball.
Sounds like we went to the same game! Wrigley Field in Chicago, featuring the great Sammy Sosa. Don't think he he hit a thing all day. No-one else did either.

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Post by aggi » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:50 pm

I went to watch the Yankees in New York, also found it very dull live.

There's a lot of interruptions, no balls, not hitting the ball, field adjustments, etc. It's like someone thought test cricket was too fast paced and exciting.

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Post by Hibsclaret » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:36 pm

I still don’t get what they’re aiming at.

Went to Wrigley Field for the history some years ago and it can only be described as a surreal feeling of sitting and watching paint dry.

Getting a beer is as interesting as it gets because there’s someone selling at the end of the row and you shout 2 beers please. You then send your ID and cash down the row person to person to the bloke who then sends the beers and ID back person to person. Very strange. If that happens on the turf, the money never makes it to the end of the line or the beer gets drunk before you get it or your ID gets copied and your identity taken... lol

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Post by claret wizard » Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:55 pm

Big Cricket fan, been to Ashes in OZ, last two tours in India, loads of stuff here. Also a big Baseball fan, I'm in San Francisco a couple of times a year with work so go and see the Giants. There's no real comparison between the sports apart from it being played with a bat and ball.

A tip for new watchers, the games are weighted completely differently. In cricket the batter has all the advantages, he scores loads, can protect his wickets, can share the load with a partner, ball is hard to catch, boundaries are shorter, he can play the ball in any direction. In baseball the advantage goes to the pitcher, can get someone out without them hitting it, finite about if pitches, can throw with a bent arm, fielders have big gloves, batters have to run, etc. So you have to concentrate more on what the pitching side are doing to batters, learn the different pitches, see how they get tired, see how they pitch to different batters etc. Too many people expect it to be like a 20:20 game and watch the batter whereas they should be looking at the pitching and fielding.

The more you watch, the more you see.
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Re: Yankees/Red Sox baseball in London.

Post by edison » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:21 pm

I enjoy baseball, played it (badly), prefer it to football, but found the London Series coverage unbearable to watch. That being said, I'd maybe pay to see the Cubs next year when they come over.

As for not many people hitting the ball, I prefer that. Games when the pitchers are dominant.

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