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Our transfer record progression

Post by aggi » Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:36 pm

Again from F365 https://www.football365.com/news/the-tr ... gue-club-4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Steven Defour – £7.3m (Anderlecht, August 2016)

Jeff Hendrick – £10.5m (Derby, August 2016)

Robbie Brady – £13m (Norwich, January 2017)

Chris Wood – £15m (Leeds, August 2017)

Ben Gibson – £15m (Middlesbrough, August 2018)

Interesting that all are still at the club but only one would really be viewed as a definite starter at the moment.

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Post by claptrappers_union » Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:40 pm

£10 - £15m. I think thats the going rate of a mediocre Premier League quality player these days. You can get cheaper from a lower league sides, but but they need developing for at least 12 months.

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Post by tim_noone » Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:53 pm

aggi wrote:Again from F365 https://www.football365.com/news/the-tr ... gue-club-4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Steven Defour – £7.3m (Anderlecht, August 2016)

Jeff Hendrick – £10.5m (Derby, August 2016)

Robbie Brady – £13m (Norwich, January 2017)

Chris Wood – £15m (Leeds, August 2017)

Ben Gibson – £15m (Middlesbrough, August 2018)

Interesting that all are still at the club but only one would really be viewed as a definite starter at the moment.
Were getting like Arsenal....only one Englishman in that Lot. :o
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Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:59 pm

2 definite starters for me

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Post by Longside4evr » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:10 pm

Why isn't Michael Keane in that Everton list 25.65m that would make up 4 premier players from us that are clubs record buys.
It because it was after 2014 :oops:
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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:17 pm

Longside4evr wrote:Why isn't Michael Keane in that Everton list 25.65m that would make up 4 premier players from us that are clubs record buys
Why would Keane be on it? They paid £28 million for Lukaku three years earlier.

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Post by Longside4evr » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:20 pm

Why would Keane be on it? They paid £28 million for Lukaku three years earlier.

yes just seen it just thought it was record deals did not realise that it was year on year

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Post by wilks_bfc » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:09 pm

aggi wrote:Again from F365 https://www.football365.com/news/the-tr ... gue-club-4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Steven Defour – £7.3m (Anderlecht, August 2016)

Jeff Hendrick – £10.5m (Derby, August 2016)

Robbie Brady – £13m (Norwich, January 2017)

Chris Wood – £15m (Leeds, August 2017)

Ben Gibson – £15m (Middlesbrough, August 2018)

Interesting that all are still at the club but only one would really be viewed as a definite starter at the moment.

If we hadn't signed all those we could have bought Aubameyang and still had £5m left over

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Post by Fretters » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:24 pm

As an aside, Ade Akinbiyi once held the record of being the transfer record at the most clubs. Think it was Wolves, Leicester, Palace and Sheff Utd all at the same time. Wonder who holds that record now?

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Post by Claretmatt4 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:42 pm

Fretters wrote:As an aside, Ade Akinbiyi once held the record of being the transfer record at the most clubs. Think it was Wolves, Leicester, Palace and Sheff Utd all at the same time. Wonder who holds that record now?
Robbie Keane must be high up. Crouch?

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Post by South West Claret. » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:29 pm

aggi wrote:Again from F365 https://www.football365.com/news/the-tr ... gue-club-4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Steven Defour – £7.3m (Anderlecht, August 2016)

Jeff Hendrick – £10.5m (Derby, August 2016)

Robbie Brady – £13m (Norwich, January 2017)

Chris Wood – £15m (Leeds, August 2017)

Ben Gibson – £15m (Middlesbrough, August 2018)

Interesting that all are still at the club but only one would really be viewed as a definite starter at the moment.
Don’t forget Vydra, how much was he 10m?

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Post by agreenwood » Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:01 pm

Dyche has been saying for a while that the transfer fees aren't really the issue, although the fact that we seem to have been reluctant to go beyond our valuation of a few recent targets might suggest otherwise.

It's probably more telling to see whether there's been much movement in terms of the highest wage earners over the past 4-5 years. That's where Dyche says the challenge is.

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Post by AfloatinClaret » Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:23 pm

agreenwood wrote:Dyche has been saying for a while that the transfer fees aren't really the issue...highest wage earners...That's where Dyche says the challenge is.
Agreed, in the grand scheme of things whether you paying £15M or £17-18M is not a significant issue (that £2M+ windfall we just collected on Ings could cover it) and as a one-off/fixed cost it's done and dusted. But if you also have to pay said player £10-20k/week more than the current squad members are getting then you're going wreck any harmony/team spirit, unless of course everyone else gets a pay-rise to provide parity.
With a squad of twenty-odd players that might be a further £15 million and that's every year and in part at least would continue even if your new 'star' player proved a dud and you got relegated.
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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:30 pm

Who was the record signing before Defour? Was it Gray and potentially before that Fletcher?

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:35 pm

agreenwood wrote:Dyche has been saying for a while that the transfer fees aren't really the issue, although the fact that we seem to have been reluctant to go beyond our valuation of a few recent targets might suggest otherwise.

It's probably more telling to see whether there's been much movement in terms of the highest wage earners over the past 4-5 years. That's where Dyche says the challenge is.
The wages are always the more significant and I’m sure we’ve missed out on players in recent years due to that.

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Post by elwaclaret » Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:58 pm

ClaretTony wrote:The wages are always the more significant and I’m sure we’ve missed out on players in recent years due to that.
I agree, and fully agree the club’s position. When managers eg Fergi could afford to insist they were paid more than their highest earners, it wasn’t so much to line their own pockets but to keep a check of moral at the club by pointing out whatever was offered would be doubled at minimum, before any other contracts were considered.

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Post by IanMcL » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:33 pm

elwaclaret wrote:I agree, and fully agree the club’s position. When managers eg Fergi could afford to insist they were paid more than their highest earners, it wasn’t so much to line their own pockets but to keep a check of moral at the club by pointing out whatever was offered would be doubled at minimum, before any other contracts were considered.
He made sure Wayne Rooney was paid exceedingly well!

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Post by elwaclaret » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:37 pm

IanMcL wrote:He made sure Wayne Rooney was paid exceedingly well!
O I he didn’t grow up in Paisley for nowt! :D

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Post by BFC123 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:41 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Who was the record signing before Defour? Was it Gray and potentially before that Fletcher?
Gray, Boyd, Fletcher

Edit: Boyd might have been the same fee as Fletcher actually (£3m), so not technically a record signing.

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Post by TVC15 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:43 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Who was the record signing before Defour? Was it Gray and potentially before that Fletcher?
Gray was £6m (rising to £9m with promotion add ons)
Fletcher was £3m.

I think they were both records at the time.

We doubled our money on both - Gray went for £18m and Fletcher for £7m.
I liked Fletcher - thought he had a lot of quality.

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Post by elwaclaret » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:48 pm

TVC15 wrote:Gray was £6m (rising to £9m with promotion add ons)
Fletcher was £3m.

I think they were both records at the time.

We doubled our money on both - Gray went for £18m and Fletcher for £7m.
I liked Fletcher - thought he had a lot of quality.
Agree with you. Would have been a lot more fondly remembered had we stayed up and he hadn’t had to go to Wolves. Remember him making it pretty obvious he wished things were different too, from memory.

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:54 pm

TVC15 wrote:Gray was £6m (rising to £9m with promotion add ons)
Fletcher was £3m.

I think they were both records at the time.

We doubled our money on both - Gray went for £18m and Fletcher for £7m.
I liked Fletcher - thought he had a lot of quality.
I liked Fletcher but he never really progressed. Had 7 years in the Premier League but never got beyond a relegation battle and has been in the Championship for the last three years.

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Post by CombatClaret » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:54 pm

AfloatinClaret wrote:Agreed, in the grand scheme of things whether you paying £15M or £17-18M is not a significant issue (that £2M+ windfall we just collected on Ings could cover it) and as a one-off/fixed cost it's done and dusted. But if you also have to pay said player £10-20k/week more than the current squad members are getting then you're going wreck any harmony/team spirit, unless of course everyone else gets a pay-rise to provide parity.
With a squad of twenty-odd players that might be a further £15 million and that's every year and in part at least would continue even if your new 'star' player proved a dud and you got relegated.
Listening to the Guardian podcast today and they specifically mentioned the key transfer impediment even to teams like Arsenal & Spurs was signing a player that disrupted the wage structure of the club and forced rises among an entire team.

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Post by Rowls » Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:07 am

I can remember when it was Liam Robinson for £325,000 so it's all relative really.

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:12 am

Rowls wrote:I can remember when it was Liam Robinson for £325,000 so it's all relative really.
I can remember Fletcher, Morley & James being record signings.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:33 am

AfloatinClaret wrote:Agreed, in the grand scheme of things whether you paying £15M or £17-18M is not a significant issue (that £2M+ windfall we just collected on Ings could cover it) and as a one-off/fixed cost it's done and dusted. But if you also have to pay said player £10-20k/week more than the current squad members are getting then you're going wreck any harmony/team spirit, unless of course everyone else gets a pay-rise to provide parity.
With a squad of twenty-odd players that might be a further £15 million and that's every year and in part at least would continue even if your new 'star' player proved a dud and you got relegated.
Such a simple thing to understand, yet so many football fans can't seem to wrap their heads around it and it isn't just Burnley fans.

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Post by Fretters » Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:41 pm

Rowls wrote:I can remember when it was Liam Robinson for £325,000 so it's all relative really.
Who I think was followed by:

Paul Barnes - 400K - 1996
Steve Davis - 750K - 1999
Ian Moore - £1m - 2000
Robbie Blake - £1m - 2002
Steven Fletcher - £3m - 2009
Andre Bikey - £3m - 2009 (not sure on that one?)
George Boyd - £3m - 2014
Michael Keane - £3m - 2015 (I think?)

And then Defour and so on.
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