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England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:30 am
by claretonthecoast1882
Must win game, off to a good start with Ferguson out for the kiwis

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:42 am
by bfccrazy
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Must win game, off to a good start with Ferguson out for the kiwis
I thought the start had been brought back an hour then :lol:

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:08 am
by LeadBelly
No excuses now- won the toss (and chose to bat first like they've done successfully before).
Hopefully we get a good opening stand as per v India. Fingers crossed.

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:51 am
by claretonthecoast1882
bfccrazy wrote:I thought the start had been brought back an hour then :lol:

:D

Good start 44/0 from 5 overs

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:53 am
by bfccrazy
claretonthecoast1882 wrote::D

Good start 44/0 from 5 overs
I’m getting updates from my dad who wants Pakistan to win against Bangladesh and kiwis today :lol:

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:54 am
by claretonthecoast1882
bfccrazy wrote:I’m getting updates from my dad who wants Pakistan to win tomorrow and kiwis today :lol:

You can't pick ya family :D

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:56 am
by bfccrazy
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:You can't pick ya family :D
Tell me about it ..... picked him up from airport other day and he called and first words “landed, can you get tickets for the semi final at OT next week?” :lol:

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:25 am
by tiger76
It's amazing the difference having this pair at the top of the order makes,strong start but England need to post a big score,and not fall away like India did yesterday.

Ferguson's a big out for the Kiwi's,he's impressed this tournament.

Also shows the importance of winning the toss.

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:39 am
by tiger76
Yet another century partnership for these two.

This is Jonny Bairstow and Jason Roy's third century partnership at this World Cup; equalling the opening pair record at this tournament, held by Aaron Finch and David Warner (three).

It is also three century partnerships in a row for Bairstow and Roy - the first time they've done it together in ODIs.

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:43 am
by martin_p
111-0 off 17

Bairstow and Roy both past 50.

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:54 am
by Quickenthetempo
123-1

Roy chipped to the cover fielder

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:11 pm
by ElectroClaret
145-1

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:19 pm
by DAVETHEVICAR
161-1 after 25
If they don’t slow up at this stage as they did v India then they should get 350 plus

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:02 pm
by Quickenthetempo
206 fer 3 off 32 overs

Bairstow got his hundred then got out.

Joe Root wasted a review on a caught behind.

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:03 pm
by Spijed
Quickenthetempo wrote:206 fer 3 off 32 overs

Bairstow got his hundred then got out.

Joe Root wasted a review on a caught behind.
Let's hope we can crack on to 350 from here.

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:08 pm
by karatekid
I expect overs 30 to 40 will be slow to ensure we bat out the 50. Last 10 overs will see us pick up the pace. Hopefully.

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:16 pm
by ClaretTony
karatekid wrote:I expect overs 30 to 40 will be slow to ensure we bat out the 50. Last 10 overs will see us pick up the pace. Hopefully.
Losing Root, Bairstow & Buttler has slowed things down a bit. And, as said, our review was wasted.

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:17 pm
by Spijed
karatekid wrote:I expect overs 30 to 40 will be slow to ensure we bat out the 50. Last 10 overs will see us pick up the pace. Hopefully.
Never quite understood that mentality of slowing down.

Getting 350 all out from 45 overs isn't much different from getting 350-7 from 50 overs, for example, when you take into consideration the run rate and wickets lost.

One balances the other.

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:19 pm
by karatekid
Morgan and stokes can still do some real damage to the scoreboard. Just need to keep our bowlers in the Pavillion.

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:44 pm
by Spijed
248-5 now after 42.

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:45 pm
by Ashingtonclaret46
We won't get 300 after yet another cracking start.
We just don't seem to perform under pressure. I shall keep my fingers crossed for the win, however, I think that we blew it last week with our defeat against Sri Lanka.
I am the eternal optimist normally, however.....................

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:50 pm
by Hibsclaret
Really got bogged down here. Good bowling mind...

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:53 pm
by Foulthrow
Have we hit a six yet? This is really worrying. NZ have bowled well by taking pace off the ball - not something we have. We might need Bangladesh to do us a favour at this rate.

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:57 pm
by Spijed
259-6 now.

Struggle to get to 300. Mind you, looks hard for batting at the moment so New Zealand might have to take a few more risks.

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:02 pm
by Quickenthetempo
The middle order is struggling when Root doesn't bat long. He rotates the strike so well.

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:02 pm
by ClaretTony
Morgan gone 272/7 with 23 balls remaining

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:10 pm
by Foulthrow
I hope England’s bowlers have taken note that it needs to be pace off the ball.

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:20 pm
by Ashingtonclaret46
"We won't get 300 after yet another cracking start..........."

I said the same thing the other day and it worked and it seems to have worked again, however, will we manage a similar result ---watch this space!

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:26 pm
by Spijed
Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:"We won't get 300 after yet another cracking start..........."

I said the same thing the other day and it worked and it seems to have worked again, however, will we manage a similar result ---watch this space!
You can never set a field when the ball is never going where the batsman intended and it's quite easy to get a few runs when that happens.

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:28 pm
by Local cricketer
Looks a good score to me. Pitch only going to get more tricky

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:48 pm
by LeadBelly
Yes- it looks a very decent score, though 320 looked on after that great start.
If NZ chase that down it'll be an achievement worthy of clinching a semi-final spot (or a poor bowling effort from us).

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:18 pm
by tiger76
14-2 Nicholls and Guptill back in the hutch,all on Kane Williamson as per,Woakes and Archer bowling brilliantly.

Can't see them getting anywhere near 300 now,the pitch is becoming slower by the over.

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:41 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Just wish Morgan would put a Gully/5th slip in to stop the run down to 3rd man get out shot.

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:53 pm
by bfccrazy
New Zealand 56-2 from 14 Overs....

Cheers England, dad’s crying.

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:59 pm
by claret10
Williamson out....surprised they gave that....looked a bit inconclusive although I'm sure he did touch it.....lucky wicket nonetheless

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:00 pm
by Bosscat
Now for 61-3 wood run out Williamson :D

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:08 pm
by Bosscat
69-4 Taylor run out....

New Zealand wheels falling off.

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:09 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
Has Rashid borrowed someone elses arm ?

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:13 pm
by Hibsclaret
claret10 wrote:Williamson out....surprised they gave that....looked a bit inconclusive although I'm sure he did touch it.....lucky wicket nonetheless
Very lucky.

Not sure how it can be inconclusive if you’re sure he touched it. If he touched it that would be out without doubt

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:15 pm
by claret10
Hibsclaret wrote:Very lucky.

Not sure how it can be inconclusive if you’re sure he touched it. If he touched it that would be out without doubt
Badly worded on my part.....I meant I am sure that Wood knows he touched it....but from the video umpire point of view it was a big one to overturn...although on one angle it did look clearer than the others

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:17 pm
by Bosscat
Hibsclaret wrote:Very lucky.

Not sure how it can be inconclusive if you’re sure he touched it. If he touched it that would be out without doubt
You can see the deflection after the finger in two ways...

Slight change in angle after hitting finger and also in slow motion the seam spin alters as the ball hits the finger tip.

A very unlucky (for NZ) way to be out and a very lucky (for us) run out but as everyone knows you have to make your own luck..... Wood a belter of a cricketer :)

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:18 pm
by ClaretTony
And another daft run out followed.

Currently 79/4 in 19th over

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:18 pm
by Hibsclaret
Bosscat wrote:You can see the deflection after the finger in two ways...

Slight change in angle after hitting finger and also in slow motion the seam spin alters as the ball hits the finger tip.

A very unlucky (for NZ) way to be out and a very lucky (for us) run out but as everyone knows you have to make your own luck..... Wood a belter of a cricketer :)
And he hasn’t been offside once yet....

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:40 pm
by Bosscat
Wood strikes again Neesham drags on 123-5

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:47 pm
by tiger76
Game over.

Australia,India,New Zealand and England the 4 semi-finalists.

Australia and India jockeying for top spot,if it stays as is.

It'll be

Australia v England

India v New Zealand

Surely England's SF misery has to end sometime doesn't it.

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:50 pm
by Hibsclaret
More likely to be England v India I think...

Rather them than the Aussies...but not sure they will whimper out like the other day in a semi

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:52 pm
by LeadBelly
Is there a point where NZ decide to not chase the total because, say, being AO for 170/180 would so badly hit their net run-rate that they'd be in danger of maybe being overtaken by a big Pakistan win? Then they'd be better off just getting 4/5 leisurely runs an over for the next 22 overs and forgetting trying to win today?

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:55 pm
by Bosscat
Grandhomme caught off Stokes 1st ball caught by Rooooooooot

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 5:32 pm
by MACCA
Start the car.
Going through the motions here

Re: England New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 5:44 pm
by Bosscat
Latham gloves pne to Butler ... 7 down