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Crouch - Dyche comments regarding him signing

Post by claretcarrot93 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:36 pm

Crouch, reportedly, has a lucrative offer on the table in China as well, and Dyche said this morning: “I’ve spoken to him a couple of times, but it’s up to him to decide what he wants to do.

“He’s just had another child and he has a lot of media as well.

“I spoke to him last week, and told him to let me know his thoughts, but beyond this week, we would have to know his decision one way or another.

“We enjoyed having him with us, and he did well in the time he had. He’s kept himself fit, and he would be welcome back.”
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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding his signing

Post by burnleymik » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:40 pm

Please no...

Good luck in China Crouchy.
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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding his signing

Post by Murger » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:42 pm

Amateur at best. Waiting for a 38 year old to make a decision is holding up our transfer business.
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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding his signing

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:46 pm

“We enjoyed having him with us, and he did well in the time he had. He’s kept himself fit, and he would be welcome back.”

Did well!!!!!? Joke.

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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding his signing

Post by Nonayforever » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:47 pm

what planet is Dyche on ?

He is brilliant in one respect and totally confusing in another.
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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding him signing

Post by WestMidsClaret » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:50 pm

Maybe he meant Crouch "did well" by changing the bulbs in the changing rooms without needing a ladder.
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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding him signing

Post by ZizkovClaret » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:51 pm

We look like a desperate lad waiting for his date to come back from the loos when its clear she went out the back entrance and is on tinder again already....
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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding him signing

Post by Blackrod » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:51 pm

Way past it.

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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding him signing

Post by Winstonswhite » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:52 pm

So, is he under contract, or has he been offered one and is deciding?

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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding him signing

Post by ZizkovClaret » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:56 pm

Sean Dyche spooted earlier:

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Post by WestMidsClaret » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:59 pm

Exiting the back entrance :shock:

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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding him signing

Post by jedi_master » Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:08 pm

Cannot believe we tried to keep him.

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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding him signing

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:10 pm

Maybe he’s doing his mate a favour and trying to prompt other teams into making a move.

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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding him signing

Post by theroyaldyche » Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:22 pm

only thing he kept fit is his mrs

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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding him signing

Post by Spike » Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:25 pm

if he doesn't want to come then so be it. if he doesn't go on the Training camp then for me he can Blog off!

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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding him signing

Post by CombatClaret » Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:28 pm

If I were him I'd hang up the boots and go heavy on the media work, try and get regular presenting with BBC/Sky/BT. It's not like he needs anymore footballing exposure, he's already a household name. He made headlines when he came and will make headlines when he retires but he'll get none sat on our bench unless he comes on and scores a brace in 90th minute.

China while I'm sure would be a great last paycheck takes him out of the UK circles, out of sight out of mind.

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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding him signing

Post by Dyched » Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:30 pm

If were hanging around for a 38 year old past it to make a decision, I dread to think who our next choice is.

What’s Jason Roberts up too nowadays?

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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding him signing

Post by dsr » Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:44 pm

There are a surprising lot of people who don't like or trust Dyche.

For the benefit of those who don't know, the point of Crouch is to come on as a late sub when we're level or losing to give us an enormous target man who will cause mayhem in the penalty area. That's it. Anyone who thinks Dyche is trying to sign him to lead the line and play full games and to replace any other potential forward - have another think.
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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding him signing

Post by Rumpelstiltskin » Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:50 pm

dsr wrote:There are a surprising lot of people who don't like or trust Dyche.

For the benefit of those who don't know, the point of Crouch is to come on as a late sub when we're level or losing to give us an enormous target man who will cause mayhem in the penalty area. That's it. Anyone who thinks Dyche is trying to sign him to lead the line and play full games and to replace any other potential forward - have another think.

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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding him signing

Post by Rumpelstiltskin » Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:51 pm

So let’s go for Ronnie Jepson then!

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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding him signing

Post by summitclaret » Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:54 pm

dsr wrote:There are a surprising lot of people who don't like or trust Dyche.

For the benefit of those who don't know, the point of Crouch is to come on as a late sub when we're level or losing to give us an enormous target man who will cause mayhem in the penalty area. That's it. Anyone who thinks Dyche is trying to sign him to lead the line and play full games and to replace any other potential forward - have another think.
How can anyone think letting vokes go and replacing him with Crouch for season 19/20 would make sense. No wonder the term happy clapper is still relevant.
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Post by snapcrackleandpop » Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:02 pm

Absolutely sums up our transfer windows of late, spent nearly £30,000,000 last season on 3 players to sit on the bench. Now we are waiting for a 38yr old has been to decide if he fancy's us or not - Amateur.

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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding him signing

Post by dsr » Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:03 pm

summitclaret wrote:How can anyone think letting vokes go and replacing him with Crouch for season 19/20 would make sense. No wonder the term happy clapper is still relevant.
I don't know. Who says it would make sense? I reckon the point of Crouch is to come on as a late sub when we're level or losing to give us an enormous target man who will cause mayhem in the penalty area. That's it. Anyone who thinks Dyche is trying to sign him to lead the line and play full games and to replace any other potential forward - have another think. Didn't I say something like that before?

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Post by bumba » Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:06 pm

dsr wrote:There are a surprising lot of people who don't like or trust Dyche.

For the benefit of those who don't know, the point of Crouch is to come on as a late sub when we're level or losing to give us an enormous target man who will cause mayhem in the penalty area. That's it. Anyone who thinks Dyche is trying to sign him to lead the line and play full games and to replace any other potential forward - have another think.
In his 6 sub appearances he made a difference in a positive way just once the other 5 were negative
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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding him signing

Post by AlargeClaret » Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:09 pm

Be funny if he banged in 10 next season .SD only ever really gave him cameos.He’d be experienced back up nothing more .

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Post by aggi » Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:24 pm

dsr wrote:There are a surprising lot of people who don't like or trust Dyche.

For the benefit of those who don't know, the point of Crouch is to come on as a late sub when we're level or losing to give us an enormous target man who will cause mayhem in the penalty area. That's it. Anyone who thinks Dyche is trying to sign him to lead the line and play full games and to replace any other potential forward - have another think.
I don't think anyone thinks we're signing Crouch to play full games. What a lot would disagree with is that when we need a late sub when we're level or losing the best choice is Crouch. His mayhem in the box boiled down to one penalty and generally we were replacing a target man with a target man. It's not like we're taking a nippy striker off and changing things about, we're taking off a 6'3" striker and replacing him with a 6'7" striker.

And the trouble is that Dyche appears to view this as the solution every time. Against Leicester at home for instance we were up against two slow centre halfs who were good in the air and yet we still put Crouch on.
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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding him signing

Post by LaLigaClaret » Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:28 pm

If Crouch is actively under consideration for this season then heaven help us. The club clearly doesn't seem to have any ambition in improving our strike force. If you add this to the speculation regarding Jagielka then we will be seen as a laughing stock and relegation will be a major possibility especially if Tarks is sold. Things must be really desperate if we couldn't get Dawson for £5.5M yet are now speculating on Jagielka. What the hell is happening at our club ? Are we really that potless ?
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Post by Hibsclaret » Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:29 pm

Nonayforever wrote:what planet is Dyche on ?

He is brilliant in one respect and totally the greatest in another.
Fixed it for you...
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Re: Crouch - Dyche comments regarding him signing

Post by dsr » Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:46 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:If Crouch is actively under consideration for this season then heaven help us. The club clearly doesn't seem to have any ambition in improving our strike force. If you add this to the speculation regarding Jagielka then we will be seen as a laughing stock and relegation will be a major possibility especially if Tarks is sold. Things must be really desperate if we couldn't get Dawson for £5.5M yet are now speculating on Jagielka. What the hell is happening at our club ? Are we really that potless ?
You can't blame the club for the speculation about Jagielka. If people who ought to have more idea post rubbish about a man we were never going to sign, and other people choose to laugh, what's the club supposed to do? Unless we provide a full and detailed list of all our transfer targets and exact stage of negotiations with each, fools are going to laugh. Ignore them.

(And if missing out on Dawson is bad, surely missing out on Jagielka is worse?)

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Post by FCBurnley » Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:51 pm

Still cant believe we swapped him and a few quid for Vokes. Stoke must love us.

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Post by Long Time Lurker » Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:08 pm

dsr wrote:There are a surprising lot of people who don't like or trust Dyche.

For the benefit of those who don't know, the point of Crouch is to come on as a late sub when we're level or losing to give us an enormous target man who will cause mayhem in the penalty area. That's it. Anyone who thinks Dyche is trying to sign him to lead the line and play full games and to replace any other potential forward - have another think.
If we don't bring anyone else in and anything should happen to Wood or Barnes then Crouch WOULD be leading the line as a regular 90 min starter ( based on last seasons pecking order ).

If we do bring someone else in then arguably we don't need him.

Every player in the squad has to be capable of challenging for a 90 minute week in week out shirt. We can't afford 15 minute specialists who swallow up all of our substitutions to change our setup to one that suits the way they play. Especially, when they fail to deliver on the back of that.

I've said it before, Crouch lacks mobility and pace. Neither of those things have been the biggest part of his game so age hasn't seen his performance decline to the same extent as others. However, everyone else has moved on and the speed of play in the Premier league has consistently increased. He hasn't taken a huge step back, but changing requirements have diminished his overall effectiveness and rendered him obsolete at the highest level.

Relying on Crouch to "shake things up" makes us very predictable. As a "weapon" he is the equivalent of a blunt spear when the game has moved on to favour long bows. Not replacing him is very risky and bringing in another player and keeping him around is an expense that we don't need to carry.
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Post by tiger76 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:12 pm

FCBurnley wrote:Still cant believe we swapped him and a few quid for Vokes. Stoke must love us.
I had no problem in cashing in on Vokes and getting Crouch as a stopgap for a few months,but surely we should be spending the money we got for Sam and the payment we'll receive for Danny Ings transfer to the Saints on a forward that can really challenge Barnes and Wood,as good a combination as they are,if either was to be out long-term,we'll really struggle to compete.

Vydra is out of favour for whatever reason,Wells is likely to move on this summer,and i presume Agyei isn't seen as a contender for a first team place yet,i doubt he'll even make our 25 man squad let alone the first 11.

I'm baffled we're waiting on Crouch to decide his future,before we do our summer business.
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Post by Giftonsnoidea » Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:14 pm

Unbelievably poor

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Post by dsr » Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:16 pm

Long Time Lurker wrote:If we don't bring anyone else in and anything should happen to Wood or Barnes then Crouch WOULD be leading the line as a regular 90 min starter ( based on last seasons pecking order ).
Vydra made more starts than Crouch, and Vydra would get the start ahead of Crouch if Barnes or Wood was injured.

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Post by jrgbfc » Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:17 pm

So Vydra can't get a look in despite being a full part of the squad, training regularly etc but Dyche is perfectly happy for his mate Crouchy to mess us around until he decides whether or not he can be bothered to sign for us. Our transfer windows just get better and better.

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Post by Murger » Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:18 pm

Confirmed on Twitter he's got a punditry gig.

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:32 pm

Careful not to criticise the club's transfer business or you may be accused of saying the board are doing a bad job. I don't think overall they do a bad job, but when it comes to transfer windows they take the **** time and time again.

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:46 pm

Burnley need top class athletes , preferably young, preferably keen and hungry to fight like hell all season , even if he was an able sub for 10 mins, its nowhere near good enough for us.
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Post by claret2018 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:53 pm

Presuming that Wood and Barnes are the preferred pairing up front, that leaves us (potentially) with Wells, Vydra and Crouch as back-up. That's not terrible is it?

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Post by Papabendi » Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:01 pm

it looks fairy obvious that he won't be coming back.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:12 pm

Murger wrote:Confirmed on Twitter he's got a punditry gig.
For a week.

DSR- I enjoyed Crouch coming on for a few minutes, but it turned into a pantomime. An expensive one at that.

He will of already taken a million quid in wages off us.

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Post by Murger » Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:17 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:For a week.

DSR- I enjoyed Crouch coming on for a few minutes, but it turned into a pantomime. An expensive one at that.

He will of already taken a million quid in wages off us.
Where does it say a week? It's a new show starting in August.

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Post by summitclaret » Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:17 pm

claret2018 wrote:Presuming that Wood and Barnes are the preferred pairing up front, that leaves us (potentially) with Wells, Vydra and Crouch as back-up. That's not terrible is it?
Not far off terrible and certainty not good enough. Wells is not and was never going to be. Vydra for some reason not fancied by Sean and Crouch would be taking the **** if resigned.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:29 pm

Murger wrote:Where does it say a week? It's a new show starting in August.
His own words in the tweet
https://twitter.com/petercrouch/status/ ... 06752?s=09" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Take that back I have mis read it.

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Post by kentonclaret » Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:32 pm

Maintaining our PL status means that we can now afford a full season of Peter Crouch. :twisted:

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Post by KRBFC » Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:02 pm

dsr wrote:There are a surprising lot of people who don't like or trust Dyche.

For the benefit of those who don't know, the point of Crouch is to come on as a late sub when we're level or losing to give us an enormous target man who will cause mayhem in the penalty area. That's it. Anyone who thinks Dyche is trying to sign him to lead the line and play full games and to replace any other potential forward - have another think.
Hahahahhahahahaahha you have completely lost the plot

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Post by summitclaret » Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:12 pm

dsr wrote:There are a surprising lot of people who don't like or trust Dyche.

For the benefit of those who don't know, the point of Crouch is to come on as a late sub when we're level or losing to give us an enormous target man who will cause mayhem in the penalty area. That's it. Anyone who thinks Dyche is trying to sign him to lead the line and play full games and to replace any other potential forward - have another think.
Anyone who thinks if we signed Crouch and kept Vydra that we would also sign another quality striker us deluded.

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Post by CoolClaret » Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:21 pm

dsr wrote:There are a surprising lot of people who don't like or trust Dyche.

For the benefit of those who don't know, the point of Crouch is to come on as a late sub when we're level or losing to give us an enormous target man who will cause mayhem in the penalty area. That's it. Anyone who thinks Dyche is trying to sign him to lead the line and play full games and to replace any other potential forward - have another think.
Except when we were 1-1 against 10 men Leicester absolutely desperate for points & then brought Crouchy on @ 70 (instead of Vydra) which played into Evans & Morgan's hands allowing them to sit back and head out all the mindless lumps up into the box... Which ultimately lead to their goal on the counter attack....

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Post by jojomk1 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:28 pm

dsr wrote:There are a surprising lot of people who don't like or trust Dyche.

For the benefit of those who don't know, the point of Crouch is to come on as a late sub when we're level or losing to give us an enormous target man who will cause mayhem in the penalty area. That's it.
The other point is many would rather see us spend the money on a striker who would be good enough to start most games

If pumping aimless balls up to Wood and Barnes isn't working in a game then aiming them even higher for Crouch doesn't seem like a well thought out plan B to me

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:49 pm

jojomk1 wrote:The other point is many would rather see us spend the money on a striker who would be good enough to start most games

If pumping aimless balls up to Wood and Barnes isn't working in a game then aiming them even higher for Crouch doesn't seem like a well thought out plan B to me
If the new striker is good enough to start most games, who would you drop out of Barnes and Wood?

Also, we already know Barnes and Wood can score goals when they get the right service, I'd rather we spent the money on creative wingers/midfielders who are good enough to start most games (and less injury prone)
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