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Northamptonshire v Lancs

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:45 pm

A tough morning for the Red Rose having chosen to bowl,Northants are 104-1 at lunch,even worse is Bohannon has gone off with a knee injury.

And further woe is that Jimmy will miss this game and the Sussex game,that doesn't leave him much time to recover for the 1st test.

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Re: Northamptonshire v Lancs

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:53 pm

What’s happened to Tom Bailey?

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Re: Northamptonshire v Lancs

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:28 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:What’s happened to Tom Bailey?
Dunno just noticed he's not in the line-up,bloody hell they're dropping like flies at Lancs these days,a lot on Onion and Mahmood's shoulders,i hate to say it,but we'll do well to emerge with a draw from this one,they look like building a huge 1st innings total.

A good test for our beleaguered batting line-up to answer their critics,about time Jennings and Hameed came to the fore,i don't know why we elected to bowl first up,but it looks a bad decision.

Just got a 2nd wicket so 134-2 now,still question the choice to insert,unless it's spinning cartwheels or a real seamer,i'd always bat first,this could be down to Vilas lacking trust in the batting.

Edit 138-3 now,hope the conditions aren't changing to favour the bowlers,2 new batsman at the crease,Lancs need to take advantage.

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Re: Northamptonshire v Lancs

Post by Leisure » Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:44 pm

154 for 4.

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Post by Leisure » Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:37 pm

Now 255 for 4.

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Re: Northamptonshire v Lancs

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:04 pm

287-4 this is a match-changing partnership i fear.

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Re: Northamptonshire v Lancs

Post by Leisure » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:29 pm

310 for 5. Bavuma out for 103.

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Post by jdrobbo » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:10 pm

Play for a good draw and get as many bonus points as we can - then get out of there.

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Re: Northamptonshire v Lancs

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:11 pm

What on earth are we doing putting s team in on a wicket where they get 300 plus for 5?

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Re: Northamptonshire v Lancs

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:19 pm

ClaretTony wrote:What on earth are we doing putting s team in on a wicket where they get 300 plus for 5?
Ask the skip CT,especially when our bowling options are limited without Jimmy.

They've batted us out of the game on day one.

The best we can hope for is a draw now.

334-5 at the close.

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Re: Northamptonshire v Lancs

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:27 pm

Teams virtually always batted first when they got the option. You only put teams in if there is a massive advantage to bowl first.

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Re: Northamptonshire v Lancs

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:31 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Teams virtually always batted first when they got the option. You only put teams in if there is a massive advantage to bowl first.
The golden rule is bat first,or think again and still bat first.

We'll see what the Lancs batters are made off staring down a total of 400+.

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Re: Northamptonshire v Lancs

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:33 pm

tiger76 wrote:The golden rule is bat first,or think again and still bat first.
Spot on for me is that. Had we gone for the toss and lost we could have still had to bowl first but to hand it to them is crazy.

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Re: Northamptonshire v Lancs

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:02 pm

Time for Jennings and Hameed to dig in and get some runs.

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Post by Foulthrow » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:41 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Time for Jennings and Hameed to dig in and get some runs.
Good luck with that then. I bet Vilas doesn't bother to take the pads off these days once he's finished keeping wicket.
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Re: Northamptonshire v Lancs

Post by Foulthrow » Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:13 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Time for Jennings and Hameed to dig in and get some runs.
Jennings gone for a duck. Hameed will probably join him soon.

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:15 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Time for Jennings and Hameed to dig in and get some runs.
Well maybe Hameed

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Post by dpinsussex » Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:24 pm

Foulthrow wrote:Jennings gone for a duck. Hameed will probably join him soon.
He has 6-2
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Re: Northamptonshire v Lancs

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:32 pm

Bloody hell, these two need to be shipped out.
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Post by Foulthrow » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:08 pm

dpinsussex wrote:He has 6-2
Good grief.

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Post by Foulthrow » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:09 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Bloody hell, these two need to be shipped out.
Are Lancashire being told by the ECB that they have to play them? How else can you explain them not being dropped?

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:10 pm

Partial recovery from the now familiar Jennings/Hameed disaster - we've reached 59/2.

Surely there is no way Jennings will be considered for the test squad now.

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Re: Northamptonshire v Lancs

Post by LeadBelly » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:24 pm

Both Jennings and Hameed got ducks in the last CC innings Lancs played too (2nd innings v Durham), we were 0-2 then; at least we got to 2-2 today (thanks to Davies).
I'm remembering an old joke that a Glos supporting mate had back in the mid 70s re their batsman Jim Foat who was going through a bad patch- he claimed may as well change his name to Photo.

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Re: Northamptonshire v Lancs

Post by tiger76 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:28 pm

Foulthrow wrote:Are Lancashire being told by the ECB that they have to play them? How else can you explain them not being dropped?
They've got to be dropped,we can't keep picking players on reputation alone,if nothing else it'll send a message to the rest of the squad that no-one is immune from the push.

Both need to go back to 2nd 11 cricket and rebuild their games,you'd think with their talent scores would come at that level,and their confidence will return.

We might as well just have 9 batters for all the use they are just now.
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Re: Northamptonshire v Lancs

Post by tiger76 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:36 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Partial recovery from the now familiar Jennings/Hameed disaster - we've reached 59/2.

Surely there is no way Jennings will be considered for the test squad now.
I thought Jason Roy was going to open in the tests,heaven knows who with,Burns i suppose,i can see an SOS going out to a young chap by the name of Cook.

It's incredible how sparse England are for genuine quality openers,Starc and co will be licking their lips come August.

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Re: Northamptonshire v Lancs

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:50 pm

tiger76 wrote:I thought Jason Roy was going to open in the tests,heaven knows who with,Burns i suppose,i can see an SOS going out to a young chap by the name of Cook.

It's incredible how sparse England are for genuine quality openers,Starc and co will be licking their lips come August.
I didn't know this but Roy has never played a test match. They can't keep Jennings in though, it has to be Roy.

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:03 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/tea ... e/averages" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Makes for appalling reading.

Look at the three Aussies as well.

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Post by dpinsussex » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:49 pm

Meanwhile the other opener is sat at103* good effort that man

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Post by bfcmik » Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:17 pm

211/4 at stumps, Smith 124* with Croft 38* have an 80 stand going into the 3rd day

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Post by tybfc » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:08 pm

Lancs 308/9 so gain a third batting point but may do well to hold on to their unbeaten run.

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:11 pm

tybfc wrote:Lancs 308/9 so gain a third batting point but may do well to hold on to their unbeaten run.
At least we’ve avoided the follow on to spare Jennings & Hameed another early exit for now.

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:17 pm

Last five wickets go for 25 runs.

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:22 pm

On a clearly good track only four players got double figures

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Post by tybfc » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:34 pm

ClaretTony wrote:On a clearly good track only four players got double figures
One got three figures :D :D
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Post by tybfc » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:35 pm

And he was born in the same town as me.

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Post by lakedistrictclaret » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:36 pm

Dane Vilas, our best batsmam, stranded on 27 not out coming in at number seven!

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:36 pm

tybfc wrote:And he was born in the same town as me.
He didn’t get it right with the football though :D

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Post by tybfc » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:13 pm

14/2 in the second innings

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Post by dpinsussex » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:29 pm

31-3

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Post by tiger76 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:13 pm

56-3 now,still approaching a lead of nearly 200,can't see Lancs chasing whatever they set batting last.

Remind me why the bloody hell did we insert them on the first morning :roll:

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Post by tybfc » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:21 pm

A good result for Yorkshire. Their players can all have a lie in tomorrow.

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Post by dpinsussex » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:35 pm

Lead nearly at 300. However breaking news. Hameed has done something useful albeit not with the bat. He ran one of the opposition out :)

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:43 pm

Too many for us now. Will we be starting at 0/2?

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Post by dpinsussex » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:57 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Too many for us now. Will we be starting at 0/2?
Sadly I think you are correct

Target will be bat tomorrow out. Let's hope for some rain

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Post by tiger76 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:32 pm

dpinsussex wrote:Sadly I think you are correct

Target will be bat tomorrow out. Let's hope for some rain
I'm surprised Northants have batted as long as they have,guess they'll either declare first thing,or have a quick dart for half/hour in the morning.

Doesn't really matter Lancs will never bat out the day,judging by the forecast the weather won't be coming to our aid,not that we deserve it too after this shambolic display.

Unless Jennings and Hameed produce match-saving runs tomorrow(fat chance) :lol: they have to be benched to use football speak,it might be worth promoting Vilas to open,he's our most in form player,and we might avoid being 2 down for nothing,just a thought.

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Post by tybfc » Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:03 am

tiger76 wrote:I'm surprised Northants have batted as long as they have,guess they'll either declare first thing,or have a quick dart for half/hour in the morning.

Doesn't really matter Lancs will never bat out the day,judging by the forecast the weather won't be coming to our aid,not that we deserve it too after this shambolic display.

Unless Jennings and Hameed produce match-saving runs tomorrow(fat chance) :lol: they have to be benched to use football speak,it might be worth promoting Vilas to open,he's our most in form player,and we might avoid being 2 down for nothing,just a thought.
Watched both of these batters in the nets and the practise areas recently before their Lancs games and they both seemed on top of their games and enjoying it with the rest of the team.

It is strange that both such talented batsmen have lost form at the same time.

Would dropping them suit the Club or would perseverance be the better option?

I would stick with the latter. They are a team that are going to be promoted and seem to all want to be together.

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Post by Foulthrow » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:14 am

Even if Lancashire do get promoted it will be straight back down unless they sort the batting out.

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Post by CleggHall » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:24 am

Agreed but good batsmen are in short supply in county cricket, just look at Yorkshire's!

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Post by tiger76 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:56 am

tybfc wrote:Watched both of these batters in the nets and the practise areas recently before their Lancs games and they both seemed on top of their games and enjoying it with the rest of the team.

It is strange that both such talented batsmen have lost form at the same time.

Would dropping them suit the Club or would perseverance be the better option?

I would stick with the latter. They are a team that are going to be promoted and seem to all want to be together.
But how long do you persevere,it's not like they're getting 30/40's.looking decent for a hour or so and then getting out,at least in that scenario you could see a light at the end of the tunnel.

Their last 4 CC innings combined this duo have faced 21 balls and failed to trouble the scorers,now if this was a blip i could accept that,all batsman have their spells of failure,but this has been going on since last year.

Just checking out their recent form.in his last 13 innings for Lancs Hameed hasn't passed 30,Jennings is slightly better he at least has some scores this season,but after a promising run until the end of May,his last 7 CC innings include 4 ducks,this must erode their confidence,which is why i suggested some 2nd 11 action,at least then they might be able to play themselves back into form,and crucially get some time at the crease.

Is Lancs squad so threadbare that there isn't anyone who can step up and take their place,i hope they can at least show some fight today,and make the bowlers work for their wickets,but i'm not holding my breath.

It's such a shame Hammeed picked up that injury when he did,as he was poised to be Cookie's natural successor,Jennings has lost his confidence and test bowlers have noted his weakness outside off-stump,and against pace,at that level there's no hiding place i'm afraid.

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Re: Northamptonshire v Lancs

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:00 pm

They’ve set us 391 to win or the rest of the day to survive.

Currently 15/0 with Jennings on 5.

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