Aston Villa - another BOOM !!!!!!!!!

s6t9a2f3f · Post by **s6t9a2f3f** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:47 pm

Aston Villa have agreed a fee which could rise to £25m with Bournemouth for the signing of defender Tyrone Mings, according to Sky sources.

Mings is expected to complete contract negotiations with the newly-promoted Premier League side by Monday.

WAKEY, WAKEY CLARETS

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:51 pm

Credit where it's due to Howe.

Not only can he spot a player, he can spot a club willing to buy the duffers from him...

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:51 pm

We're signing Erik Pieters on a one year deal, haven't you heard?

BOOM? No, maybe not.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:51 pm

Dont think we wanted Mings....show some patience young fella

s6t9a2f3f · Post by **s6t9a2f3f** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:53 pm

ksrclaret wrote:We're signing Erik Pieters on a one year deal, haven't you heard?

BOOM? No, maybe not.

Please re-sign Crouchy want my first Clarets BOOM

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:56 pm

s6t9a2f3f wrote:Please re-sign Crouchy want my first Clarets BOOM

Imagine if we announce Crouchy and Pieters on the same day?

I think I'd go all Basil Brush

A HA HA HA BOOM BOOM

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:57 pm

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dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:00 pm

How frigging much ??

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:01 pm

ksrclaret wrote:We're signing Erik Pieters on a one year deal, haven't you heard?

BOOM? No, maybe not.

And you really think Tyrone Mings is a good player?

Strewth!

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:04 pm

dpinsussex wrote:How frigging much ??

About 100 Ben Mee's.

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:05 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:About 100 Ben Mee's.

If only we had 100 Ben Mees

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:06 pm

Spijed wrote:And you really think Tyrone Mings is a good player?

Strewth!

If you read my comment again, you'll see no reference to my opinion on Tyrone Mings' abilities.

You're really having chicken lasagne for tea? That's disgusting Spijed.

s6t9a2f3f · Post by **s6t9a2f3f** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:10 pm

Spijed wrote:And you really think Tyrone Mings is a good player?

Strewth!

Not particularly but strange that Villa who will be in a lower half of the league, most probably flirting with a relegation battle like us are NOT sending out the same message as us ? players and agents are waiting until last minute (waffle, waffle, waffle) - heres the players we have highlighted, here's the money, its only 7th july and BOOM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:11 pm

Spijed wrote:And you really think Tyrone Mings is a good player?

Strewth!

Not a £25 million player,plus he's only played 17 PL games in 4 years for Bournemouth,hardly a mainstay of their starting 11.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:11 pm

Stay on topic Spijed we're not interested in what youre having for tea today

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:14 pm

s6t9a2f3f wrote:Not particularly but strange that Villa who will be in a lower half of the league, most probably flirting with a relegation battle like us are NOT sending out the same message as us ? players and agents are waiting until last minute (waffle, waffle, waffle) - heres the players we have highlighted, here's the money, its only 7th july and BOOM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't think it's anything to do with how loud you shout.

You can be as quiet as a mouse and under the radar sign 2-3 players good enough to strengthen your team. Look at the embarrassing Fulham last season - fecked their promotion winning team all over and signed pretty much a new first eleven - dropped like a hotpot. The most embarrassing relegation in the history of the Premier League and hope they stay down forever.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:14 pm

s6t9a2f3f wrote:Not particularly but strange that Villa who will be in a lower half of the league, most probably flirting with a relegation battle like us are NOT sending out the same message as us ? players and agents are waiting until last minute (waffle, waffle, waffle) - heres the players we have highlighted, here's the money, its only 7th july and BOOM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They've overpaid for him though.

He suffered that bad leg injury and didn't look the same player again, so eventually Bournemouth loaned him out.

He's made 40 appearances in 4 years, Inc 15 in the championship and he's bizarrely been sold for up to £26 million dependent on clauses etc.

I know you like to have a sulk about our transfer business but banging out a **** over this deal is just stupid, even for you and this forum.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:15 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I don't think it's anything to do with how loud you shout.

You can be as quiet as a mouse and under the radar sign 2-3 players good enough to strengthen your team. Look at the embarrassing Fulham last season - fecked their promotion winning team all over and signed pretty much a new first eleven - dropped like a hotpot. The most embarrassing relegation in the history of the Premier League and hope they stay down forever.

Nah I still think Derby is the worst.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:15 pm

The op does know Villa have an owner who's worth billions,this may just help their spending spree.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:17 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Nah I still think Derby is the worst.

They came up and pretty much knew they were going down. People accepted it. The way Fulham came up and dropped was hilarious.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:56 pm

s6t9a2f3f wrote:Not particularly but strange that Villa who will be in a lower half of the league, most probably flirting with a relegation battle like us are NOT sending out the same message as us ? players and agents are waiting until last minute (waffle, waffle, waffle) - heres the players we have highlighted, here's the money, its only 7th july and BOOM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If they are prepared to spend 26 million on a crock what message do ypu get....
25 PL apps in 4 years doesn't make a good signing for me....

Alao its more a soft "pop" than a "BOOM"

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:00 pm

Given the current prices £20m (not sure where the £25m has come from, all the stories seem to say £20m) for Mings doesn't seem unrealistic. Particularly as Villa have had him and know his ability

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:41 pm

They seem to be keen to keep the team that came up: El Ghazi signed on a permanent basis, Hause and now Mings.

TBH saw Mings play a few times last season and looked decent - yes, Championship I know - plus can play full-back or in the centre.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:47 pm

I think some people need to get how difficult it is for us to compete financially at this level?
Mings is at the very least a bit of a gamble, and a loose cannon, anyone who thinks we should be in the market for this type of player is dillusional.

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:50 pm

Bournemouth have had Villa's pants down on this one. £25 million

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:05 pm

aggi wrote:Given the current prices £20m (not sure where the £25m has come from, all the stories seem to say £20m) for Mings doesn't seem unrealistic. Particularly as Villa have had him and know his ability

I've read £25 million Inc add-ons, so I'm guessing it's £20 million for starters

MRG · Post by **MRG** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:10 pm

tiger76 wrote:The op does know Villa have an owner who's worth billions,this may just help their spending spree.

And yet if anybody on here suggests that us getting a rich owner would be a good thing, they are told we would then be the next Bolton, Portsmouth, Rovers etc

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:10 pm

Booms always precede bust.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:20 pm

MRG wrote:And yet if anybody on here suggests that us getting a rich owner would be a good thing, they are told we would then be the next Bolton, Portsmouth, Rovers etc

Randy Lerner was worth a few billion wasn't he?

That ended really well for Villa...

s6t9a2f3f · Post by **s6t9a2f3f** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:15 pm

boatshed bill wrote:I think some people need to get how difficult it is for us to compete financially at this level?
Mings is at the very least a bit of a gamble, and a loose cannon, anyone who thinks we should be in the market for this type of player is dillusional.

Thats the whole point !!!!! 4th year on the trot in the premiership and we have no level ??? course we have a level so why not work cleverly and quicker in the level we can compete at even if that means lower championship, top end of division 1, etc etc whatever level we need to be at. We signed Andre Gray as a championship club in August 2015 for 9m - now 4 years on (3 as a premiership club with another season pending in premiership) we still have not got the measure of what level we should be looking at ?

s6t9a2f3f · Post by **s6t9a2f3f** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:21 pm

boatshed bill wrote:I think some people need to get how difficult it is for us to compete financially at this level?
Mings is at the very least a bit of a gamble, and a loose cannon, anyone who thinks we should be in the market for this type of player is dillusional.

One thing is for sure we have gone backwards because in theory if a Andre Gray came on the market now for 8-10m playing for a championship club we would not land him - why ? because we would alert the world first by a low unrealistic bid ad then get muscled out. A updated verson is the Che Adams situation we never got a sniff for a guy we were interested in 6 months ago and for a position we need to strengthen and a area we desperately needed to add some injection of pace.

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:23 pm

Fee is more like £18m, rising to the headline figure if a load of extras are hit.

A mate of mine is a massive Villa fan, and he reckons Mings was the reason they got promoted

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:31 pm

tiger76 wrote:The op does know Villa have an owner who's worth billions,this may just help their spending spree.

If he’s willing to shell out 25m on Mings, I would suggest Villa’s owner certainly has more money than sense.

Also suggests we’re significantly undervaluing Tarkowski.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:34 pm

s6t9a2f3f wrote:Thats the whole point !!!!! 4th year on the trot in the premiership and we have no level ??? course we have a level so why not work cleverly and quicker in the level we can compete at even if that means lower championship, top end of division 1, etc etc whatever level we need to be at. We signed Andre Gray as a championship club in August 2015 for 9m - now 4 years on (3 as a premiership club with another season pending in premiership) we still have not got the measure of what level we should be looking at ?

We signed him for £6m - it only went up to £9m because of promotion.
The only club we were competing against was Bristol City from what I can remember...Brentford has agreed a deal to sell him to Brizzle.
He’d had a good season at Brentford but it wasn’t that long before that he was at Luton. We all know how raw he was so it was a gamble....a gamble that was a big factor in our promotion and one where we made a big profit on selling him.
Roll it forward to now and I reckon we’d be paying Brentford £12m to £15m and another few million if we got promoted (or avoided relegation from Premier League). That seems to be the going price for someone who had a decent 20 goal season with a bit of pace but for a bottom half championship team where it’s easier to be the stand out player.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:38 pm

Walton wrote:Fee is more like £18m, rising to the headline figure if a load of extras are hit.

A mate of mine is a massive Villa fan, and he reckons Mings was the reason they got promoted

'the reason' Ha ha ha. No one player has ever been 'the reason' a team has been promoted from the Championship.

Probably booed Ashley Westwood, coming out with guff like that.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:45 pm

s6t9a2f3f wrote:One thing is for sure we have gone backwards because in theory if a Andre Gray came on the market now for 8-10m playing for a championship club we would not land him - why ? because we would alert the world first by a low unrealistic bid ad then get muscled out. A updated verson is the Che Adams situation we never got a sniff for a guy we were interested in 6 months ago and for a position we need to strengthen and a area we desperately needed to add some injection of pace.

We just can't afford the players that supporters like you "need", we do not have the budget.
Does anyone who posts on here really believe that Sean Dyche wouldn't love to be able to shop at a higher level than is available to us?

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:49 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:'the reason' Ha ha ha. No one player has ever been 'the reason' a team has been promoted from the Championship.

Probably booed Ashley Westwood, coming out with guff like that.

They conceded 46 goals in 29 games without him, and 17 in the 19 he played after joining.

If someone joined Burnley and had such an effect on the way to promotion, it'd be fair to say they were the reason we'd got promoted.

s6t9a2f3f · Post by **s6t9a2f3f** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:03 am

boatshed bill wrote:We just can't afford the players that supporters like you "need", we do not have the budget.
Does anyone who posts on here really believe that Sean Dyche wouldn't love to be able to shop at a higher level than is available to us?

I have never mentioned players that I feel are realistic / unrealistic, I mentioned Che Adams as a example as we were rumoured to be very interested in him in january, there was no talk back then of headlines like "burnley punching above weight by wanting to buy Che Adams" ??? not 6 months later and a premiership campaign ahead we suddenly are punching out of our depth ? or was the incapability to land the player in january just highlighted the player to several other clubs and we get muscled again come summer like whats happened.
I have no problem with who we try/or bring in but we talk about levels and Manchester United have just bought a player from Swansea City so goodness knows where were looking to strengthen.

keith1879 · Post by **keith1879** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:44 pm

s6t9a2f3f wrote:One thing is for sure we have gone backwards because in theory if a Andre Gray came on the market now for 8-10m playing for a championship club we would not land him - why ? because we would alert the world first by a low unrealistic bid ad then get muscled out. A updated verson is the Che Adams situation we never got a sniff for a guy we were interested in 6 months ago and for a position we need to strengthen and a area we desperately needed to add some injection of pace.

Never mind "in theory"......in practice we signed Andre Gray immediately after being relegated .....we are now embarking on our fourth consecutive season in the Premer League - something we last looked forward to in 1970. This is "going backwards??"

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:47 pm

Walton wrote:They conceded 46 goals in 29 games without him, and 17 in the 19 he played after joining. If someone joined Burnley and had such an effect on the way to promotion, it'd be fair to say they were the reason we'd got promoted.

Could this not have more to do with Dean Smith coming in and shaking up the whole of the team?

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:53 pm

Apparently offered us £7million for Tom

chipbutty · Post by **chipbutty** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:55 pm

s6t9a2f3f wrote:Aston Villa have agreed a fee which could rise to £25m with Bournemouth for the signing of defender Tyrone Mings, according to Sky sources.

Mings is expected to complete contract negotiations with the newly-promoted Premier League side by Monday.

WAKEY, WAKEY CLARETS

Wakey, Fecking wakey! Would you be happy if we had spunked 25 million on Tyrone Mings?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:22 am

TVC15 wrote:We signed him for £6m - it only went up to £9m because of promotion.

It’s funny how we bring up these facts when it’s us signing the players but most posters on here are happy to spout “Villa paying £25M for Mings” it’s more likely Villa are paying £17M for Mings but COULD pay up to £25M in the end of which I’m sure they hope they do end up paying because it would be clauses inserted like remain in the top division.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:24 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:I've read £25 million Inc add-ons, so I'm guessing it's £20 million for starters

You do a whole lot of guessing and assuming, it would be much wiser to actually research yourself to enhance your point.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:28 am

Much has been said on Eddie Howes abilities.However, he has the knack of unloading unwanted poor players for serious money

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:37 am

KRBFC wrote:It’s funny how we bring up these facts when it’s us signing the players but most posters on here are happy to spout “Villa paying £25M for Mings” it’s more likely Villa are paying £17M for Mings but COULD pay up to £25M in the end of which I’m sure they hope they do end up paying because it would be clauses inserted like remain in the top division.

What’s really funny is that you are so stupid that you use the word “likely” above - ie you’ve guessed...and then you criticise another poster for doing a “whole lot of guessing and assuming”

And what’s even funnier is that most reports about the transfer (including the BBC, Guardian, Mirror and others) are saying it’s a £20m up front fee rising to as high as £26.5m with add ons....ie they align to the post you choose to have a dig at.

You’re the gift that never stops giving !

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:43 am

KRBFC wrote:You do a whole lot of guessing and assuming, it would be much wiser to actually research yourself to enhance your point.

After watching your meltdowns over a number of years you're in absolutely no position to tell anyone to do some research.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:43 am

keith1879 wrote:Never mind "in theory"......in practice we signed Andre Gray immediately after being relegated .....we are now embarking on our fourth consecutive season in the Premer League - something we last looked forward to in 1970. This is "going backwards??"

I think you'll find it's the poster who's going backwards more than the club.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:51 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:I think you'll find it's the poster who's going backwards more than the club.

Going ?
He’s been in the same gear as an Italian tank for the last 5 years.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:07 am

I always preferred s6t9a2f3f‘s contributions to this, and the previous MB, when he signed off as Bernie. For some reason he then started sighing off as Brian, and now he doesn’t sign off at all. Unless you count “BOOM!” As his signature.