Tom Heaton

This Forum is the main messageboard to discuss all things Claret and Blue and beyond
Jakubs Tash
Posts: 2587
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:18 pm
Been Liked: 672 times
Has Liked: 244 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Jakubs Tash » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:32 am

tarkys_ears wrote:1) That's a ridiculous comparison.

2) We don't have to sell.
1) I'm not sure it is. Mings has only played 89 games in his entire professional career with 81% on those being in the Championship. Villa have set their own benchmark for fees by agreeing a deal of up to £26m for someone with these career stats.

2) If Heaton doesn't (or isn't willing) to sign a new deal then the need to cash in on him becomes greater. BUT I certainly wouldn't be giving him away.

£15-20m in my opinion.....

Hipper
Posts: 5681
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:33 pm
Been Liked: 1175 times
Has Liked: 918 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Hipper » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:40 am

If we are getting rid of two of the three goalkeepers, why did we let Anders Lindegaard go?

Is Legzdins still at the club?

Woodleyclaret
Posts: 6887
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:25 pm
Been Liked: 1468 times
Has Liked: 1839 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:41 am

Better than Pickford and he was £30m
This user liked this post: mybloodisclaret

creepingdeath
Posts: 147
Joined: Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:44 am
Been Liked: 63 times
Has Liked: 275 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by creepingdeath » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:41 am

Surely we’re in a strong position where we can mess Villa about until they come up with a silly bid much like West Brom have done to us over the years
This user liked this post: rob63

Firthy
Posts: 4966
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:04 am
Been Liked: 1607 times
Has Liked: 275 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Firthy » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:44 am

I think his value isn't financial. It's what he would bring to a rival team in skill, knowledge and confidence.

It's worth keeping him for a year unless the fee is £15m+

dandeclaret
Posts: 3513
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:55 am
Been Liked: 2560 times
Has Liked: 300 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by dandeclaret » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:46 am

All this talk if not being able to keep 2 good keepers happy...... how do all the other clubs do it?

Dyched
Posts: 5938
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:34 am
Been Liked: 1921 times
Has Liked: 446 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Dyched » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:50 am

Because a player was sold for £5000000000000 doesn’t mean Heaton is worth £9000000000000.

So many different things are taken into account. Please understand this. Thanks.

ChorltonCharlie
Posts: 737
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:57 am
Been Liked: 336 times
Has Liked: 75 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by ChorltonCharlie » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:52 am

For a decent fee, I'd be happy to see Heaton leave. Pope is a better keeper and we should be looking to make him first choice. For all the talk of how good Heaton was last season, other than his initial few games I don't think he was sensational. Yes he brought a steadying influence to the team, but I think Pope has shown he has that. It's interesting that in only half a season Heaton made two errors leading directly to goals, for comparison Hart made none.

Darnhill Claret
Posts: 2240
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:55 pm
Been Liked: 498 times
Has Liked: 992 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Darnhill Claret » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:56 am

First offer for a player is going to be low. So £7m should be dismissed out of hand. We know Tom doesn’t like being on the bench but the security of a 3 year contract might help persuade him to sign. If he has set his sights on a final move then we should stand firm for £20m. They’ve told Stoke that they won’t go to £25m for Butland. £20m and a 3 year contract at Villa might suit all parties. Heaton is still a good age for a keeper.

jrgbfc
Posts: 8420
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:30 pm
Been Liked: 2097 times
Has Liked: 336 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:05 am

dandeclaret wrote:All this talk if not being able to keep 2 good keepers happy...... how do all the other clubs do it?
Because the big clubs are playing pretty much 2 games a week with Europe, cup competitions etc. We play about 2 cup games a season.

Rileybobs
Posts: 16681
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:37 pm
Been Liked: 6891 times
Has Liked: 1471 times
Location: Leeds

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:06 am

jrgbfc wrote:Because the big clubs are playing pretty much 2 games a week with Europe, cup competitions etc. We play about 2 cup games a season.
What about the clubs who aren’t competing in Europe?

jrgbfc
Posts: 8420
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:30 pm
Been Liked: 2097 times
Has Liked: 336 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:06 am

Pretty sure Heaton won't fancy a year sat on the bench when at present it seems like he's England's number 2 and Euro 2020 at the end of the season.
This user liked this post: Rumpelstiltskin

Wile E Coyote
Posts: 8507
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:22 pm
Been Liked: 2887 times
Has Liked: 1760 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Wile E Coyote » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:07 am

sure this issue must commonplace at other clubs too, with keepers dividing opinion. It is a dilemma.
Heaton is an incredible keeper in my view, rarely at fault. I was stunned to find out how good pope was when heaton did his shoulder.
ideally we would retain both due to the calibre of both , but players want to strive for number one slots.
I cannot think of better goalkeepers at Burnley in my time watching them.

jrgbfc
Posts: 8420
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:30 pm
Been Liked: 2097 times
Has Liked: 336 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:07 am

Rileybobs wrote:What about the clubs who aren’t competing in Europe?
How many clubs outside the top 6 or 7 have 2 genuinely good goalkeepers?

box_of_frogs
Posts: 4955
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:47 am
Been Liked: 1087 times
Has Liked: 996 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by box_of_frogs » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:21 am

I’d rather we just offered him a 3 year deal if that’s what he wants.
These 3 users liked this post: randomclaret2 Rumpelstiltskin elwaclaret

yosserhughes
Posts: 186
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:18 pm
Been Liked: 36 times
Has Liked: 363 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by yosserhughes » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:26 am

How long has Hart got left on his contract ?

Spijed
Posts: 17112
Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:33 pm
Been Liked: 2892 times
Has Liked: 1294 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Spijed » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:27 am

jrgbfc wrote:How many clubs outside the top 6 or 7 have 2 genuinely good goalkeepers?
Exactly.

Do Wolves, Leicester, Everton have two top class keepers?

tarkys_ears
Posts: 4237
Joined: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:30 pm
Been Liked: 1016 times
Has Liked: 1484 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by tarkys_ears » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:29 am

yosserhughes wrote:How long has Hart got left on his contract ?
A year

TVC15
Posts: 8211
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:09 pm
Been Liked: 3321 times
Has Liked: 601 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by TVC15 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:31 am

dandeclaret wrote:All this talk if not being able to keep 2 good keepers happy...... how do all the other clubs do it?
A few of the big clubs like Chelsea and United have no 2 keepers who seem very happy to be the reserve keeper and are paid handsomely for it....both were no 2 keepers at their previous clubs and have been for many years.
Spurs no 2 keeper signed knowing he would be no 2 and has been in no rush to leave.
Liverpool’s no 2 was regularly dropped and criticised when he was no 1 and the only reason he hasn’t left yet has to be his big contract.
Arsenal no 2 back end of his career and retired after his first full season as no 2.
Etc etc

And whether it’s Heaton or Pope no 2 either is a better keeper than any other teams no 2 IMHO - and both of them (unlike some of the others above) are desperate to play and be no 1. Plus from a purely financial point of view many of the no 2 keepers in the division will be on a lot more money than both of our keepers which must be annoying when you know that you are at the very least as good as them.

England have had good keepers for years - has there ever been a club who have had even 2 England keepers at the same time / let alone 3 ?

It’s just not a sustainable position unless we paid absolutely ridiculous wages to both keepers and even then one of them would have to be happy to not play and harm his international future

Rileybobs
Posts: 16681
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:37 pm
Been Liked: 6891 times
Has Liked: 1471 times
Location: Leeds

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:35 am

Spijed wrote:Exactly.

Do Wolves, Leicester, Everton have two top class keepers?
Wolves and Everton both have 2 good goalkeepers.

Spijed
Posts: 17112
Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:33 pm
Been Liked: 2892 times
Has Liked: 1294 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Spijed » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:45 am

Rileybobs wrote:Wolves and Everton both have 2 good goalkeepers.
But do both goalkeepers at either club think they should be the number one keeper, with aspirations of playing for their respective national team, knowing that a prolonged period on the bench will severely harm their chances?

That's the problem we have that other clubs in the Prem don't have.

CombatClaret
Posts: 4381
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:09 pm
Been Liked: 1825 times
Has Liked: 929 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by CombatClaret » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:46 am

Rick_Muller wrote: Pope signing long term means that he knows the No 1 is his soon enough (either this season if Heaton doesn't perform or gets injured) and he'll keep it for years to come...
If Tom wants to leave, he can go at the end of this season on a free with my blessing, but that's not my decision to make...
So If Pope knows he'll be number 1 and Heaton wants to leave, why drag it out for another season instead of getting cash now?

If it's inevitable as you make it seem then surely now is the best time to get it sorted as everyone gets what they want.

TVC15
Posts: 8211
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:09 pm
Been Liked: 3321 times
Has Liked: 601 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by TVC15 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:51 am

Rileybobs wrote:Wolves and Everton both have 2 good goalkeepers.
Neither are anywhere near competing and it’s hard to know whether they are good or not now given how little either have played in the last 2 or 3 years. The Dutch keeper at Everton had a poor time in his first season and Ruddy played a premier league game last year for the first time in 3 years.
Everton’s no 2 will be on a fortune too given he was the Dutch no 1 and Koeman signed him to be Everton’s no 1. When a keeper doesn’t work out like this (bit like Bravo at City) the clubs are often stuck with them because of their wages.
Very different scenario at ours when you sign someone cheap like we did with Pope and then both keepers are brilliant and lose their place only because of injury rather than loss of form....the only surprise for me is that there hasn’t been a lot more clubs interested in bringing in either of our 2 keepers and taking advantage of our situation

Rileybobs
Posts: 16681
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:37 pm
Been Liked: 6891 times
Has Liked: 1471 times
Location: Leeds

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:53 am

Spijed wrote:But do both goalkeepers at either club think they should be the number one keeper, with aspirations of playing for their respective national team, knowing that a prolonged period on the bench will severely harm their chances?

That's the problem we have that other clubs in the Prem don't have.
Tom Heaton May have aspirations to play for his national team and indeed he is in contention for a place in England’s squad, but he has very little chance of becoming England’s number one whether he’s playing regularly or not.

We think that our goalkeepers are fantastic and we are relatively blessed with talent in that department. But it is nothing unusual to have two players of Heaton and Pope’s ability fighting it out for a place in a Premier League team.

agreenwood
Posts: 3095
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:22 pm
Been Liked: 1712 times
Has Liked: 269 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by agreenwood » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:55 am

Surely Heaton’s only motivation for leaving would be financial?

He’s a first choice keeper and club captain at an established Premier League club. The faith the management team had in him was ultimately demonstrated by his selection over two other England goalkeepers in the second half of last year.

He appears to like Dyche. He appears to have a lot of respect for Mercer. The facilities at the club are now world class. Being at Burnley hasn’t hampered his England ambitions.

He’s putting a lot on the line if he were to leave to pursue a bigger contract.

ClaretTony
Posts: 67422
Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:07 pm
Been Liked: 32237 times
Has Liked: 5253 times
Location: Burnley
Contact:

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:59 am

If Tom wants to leave I can’t see it being anything other than him not playing. But maybe he’s looking beyond next season and seeing a goalkeeper six years younger having signed a four year deal.

Rick_Muller
Posts: 6091
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:53 am
Been Liked: 2619 times
Has Liked: 6416 times
Location: -90.000000, 0.000000

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Rick_Muller » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:00 pm

CombatClaret wrote:So If Pope knows he'll be number 1 and Heaton wants to leave, why drag it out for another season instead of getting cash now?

If it's inevitable as you make it seem then surely now is the best time to get it sorted as everyone gets what they want.
I'm just playing guesswork like everyone else. Pope signed a new long term deal, Heaton only offered 1 year extension - that to me infers (and it's my opinion) that the club see Pope as the long term keeper - whether that's from the start of this season or the next (or the one after that!) thats how I see it.

I was only saying that if Heaton is ultimately going to be replaced by Pope, then he can leave at the end of next season for free (again my opinion) if he wont sign a new contract - he wants 3 years, we wont give him that because the club have future planned for his replacement. I dont want to cash in on him either, I want him to stay longer, and keep the No 1 spot this season and maybe the next (if he'll sign the extension) - but we cannot predict his form or whether he'll get injured again and if Pope is the long term solution then that's what the club will want to ensure is in place, as they have done.

Selling him would not be good - he is the current No 1, and to sell him to a rival would be daft.

The extension the club have offered is where they see him being transitioned into the No 2 spot as far as I can see. So do we offer 3 years at £50k+/week when we are planning for him to be dropping to No 2? or do we see out his contract and let him go for free? or do we sell now because we want the cash and dont want a "disruptive" player who wanted a better deal in the dressing room? I think Tom is the model pro, and wouldn't be a problem being No 1 seeing out his current deal...

Claretpants
Posts: 233
Joined: Tue May 17, 2016 10:38 pm
Been Liked: 75 times
Has Liked: 27 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Claretpants » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:02 pm

Spijed wrote:Exactly.

Do Wolves, Leicester, Everton have two top class keepers?
Everton have none
These 2 users liked this post: Rick_Muller BurnleyFC

Papabendi
Posts: 1572
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:29 pm
Been Liked: 346 times
Has Liked: 48 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Papabendi » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:08 pm

it's possibly financial too - pay day via a signing on fee and potentially higher wages. He's getting older and it could be his last move - it is fairly understandable.

BurnleyFC
Posts: 5058
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:51 am
Been Liked: 1596 times
Has Liked: 888 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by BurnleyFC » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:11 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Wolves and Everton both have 2 good goalkeepers.
Everton don’t have one good ‘keeper.

TVC15
Posts: 8211
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:09 pm
Been Liked: 3321 times
Has Liked: 601 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by TVC15 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:14 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Tom Heaton May have aspirations to play for his national team and indeed he is in contention for a place in England’s squad, but he has very little chance of becoming England’s number one whether he’s playing regularly or not.

We think that our goalkeepers are fantastic and we are relatively blessed with talent in that department. But it is nothing unusual to have two players of Heaton and Pope’s ability fighting it out for a place in a Premier League team.
It is unusual for the keeper position.

TheOriginalLongsider
Posts: 2254
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:41 am
Been Liked: 426 times
Has Liked: 219 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by TheOriginalLongsider » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:16 pm

Just offer him three years. No fee to pay. I don’t care if Pope is unhappy with that, he’s under contract so won’t be leaving. Hart can go
This user liked this post: box_of_frogs

Dyched
Posts: 5938
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:34 am
Been Liked: 1921 times
Has Liked: 446 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Dyched » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:18 pm

TheOriginalLongsider wrote:Just offer him three years. No fee to pay. I don’t care if Pope is unhappy with that, he’s under contract so won’t be leaving. Hart can go
And what if he wants to play?

Rileybobs
Posts: 16681
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:37 pm
Been Liked: 6891 times
Has Liked: 1471 times
Location: Leeds

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:19 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:Everton don’t have one good ‘keeper.
They very clearly do. They have one who is almost unequivocally considered better than all of our goalkeepers. You are showing bias.

Down_Rover
Posts: 1749
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:09 pm
Been Liked: 445 times
Has Liked: 187 times
Location: Manchester

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Down_Rover » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:26 pm

I think Heaton is our best keeper right now, and certainly my favourite. I think Pope is likely to become our best keeper very soon.

Heaton will have little or no value in three years. Pope will be worth plenty for a number of years.

My business head says that offering Heaton a three year contract could be very expensive (because we have to factor in his diminishing value over the three years) and Pope will pay for himself for many years

I will be sorry to see Tom go, but at the right price it is the right decision. The right price is not £7m, so might as well offer a three year contract. I don't now what the right price is, £15m?

Hart hardly come into the equation. If we can offload good, if we have to pay £50k pw for a year for him to be number 2 ok (he is better than Lindegaard or Robinson), if we have to pay that amount for him to be number 3 it hurts.

jrgbfc
Posts: 8420
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:30 pm
Been Liked: 2097 times
Has Liked: 336 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:29 pm

agreenwood wrote:Surely Heaton’s only motivation for leaving would be financial?

He’s a first choice keeper and club captain at an established Premier League club. The faith the management team had in him was ultimately demonstrated by his selection over two other England goalkeepers in the second half of last year.

He appears to like Dyche. He appears to have a lot of respect for Mercer. The facilities at the club are now world class. Being at Burnley hasn’t hampered his England ambitions.

He’s putting a lot on the line if he were to leave to pursue a bigger contract.


No guarantee of him being first choice in future though. Maybe he is looking at Dyche offering Pope a long term deal and putting 2 and 2 together.

KevWebstersBomber
Posts: 91
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:33 am
Been Liked: 46 times
Has Liked: 7 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by KevWebstersBomber » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:41 pm

Pope should be our number 1 for the next 10 years.

No Ney Never
Posts: 2637
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:31 pm
Been Liked: 894 times
Has Liked: 328 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by No Ney Never » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:45 pm

Maybe it's a mistake, somebody typed Heaton instead of Hart. It's the only logical explanation I can think of which matches an offer of 7m for one of our keepers.
This user liked this post: elwaclaret

Rileybobs
Posts: 16681
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:37 pm
Been Liked: 6891 times
Has Liked: 1471 times
Location: Leeds

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:47 pm

KevWebstersBomber wrote:Pope should be our number 1 for the next 10 years.
If Pope is as good as he is considered by our fans then there will he no way he will be our keeper for the next 10 years. It’s all well and good selling Heaton but if Pope has another season like the last he played he will be off to a bigger club in 12 months time. Then we will have gone from 3 very good keepers to 1.

We aren’t in a position to be considering such a long term strategy.

Rileybobs
Posts: 16681
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:37 pm
Been Liked: 6891 times
Has Liked: 1471 times
Location: Leeds

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:50 pm

No Ney Never wrote:Maybe it's a mistake, somebody typed Heaton instead of Hart. It's the only logical explanation I can think of which matches an offer of 7m for one of our keepers.
It’s a low offer, but;

1.) Goalkeepers don’t command as big a fee as outfield players
2.) Heaton has 1 year left on his contract
3.) He’s 33
4.) Villa know that they can disrupt Heaton and turn his head by showing interest
5.) We aren’t the only club who test the water by putting a low bid in to start a negotiation

dermotdermot
Posts: 3479
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:50 pm
Been Liked: 660 times
Has Liked: 205 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by dermotdermot » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:51 pm

Keep Heaton. To let him go would be stupid.

Hibsclaret
Posts: 3939
Joined: Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:00 pm
Been Liked: 1233 times
Has Liked: 490 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Hibsclaret » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:27 pm

There was always going to be a point when this became an issue. The ideal scenario is for Hart to leave and we are left with Pope and Heaton. Unfortunately, this is very unlikely and I suspect Heaton will go.

If he does he goes with my best wishes and nobody should blame him. At his age and with his previous injury and England place to fight for (he cannot do that from our bench) there’s an argument that he should leave. For me he has been our best goalkeeper since the 60s and I was a big fan of Alan Stevenson when I was young.

The issue in other similar premier league clubs is a bit different where either one of the other keeper drops clangers every other week. With Pope and Heaton you are really counting any mistakes on one hand for a full season and that is gold dust. Look at the issues Bournemouth had last season with their 2 and even Liverpool the previous season.

We have been blessed but it was never going to last forever as both Heaton and Pope are way too good to spend a year on the bench.
Last edited by Hibsclaret on Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.

PremierLeagueClass
Posts: 1277
Joined: Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:49 pm
Been Liked: 574 times
Has Liked: 115 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:33 pm

We cannot let Heaton go to a rival. We know the impact his mere presence has on the team. I suspect there will be some sort of gentleman’s agreement made with Heaton when Pope signed that new contract. I just hope we drew the line at letting him go to one of the 7 or 8 teams we will be fighting with this season.

AlargeClaret
Posts: 4425
Joined: Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:55 pm
Been Liked: 1147 times
Has Liked: 180 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by AlargeClaret » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:35 pm

10m about right for TH who will be 34 by the end of the season . They’ll offer him a decent 2/3yr contract to likely close his career out . That said he’s a top draw keeper and I believe the best in England. I’d like him to stay for another year but he’l know if he loses the no 1 spot to Pope for any reason he’l struggle to get it back .
I’d be surprised if Hart stays but people making him out to be **** really do need to give their heads a feckin wobble

Rileybobs
Posts: 16681
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:37 pm
Been Liked: 6891 times
Has Liked: 1471 times
Location: Leeds

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:57 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:10m about right for TH who will be 34 by the end of the season . They’ll offer him a decent 2/3yr contract to likely close his career out . That said he’s a top draw keeper and I believe the best in England. I’d like him to stay for another year but he’l know if he loses the no 1 spot to Pope for any reason he’l struggle to get it back .
I’d be surprised if Hart stays but people making him out to be **** really do need to give their heads a feckin wobble
The best in England? Wow.

duncandisorderly
Posts: 2443
Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2016 8:58 pm
Been Liked: 970 times
Has Liked: 232 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by duncandisorderly » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:24 pm

Have we sold a keeper since Beresford?

Vegas Claret
Posts: 30273
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:00 am
Been Liked: 10916 times
Has Liked: 5594 times
Location: clue is in the title

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:24 pm

Give Tom a new deal and loan Pope out to Leeds :twisted:

If it is true and a fee can be agreed then Tom will be off, Villa really are a big club so it would be a great opportunity for him - I'll happily let Billy Mercer make the decision on who is our best keeper though !!

ŽižkovClaret
Posts: 6957
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:50 pm
Been Liked: 2143 times
Has Liked: 3060 times
Location: Praha
Contact:

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:25 pm

10m and he goes, then its Pope as undisputed no1, and Hart or new as back up

Murger
Posts: 4206
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:55 pm
Been Liked: 1235 times
Has Liked: 844 times

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by Murger » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:26 pm

Heaton and Hart will be off.

ClaretTony
Posts: 67422
Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:07 pm
Been Liked: 32237 times
Has Liked: 5253 times
Location: Burnley
Contact:

Re: Tom Heaton

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:30 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:Have we sold a keeper since Beresford?
That's a good question and I don't think we have. That was in 1998.

Post Reply