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Re: Burnley beat Fulham in Portugal
Ps no Koiki in the line ups tonight although I believe he is also out there
Or Jonah.....
Or Jonah.....
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Said a couple of days ago that it wasn't looking likely that I'd be using itDodobdobodobo wrote:Still got that 3rd headline waiting to be used Tony?
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Koiki, Taylor, Heaton & Defour all missed out - Dyche said there were some knocks but nothing serious although I don't think that would have included Defour who we knew would be missing.Selby Claret wrote:Ps no Koiki in the line ups tonight although I believe he is also out there
Or Jonah.....
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Can you see anymore new faces arriving or do you think that will be us done for this window ?ClaretTony wrote:Said a couple of days ago that it wasn't looking likely that I'd be using it
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I think the manager would like to see another couple but as we know from last year, it's not that easy.Reecey1987 wrote:Can you see anymore new faces arriving or do you think that will be us done for this window ?
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Reading between the lines it seems clear we'll be building a team around Benson this season and Dyche will only pick 2 of the 3 keepers
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Sorry Tony I missed thatClaretTony wrote:Said a couple of days ago that it wasn't looking likely that I'd be using it
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Yeah poor show!beddie wrote:Not good enough CT, I expected you to have attended the game and provide a full much report like you normally do
I bet Dave Burnley was there..
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Unsurprising to see Burnley’s best goalscorer on target. Love to see it.
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Have you not spotted me on the highlights?beddie wrote:Not good enough CT, I expected you to have attended the game and provide a full much report like you normally do
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All too familiar. Dyche was watching the women's world cup and described this as a knock too. I guess she will be out for the season.ClaretTony wrote:Dyche said there were some knocks but nothing serious although I don't think that would have included Defour who we knew would be missing.
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Vydra making a sub appearance in the 65th minute in a game like this. Finished at this club if we’re being honest - I’d keep him as back up but, like Hart I don’t think he’d sit well at all with being a bench player with very limited opportunities.
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Do you think going CAT 1 would be completely dependent on us retaining our place in the PL ?ClaretTony wrote:He and Mace Goodridge came in on trial towards the end of the 2017/18 season and both did well enough to get deals. Both started last season really well but Goodridge then did his cruciate and is just on his way back. Benson, I thought impressed, but he missed the end of the season with a hamstring injury at a time when all four u23 central midfielders were injured.
Both Benson & Goodridge are still just 19 though so we need to be patient, you don't get a McNeil every year, players like him coming through are exceptional.
That squad is improving, no doubt about it, but we are still in recovery mode in the academy although things are moving forward really well now and hopefully we'll be preparing for cat 1 this time next year.
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I would potentially think so but I believe the plan is to push for Cat 1 at the next audit which will be due during this coming season. That will take us to another level with our games programme at under-18 and under-23 level.Vegas Claret wrote:Do you think going CAT 1 would be completely dependent on us retaining our place in the PL ?
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As Tom hasn’t signed a contract and has interest he has to be the one to sit out.
If only in case he gets injured, which would leave us with all 3 still on the books.
IF!! he leaves we still have two fine keepers. If he signs a contract the situation changes.
If only in case he gets injured, which would leave us with all 3 still on the books.
IF!! he leaves we still have two fine keepers. If he signs a contract the situation changes.
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I think Benson made a comeback because of the stick he received on the worst manager we have ever had.
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Tom is under contractTricky Trevor wrote:As Tom hasn’t signed a contract and has interest he has to be the one to sit out.
If only in case he gets injured, which would leave us with all 3 still on the books.
IF!! he leaves we still have two fine keepers. If he signs a contract the situation changes.
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Some crazy comments on this thread, I’m not sure if I’ve fallen into the trap but are people seriously reading into a training ground work out and suggesting players will be leaving based on how many minutes they got
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Surely in a training game you can play as many goalkeepers as you wish, giving all three a run out, even so, not to play the goalkeeper who finished the season as number one is a little strange to say the least.ClaretTony wrote:We've three goalkeepers and he could only play two of them. No Taylor or Defour either.
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If you have three goalkeepers and you can only realistically give two match practice in a pre-season friendly then logically you are going to choose the ones most likely to start the the season for the club.
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It's not just the game though. I haven't seen any comments from Sean as to why Tom didn't play. Quite happy to say Taylor had an injury. Bearing in mind it was the clubs media team doing the interviews iam pretty sure they were told what to say, and I find it very strange no mention was made as to why Tom missed the game.Burnley1989 wrote:Some crazy comments on this thread, I’m not sure if I’ve fallen into the trap but are people seriously reading into a training ground work out and suggesting players will be leaving based on how many minutes they got
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Is Josh Benson a central midfielder? What sort of player is he?
Edit - just watched the interview of Benson and he describes himself as a box-to-box midfielder. 'Energetic' according to Jimmy Dunne.
Edit - just watched the interview of Benson and he describes himself as a box-to-box midfielder. 'Energetic' according to Jimmy Dunne.
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Heaton not playing isn't strange - simple explanation is there's a good possibility he will leave.
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The logic is simple
Heaton doesn't want to be a number 2
He us in the last year if his contract
He has already turned down the offer of a new deal
He will fetch the most money of him and Hart if sold
Theres keen interest in him
Why would you risk losing upto 10m in income for nothing more than a knock about.
As reported m, Heaton was very nearly a Villa player last window, it wouldn't surprise at all if that happened this window, leaving us Pope and Hart, with what I believe the latter being happy to fight it out for the Jersey, and be on the bench should Pope be number 1 (which IMO he will )
Heaton doesn't want to be a number 2
He us in the last year if his contract
He has already turned down the offer of a new deal
He will fetch the most money of him and Hart if sold
Theres keen interest in him
Why would you risk losing upto 10m in income for nothing more than a knock about.
As reported m, Heaton was very nearly a Villa player last window, it wouldn't surprise at all if that happened this window, leaving us Pope and Hart, with what I believe the latter being happy to fight it out for the Jersey, and be on the bench should Pope be number 1 (which IMO he will )
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I don’t think he’d want to start changing keeper part way through a half to be honest. Dyche will know why he chose the two he did. Maybe Tom was one of the players he referred to us having minor knocks. We will see what happens in terms of team selection for the next two games.Grumps wrote:Surely in a training game you can play as many goalkeepers as you wish, giving all three a run out, even so, not to play the goalkeeper who finished the season as number one is a little strange to say the least.
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He must have been injured then otherwise he would have got a game.morpheus2 wrote:Yeah poor show!
I bet Dave Burnley was there..
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Correct but after previous troubles with final years. He signs or he goes.ClaretTony wrote:Tom is under contract
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Does he? Why? Hasn't been the case with a number of other players in recent years so not sure why this one has to be different. Ings, Boyd, Arfield, Ward have all run their contracts down.Tricky Trevor wrote:Correct but after previous troubles with final years. He signs or he goes.
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But now we have 3 England internationals for one spot. Apart from Ings, you know the story, the others were ageing, cover was available and not Tom’s value.ClaretTony wrote:Does he? Why? Hasn't been the case with a number of other players in recent years so not sure why this one has to be different. Ings, Boyd, Arfield, Ward have all run their contracts down.
PS. I don’t want him to leave but why keep a, possibly, unhappy keeper?
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I just wish Dyche knew there was another 6 friendlies to get minutes into them.
Shocking that he doesn't.
Shocking that he doesn't.
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Ings we still got money for and doubt anyone would have paid much for the others even with 12 months remaining so probably not a big deal unlike Tom who we could potentially get about £10m for.ClaretTony wrote:Does he? Why? Hasn't been the case with a number of other players in recent years so not sure why this one has to be different. Ings, Boyd, Arfield, Ward have all run their contracts down.
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Spot onQuickenthetempo wrote:I just wish Dyche knew there was another 6 friendlies to get minutes into them.
Shocking that he doesn't.
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£10 million - and if he stays and plays and performs so we stay up - that's another £100 million +.Goobs wrote:Ings we still got money for and doubt anyone would have paid much for the others even with 12 months remaining so probably not a big deal unlike Tom who we could potentially get about £10m for.
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Not just an unhappy keeper, but club captain and a massive part of the squad. None of us really know what's going on but I think if Dyche sees Pope as our number 1 then Heaton has to go.Tricky Trevor wrote:But now we have 3 England internationals for one spot. Apart from Ings, you know the story, the others were ageing, cover was available and not Tom’s value.
PS. I don’t want him to leave but why keep a, possibly, unhappy keeper?
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I'm just pleased that we have managed to get a couple of players in early this summer and the squad gets a proper pre season this year. Last year's early start did us no favours. When is Gaffas day? Bet the players are really looking forward to that one!
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It was on Wednesday
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It was WednesdayNo Ney Never wrote:I'm just pleased that we have managed to get a couple of players in early this summer and the squad gets a proper pre season this year. Last year's early start did us no favours. When is Gaffas day? Bet the players are really looking forward to that one!
If you look on the BFC website they kinda tell you this..
On a side note (refering to earlier posts) I find it amusing that some look at a behind closed doors friendly and try and make out Seans team & tactics for the season ahead.
Like all friendlies/games etc at this time its about getting time on the pitch... not about winning / how many goals etc.... just because a player does or doesn't feature means bugger all at this stage.....
We all know there will be some more out goings and incomings with personel.....
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Apart from Up The Clarets and the gossip column on BBC, I don't really spend much time during the off season reading about football related matters, so not really up to date with the smaller details.Bosscat wrote:It was Wednesday
If you look on the BFC website they kinda tell you this..
Good news is, I can rely on this site for anything Clarets related.
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Just seen a clip showing a Brady free kick curling away from the keeper for JayRod to head home. Linesman's flag up so no goal.
The club's own report says McNiell came in and played central midfield alongside Cork in the 2nd half with Benson going wide left.
Vydra came on after Fulham made their 11 substitutions in the 63rd minute with BFC changing their 3-5-2 to a 3-4-3 formation from the look of things
The club's own report says McNiell came in and played central midfield alongside Cork in the 2nd half with Benson going wide left.
Vydra came on after Fulham made their 11 substitutions in the 63rd minute with BFC changing their 3-5-2 to a 3-4-3 formation from the look of things
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Hoping Tom Stays. He really helped keep us up last season and is by far the best organizer at the back for us.
I think Pope has the ability, however I also think he walked into a good situation when Heaton got injured. Tom had them well drilled and already set up to protect him well. I hate to say it but I have suspicions that had Pope played last year instead of Hart it could have broken him. The defence was the problem and Heaton was needed to sort it out. Hart got the blame yet I doubt Pope would have done any better. All three are good keepers... I just rate them Tom, Nick and then Joe a fair bit behind.
I think Pope has the ability, however I also think he walked into a good situation when Heaton got injured. Tom had them well drilled and already set up to protect him well. I hate to say it but I have suspicions that had Pope played last year instead of Hart it could have broken him. The defence was the problem and Heaton was needed to sort it out. Hart got the blame yet I doubt Pope would have done any better. All three are good keepers... I just rate them Tom, Nick and then Joe a fair bit behind.
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Heaton came back to training a week after Pope & Hart, probably a factor in not getting minutes yesterday.
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Wow - don’t come up with anything sensibleab1882 wrote:Heaton came back to training a week after Pope & Hart, probably a factor in not getting minutes yesterday.
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bfcmik ---did you have to tell them about the disallowed goal? They will be going apoplectic on here that we have another striker who gets into offside positions! Do you realise what you may have started?bfcmik wrote:Just seen a clip showing a Brady free kick curling away from the keeper for JayRod to head home. Linesman's flag up so no goal.
The club's own report says McNiell came in and played central midfield alongside Cork in the 2nd half with Benson going wide left.
Vydra came on after Fulham made their 11 substitutions in the 63rd minute with BFC changing their 3-5-2 to a 3-4-3 formation from the look of things
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Only another 49 successful attempts this season to go then!!Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:bfcmik ---did you have to tell them about the disallowed goal? They will be going apoplectic on here that we have another striker who gets into offside positions! Do you realise what you may have started?
Will that do for starters?
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Not to mention not using VAR. What sort of unrealistic preparation is happening here?Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:bfcmik ---did you have to tell them about the disallowed goal? They will be going apoplectic on here that we have another striker who gets into offside positions! Do you realise what you may have started?
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