Bournemouth......
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:13 am
Paying Callum Wilson £100,000. Per week.
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Did absolutely nothing against us last season but he’s got himself a good gig there.Heathclaret wrote:Paying Callum Wilson £100,000. Per week.
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Not one post has suggested that. It’s of course much easier to do with a nice pile of legitimately earned Russian money to fund the wages.Dyched wrote:OMG!! How dare a team pay more than Burnley.
#cheaters
I think they are operating a profit so the owner isnt needing to fund them at all whist they are in the Prem. The advantage Bournemouth have with a rich owner is they can theoretically push they spending to the limits on the premise should they go down the owner will cover the wages in the Championship.Blackrod wrote:Is Bournemouth’s owner just donating money or is it a loan arrangement that can be written off ? Just wondering what happens when he pops his clogs and whether it could be another Bolton situation.
14 goals and 10 assists in 30 league appearances last season.BurnleyFC wrote:Good for them. He’s not actually that good.
That only works if the wages paid are inline with what other clubs "in the market" will also be prepared to pay. Lot's of examples of clubs agreeing over the odds wages and there being an impact on transfer value - either lower fee, or the selling club paying out the balance of the player's contract after the transfer.Devils_Advocate wrote: With Eddie's eye for young players their strategy is currently pretty good as players like Wilson and Brookes would provide the funds to see out a few big contracts should they drop
Agree and thats where Bournemouth can take more risk than us but will still have their limits. £100k for an England striker in demand seems very much in line (actually probably below) what the clubs in the market for him are paying.Paul Waine wrote:That only works if the wages paid are inline with what other clubs "in the market" will also be prepared to pay. Lot's of examples of clubs agreeing over the odds wages and there being an impact on transfer value - either lower fee, or the selling club paying out the balance of the player's contract after the transfer.
Expensive business, if you get these things wrong.
He has 33 in 91 prem appearances. Chris Wood has 20 in 62 for us. Very similar records.JohnMcGreal wrote:14 goals and 10 assists in 30 league appearances last season.
I hope one of our strikers isn't that good this season.
It’s the same every time there is a thread about anything to do with Bournemouth. People can’t take it that they spend some money. Then everyone makes post on why Burnley are better. Or Burnley players are better.DCWat wrote:Not one post has suggested that. It’s of course much easier to do with a nice pile of legitimately earned Russian money to fund the wages.
Or a big pile of Premier League TV money.DCWat wrote:Not one post has suggested that. It’s of course much easier to do with a nice pile of legitimately earned Russian money to fund the wages.
Where did you find out the info on how many penalties he scored? To see how many Wood has scored for us?Hibsclaret wrote:He has 33 in 91 prem appearances. Chris Wood has 20 in 62 for us. Very similar records.
Then factor in that 5 of his goals were penalties, you could argue that Wood has a slightly better record. Also factor in the fact that Bournemouth can’t defend and are set up to attack.
One of our strikers is as good and we are paying him a third (to a half) of what Wilson is being paid. I would also argue that Barnes is as good because I see him as a similar level to Wood with different playing style/qualities
Others on here would probably be able to answer that. He did sell some of the club to Americans but then bought it back.Blackrod wrote:Is Bournemouth’s owner just donating money or is it a loan arrangement that can be written off ? Just wondering what happens when he pops his clogs and whether it could be another Bolton situation.
There’s a base line at which fair play comes in at Premier League level. Bournemouth will be nowhere near it.Woodleyclaret wrote:Russian money keeping them afloat.Sounds like a mini Chelsea.How on earth are Bournemouth staying in the fair play ruled with gates of 11,000 and paying Wilson £100,000?Surely its a case of income way below outgoings and therefore breaking the ffp rules?
Gate receipts are a very small percentage of a PL club's income, Bournemouth have been making profits and I don't think the PL financial rules are based on income anyway.Woodleyclaret wrote:Russian money keeping them afloat.Sounds like a mini Chelsea.How on earth are Bournemouth staying in the fair play ruled with gates of 11,000 and paying Wilson £100,000?Surely its a case of income way below outgoings and therefore breaking the ffp rules?
Plus this has just been passed which has maybe encouraged them to start paying bigger wages?ClaretTony wrote:There’s a base line at which fair play comes in at Premier League level. Bournemouth will be nowhere near it.
If something’s been recently passed then I don’t know. Lee Hoos told me about the base line but that was back in 2014/15.Cleveleys_claret wrote:Plus this has just been passed which has maybe encouraged them to start paying bigger wages?
I assume from reading some of your posts, aggi, that you’d advocate more of an increase in terms of wages. What would you see as being our ceiling, particularly when thinking about not risking the club in the future?aggi wrote:Or a big pile of Premier League TV money.
Put it this way, last season we would have had 8 players earning £100k a week on top of our existing squad and we'd have still made a profit.
I'm pretty sure this isn't correct given their wage bill and transfer business on crowds of less than 11,000.Devils_Advocate wrote:I think they are operating a profit so the owner isnt needing to fund them at all whist they are in the Prem.
I think up until now our wages have been sensible. We don't have a rich backer so we had to build up that pile of money in case of relegation. We're at the point now where I feel the level of reserves is sufficient to see us through a couple of years if we go down so we don't need to carry on making profits of ~ £45m (although the year just gone will likely be a fair bit lower due to lack of player trading) although I'd still like to see average profits in the region of £10-15m.DCWat wrote:I assume from reading some of your posts, aggi, that you’d advocate more of an increase in terms of wages. What would you see as being our ceiling, particularly when thinking about not risking the club in the future?
For clubs like Burnley and Bournemouth the crowds make barely any difference. It's about 4% of the total revenue. It's all about the TV moneyJakubs Tash wrote:I'm pretty sure this isn't correct given their wage bill and transfer business on crowds of less than 11,000.
I assume Clevely's is talking about the removal of thr £7m year on year wages increase http://uptheclarets.com/messageboard/vi ... d#p1038895" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;ClaretTony wrote:If something’s been recently passed then I don’t know. Lee Hoos told me about the base line but that was back in 2014/15.
Bolton was an interesting one as Davies wrote off almost all the debt when the club was sold, the problem was the expectation even the demand that someone else would do the same, combined with an owner who saw the club as a vehicle to make money not spend money.Rowls wrote:Serviceable
That's the word that Bolton fans used to use a lot.
As in the sentence, "The debt is serviceable whilst we are an established Premier League team."
Just google Bournemouth penalty takers. There are stats on everything.Quickenthetempo wrote:Where did you find out the info on how many penalties he scored? To see how many Wood has scored for us?
And that's the gamble half of the current PL clubs have to weigh up,what happens in the event of relegation,if Bournemouth were to drop in the next season or two,they could run into problems,not insurmountable problems by any means,but they'd have to trim their running costs,of course in the event of Championship football,Callum Wilson and a few others will move on anyway,i guess the bigger issue is having guys on large contracts that you can't shift off the wage bill,for instance a Jack Rodwell at Sunderland type situation.Rowls wrote:Serviceable
That's the word that Bolton fans used to use a lot.
As in the sentence, "The debt is serviceable whilst we are an established Premier League team."
1) they didn’t make a profit - they lost nearly £11m.KRBFC wrote:How do Bournemouth need the Russian owners money if they’re making profit from PL income? All Bournemouth are doing is spending the PL money (the same money we receive) on young players (assets), if they go down, they will be able to offload many of their players (including their highest earners) and for big money too. Fraser, Brooks, Wilson and Ake must be pushing £150M in fees in the ever inflating market if they ever needed to cut their cloth.
So essentially where we have our money stockpiled in the dry powder room, Bournemouth are investing it into young players and adding to an already very good squad.
Who’s policy is better? In the end, Bournemouth will receive a much higher return on their assets than we have cash stockpiled.
Weirdly when I suggested he wasn't worth the money/wages and wouldn't be any good, I was battered on here and yet you're stating he wasn't a success.bfcjg wrote:They also spunked a shed full of cash on Defoe and that was hardly a success.
Is Defoe still out on loan?GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Weirdly when I suggested he wasn't worth the money/wages and wouldn't be any good, I was battered on here and yet you're stating he wasn't a success.
I think I'll just wait until a transfer has proven to be hardly a success next time