Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

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Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby bartons baggage » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:38 pm

For me it has to be JBG.
The lad is **** poor on a good day.

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby SonofPog » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:40 pm

Tyrone Mears for England anyone?

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Quicknick » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:50 pm

bartons baggage wrote:For me it has to be JBG.
The lad is **** poor on a good day.


Ridiculous post.
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Steve1956 » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:53 pm

Paul Stewart.
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby ClaretTony » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:56 pm

bartons baggage wrote:For me it has to be JBG.
The lad is **** poor on a good day.


Well I suppose we are all entitled to an opinion but I think I could produce a list into three figures of players I’ve seen play for us who are/were not as good as JBG.
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Vegas Claret » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:57 pm

Nick Pickering

end.of.thread
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby BurnleyFC » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:57 pm

Going off some of the posts idolising him - Steven Defour, sadly.

I’ve even seen posts on here saying he’s the best player to have played for us since we last won the league :lol:
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby tim_noone » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:03 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Nick Pickering

end.of.thread

Was he the scottish keeper? He sprung to mind... Other than him Adam Blacklaw.nicky walker?
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby bartons baggage » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:04 pm

Quicknick wrote:Ridiculous post.

Not really the lad is robbing a living.
Can't tackle.
always cuts back instead of crossing.
his stats for last season are shite.
https://www.premierleague.com/players/6 ... sson/stats
Says it all.

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Swizzlestick » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:14 pm

“Can’t tackle”

Tackling. Just what you want from a winger.

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby bartons baggage » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:20 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:“Can’t tackle”

Tackling. Just what you want from a winger.


Well call me old fashioned,but no matter where you play,you have got to be able to tackle an opponent.
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Duffer_ » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:28 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Nick Pickering

end.of.thread


Just because everyone thought you were complete shoite, doesn't mean you can't still be over-rated. Take a bow Nick Prickering!

I rarely criticise ex players btw.

UTC!

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby fidelcastro » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:31 pm

tim_noone wrote:Was he the scottish keeper? He sprung to mind... Other than him Adam Blacklaw.nicky walker?


Nick Pickering, a keeper? :lol:

Well... he'd have been about as effective there, I suppose.

Tim Loon strikes again, folks.

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Wile E Coyote » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:44 pm

so when you wrote "Ever" you want it condensing to our current crop of players ? and you single out a Burnley footballer who plies his trade in the highest league in the land ! Incredible.
Many of us have endured utter rubbish served up in the bottom division, and witnessed the most un athletic, talentless, apathetic slobs imaginable in Burnley shirts, and you choose JBG !!!!!
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Right_winger » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:46 pm

David Jones easily. Exceptionally limited ability, 1 footed 2 yard passing sideways or backwards excuse of a player if ever there was one.

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby bfcjg » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:49 pm

Ian Moore

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby bartons baggage » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:49 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:so when you wrote "Ever" you want it condensing to our current crop of players ? and you single out a Burnley footballer who plies his trade in the highest league in the land ! Incredible.
Many of us have endured utter rubbish served up in the bottom division, and witnessed the most un athletic, talentless, apathetic slobs imaginable in Burnley shirts, and you choose JBG !!!!!


Yeah i do, he shuts his eyes in 50/50 challenges,also check the link i posted,his stats are very poor for an attacking player.

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby fidelcastro » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:52 pm

Right_winger wrote:David Jones easily. Exceptionally limited ability, 1 footed 2 yard passing sideways or backwards excuse of a player if ever there was one.


I can only assume you mean the tall black lad, that we had up front in the late eighties.

The other one was excellent for us and a key player in TWO promotions.
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Claretforever » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:52 pm

You can tell how old posters are by the names mentioned in their posts.

For me, and I endured the 4th division days, it could be Tony Hancock.

We also made a huge deal about signing Liam Robinson in 1994 for our then record fee of £250K.
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Right_winger » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:56 pm

fidelcastro wrote:I can only assume you mean the tall black lad, that we had up front in the late eighties.

The other one was excellent for us and a key player in TWO promotions.


Nope I mean the big eared waste of space who run around in the middle of the park for us doing the square route of FA. created next to nothing, couldn’t take a player on, didn’t attempt any challenges or put himself about. All he could do was put himself between the ball and another player and make short passes to nearby teammates usually behind him. Utter donkey

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Wile E Coyote » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:58 pm

bartons baggage wrote:Yeah i do, he shuts his eyes in 50/50 challenges,also check the link i posted,his stats are very poor for an attacking player.


there is no point in that statement, and no validity in your thinking. Your are WRONG .
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby fidelcastro » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:58 pm

Right_winger wrote:Nope I mean the big eared waste of space who run around in the middle of the park for us doing the square route of FA. created next to nothing, couldn’t take a player on, didn’t attempt any challenges or put himself about. All he could do was put himself between the ball and another player and make short passes to nearby teammates usually behind him. Utter donkey


Yet Sean Dyche felt it necessary to keep him in the team during those two promotions :shock:

Have they let you out for the weekend? :roll:
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby bartons baggage » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:06 am

Right_winger wrote:David Jones easily. Exceptionally limited ability, 1 footed 2 yard passing sideways or backwards excuse of a player if ever there was one.

You have just shown your lack of football knowledge.
David Jones Was class.

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Rileybobs » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:07 am

If anyone actually rated the OP then he would be the most over rated poster on this forum (EVER).

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby DCWat » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:08 am

Ian Moore is a good shout although I’m not sure who or how many ‘rated him’.

Plenty rated Martin Paterson. For me, he was hugely overrated (goal at Reading aside).

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Right_winger » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:11 am

bartons baggage wrote:You have just shown your lack of football knowledge.
David Jones Was class.


Why what did he do? What attributes has he actually got? Runs around doing nothing. Always got found out and shifted on for peanuts/free because he was so great.

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Grimsdale » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:11 am

bartons baggage wrote:Not really the lad is robbing a living.
Can't tackle.
always cuts back instead of crossing.
his stats for last season are shite.
https://www.premierleague.com/players/6 ... sson/stats
Says it all.


His stats for last season are shite?

Last season JBG played 1,743 minutes in which time he scored 3 and assisted 6, so a goal involvement of one every 194 minutes or just under one every two games.

By comparison, McNeil played 1,590 minutes with 3 goals and 5 assists, so a goal involvement of one every 199 minutes.
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby bartons baggage » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:11 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:there is no point in that statement, and no validity in your thinking. Your are WRONG .

No i'm not, look at the stats.
Iv'e watched Burnley for years,and no matter what level we've been at i can't recall a winger as poor as JBG.

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby ElectroClaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:14 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:...the most un athletic, talentless, apathetic slobs imaginable ....


Brilliant. :D You tell 'em, Wile E. Because you're quite right, actually.

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Right_winger » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:14 am

fidelcastro wrote:Yet Sean Dyche felt it necessary to keep him in the team during those two promotions :shock:

Have they let you out for the weekend? :roll:


Not exactly a good argument. Sean Dyche also purchased Juke and Sordell A’s first team players. Pair of them were lethal. Still I bet they hit the numbers for running around in training and were good in the dressing room. Shame they were also very poor aswell on par with Jones just not rated as highly by some though.

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby fidelcastro » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:20 am

Right_winger wrote:Not exactly a good argument. Sean Dyche also purchased Juke and Sordell A’s first team players. Pair of them were lethal. Still I bet they hit the numbers for running around in training and were good in the dressing room. Shame they were also very poor aswell on par with Jones just not rated as highly by some though.


You still haven't answered why David Jones played in most of those games when we won two promotions. You simply made an irrelevant point about two players who were signed after promotion, and weren't regular starters.

I'll give you a clue... most of us on here know the answer and it's not because he was an "excuse of a player". :roll:

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby bartons baggage » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:25 am

[quote="Right_winger"]Not exactly a good argument. Sean Dyche also purchased Juke and Sordell A’s first team players. Pair of them were lethal. Still I bet they hit the numbers for running around in training and were good in the dressing room. Shame they were also very poor aswell on par with Jones just not rated as highly by some though.[/quote

Talking **** lad.

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby duncandisorderly » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:36 am

Marlon Beresford. He was linked with a big club, a national cap (maybe U21 or england B or something) then signed for middlesbro of all teams for half a million quid. He was an okay keeper in his early days, when we were shite. I dunno how true it is, but as a kid I was told he was almost sold for a million pounds to a top division side [derby maybe?] (we were division three, or whatever it was called at the time - was it Waddle season?) and my little brain could not compute such a figure for a burnley player.

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Taffy on the wing » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:10 am

bartons baggage wrote:For me it has to be JBG.
The lad is **** poor on a good day.

Are you blind?
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Taffy on the wing » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:13 am

Right_winger wrote:Nope I mean the big eared waste of space who run around in the middle of the park for us doing the square route of FA. created next to nothing, couldn’t take a player on, didn’t attempt any challenges or put himself about. All he could do was put himself between the ball and another player and make short passes to nearby teammates usually behind him. Utter donkey

IDIOT!
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Woodleyclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:23 am

Paul Weller I never understood the fuss others made.
JBG is a class player and an excellent crosser and provider of goal assists
I also dont understand the obsession with wingers tracking back.Our problems last year came from everyone being back defending with the consequences that when we did play the ball upfield it came straight back.The best form of defence is attack as the opposition cant score if you are in their half

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Quicknick » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:35 am

Right_winger wrote:Nope I mean the big eared waste of space who run around in the middle of the park for us doing the square route of FA. created next to nothing, couldn’t take a player on, didn’t attempt any challenges or put himself about. All he could do was put himself between the ball and another player and make short passes to nearby teammates usually behind him. Utter donkey



You do get some dumb posts on here.

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby taffy » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:39 am

bartons baggage wrote:For me it has to be JBG.
The lad is **** poor on a good day.

Were you born stupid or do you have to get up early to practise
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Tribesmen » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:41 am

Steve1956 wrote:Paul Stewart.

Have to agree .

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby dandeclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:51 am

Gabor Kiraly.
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby KlyBfc » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:00 am

Someone is clearly fishing with Dave the assist machine Jones


Back to topic........
absolutely 100% Ashley Barnes..... only rated because he works hard / fights folk a bit like Dean Marney... zero ability but gets away with murder because of his application to the Burnley cause

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby OssyClaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:10 am

In my view I don’t think you are too far wrong with JBG. Certainly nowhere near the worst we’ve had but overrated, possibly,

Reading this thread, he is clearly ‘rated’ by many but his quantifiable contribution is pretty bang average.

He doesn’t score or assist.
Doesn’t have pace.
Very rarely beats his man.
Not so sure he’s great defensively.

I can’t think what his main attribute is if I’m totally honest, it’s certainly not his numbers.

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby andyh » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:15 am

Wayne Thomas... luckily it was Southampton that over rated him.
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Right_winger » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:52 am

fidelcastro wrote:You still haven't answered why David Jones played in most of those games when we won two promotions. You simply made an irrelevant point about two players who were signed after promotion, and weren't regular starters.

I'll give you a clue... most of us on here know the answer and it's not because he was an "excuse of a player". :roll:


Jones played because Dyche is poor at recruitment and he runs around a lot hitting set targets for effort. In a footballing sense Jones never done much at all. No creativity, didn’t put himself about and get stuck in. Had a **** poor goal scoring record aswell for a midfielder. All the real stats are there. Every club he’s been at he’s lost his place and been shifted on cheaply.

Go on then what is it? You still refuse to answer. There’s a few people on here who are good at rambling on with no substance.

Also there’s a few people on here who need to remove their heads from Dyche’s rear end.
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby fatboy47 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:53 am

Never quite got the Chris McCann love in thing personally...despite his allegedly awesome start to the first Prem campaign.

All opinions...,I thought he was a fairly clumsy league one level midfielder. Watching him play I always thought, if anything, he'd have been better at centre half.
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby CharlieinNewMexico » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:03 am

You can't call JBG overrated. He was signed for minimal outlay from an already relegated Charlton. What, did you think he was Pele?

He's not a world beater by any stretch but he's far outperformed any expectations we've had of him AND he's spent the best part of 2 years recovering from injuries.

Thirdly, no he can't really tackle (because, you know, he's a winger) but he tracks back and puts players under pressure with a diligence I've never seen given his limited defensive qualities

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Swizzlestick » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:12 am

Some eye opening contributions but I do agree with the Chris McCann shout. Never quite got it with him.

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby bobinho » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:28 am

Yep. Another shout for McCann I’m afraid. Had a very good season and a half when he looked decent, but it was the other 8.5 (ish) seasons where people kept going on about how good he was going to be that puzzled me. As fatboy says, a bit clumsy looking and zero pace.

As an aside, can’t believe anyone would suggest DJ and JBG in this category.

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:28 am

bartons baggage wrote:Not really the lad is robbing a living.
Can't tackle.
always cuts back instead of crossing.
his stats for last season are shite.
https://www.premierleague.com/players/6 ... sson/stats
Says it all.


So he is involved in a goal more than 1 game in 4 and we can expect success in 10 games of the new season (assuming he plays every game). If all our midfield do that we will have a great season.

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Postby Blackrod » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:32 am

KlyBfc wrote:Someone is clearly fishing with Dave the assist machine Jones


Back to topic........
absolutely 100% Ashley Barnes..... only rated because he works hard / fights folk a bit like Dean Marney... zero ability but gets away with murder because of his application to the Burnley cause


‘Zero ability’ Absolute nonsense.


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