Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Post by dandeclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:33 am

Actually got a thread ended for most over rated player ever to play for Burnley.......

Ladies and Gentlemen......

I give you......


Nathan Delfouneso...... England U21 sensation.
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Post by Blackrod » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:36 am

Paul Stewart was just **** poor. I can forgive a player for not being quite good enough but trying. Not trying is inexcusable ( regardless of what else is going on off the pitch). The plain facts are he didn’t try in a BFC shirt which makes him my worst player ever ( probably after Tony Hancock and D Jones Mk 1 ) and I’ve see some dross ones who did at least try.

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Post by theroyaldyche » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:40 am

bartons baggage wrote:For me it has to be JBG.
The lad is **** poor on a good day.
Hes never been rated to be overated. Average at best

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Post by theroyaldyche » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:42 am

Right_winger wrote:Why what did he do? What attributes has he actually got? Runs around doing nothing. Always got found out and shifted on for peanuts/free because he was so great.
Dave jones

Another bang average player

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Post by ashtonlongsider » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:10 am

Liam Robinson. Taking everything into consideration. We broke our transfer record back then to sign him. However for me it was poor business and the fee was never justified, there were always better options I thought.
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Post by MDWat » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:14 am

David Jones? JBG? Chris McCann?

Jesus ******* wept, man.
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Post by DuckworthsEA » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:18 am

[quote="bartons baggage"]Not really the lad is robbing a living.
Can't tackle.
always cuts back instead of crossing.
his stats for last season are shite.
https://www.premierleague.com/players/6 ... sson/stats" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Says it all
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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:20 am

JBG is a good player. Carries the ball well which takes the team up the pitch, works hard, chips in with the odd goal, which I’m sure he’d like to do more of also. You’d do well to find a better winger than him these days for the money we paid for him.

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Post by SirAlec » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:33 am

JBG is a good player but he doesn’t exactly get the heart racing too often, always thought he looks slow on the ball for a winger and his assist and goal ratio is average at best.

Wasn’t he linked with a big Italian side? One one the Milan clubs? This would certainly qualify him as being over rated.

For the record I do rate him but he’s no world beater.

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Post by SirAlec » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:39 am

Also Ashley Barnes being linked to Chelsea a couple of years ago for me puts him in the over rated bracket too.

David Jones probably one of the most under rated players in recent Burnley history along with Ben Mee (not by us but other fans).

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Post by bfc-sparta » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:53 am

Defour - hull,united ,Bristol are the only times he's done anything.

Joe hart - try's to make a spectacular save when he could make a simple one. When he was at west ham we all knew he was rubbish but when he came here loads of people were buzzing saying another England keeper woo hoo. He's the reason for our bad results start of last season.

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:54 am

Jon Walters by a country mile. Dogsh*t and passed it but the way people talk about him on here you'd think he was an injury away from being the Burnley Messi

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:22 am

Tribesmen wrote:Have to agree .
It wasn't difficult to come to that conclusion mate,absolute garbage footballer.

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Post by DuckworthsEA » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:36 am

OssyClaret wrote:In my view I don’t think you are too far wrong with JBG. Certainly nowhere near the worst we’ve had but overrated, possibly,

Reading this thread, he is clearly ‘rated’ by many but his quantifiable contribution is pretty bang average.

He doesn’t score or assist.
Doesn’t have pace.
Very rarely beats his man.
Not so sure he’s great defensively.

I can’t think what his main attribute is if I’m totally honest, it’s certainly not his numbers.
He sounds terrible. Can I ask if you were one that was calling for Dyche’s head when Hendrick was in the team playing on the RW when JBG was on the bench.

I wasn’t aware that JBG arrived with that much hype he has the tag of our most over rated player of all time. We payed £3mil for him from a side that had just been related to League 1.

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Post by Stayingup » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:40 am

BurnleyFC wrote:Going off some of the posts idolising him - Steven Defour, sadly.

I’ve even seen posts on here saying he’s the best player to have played for us since we last won the league :lol:
Good as he can be he's definitely not the best player to play for the Clarets since the last Campionship side.

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Post by Stayingup » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:45 am

interesting this about JBG. I watch him and think he has a schoolboy mentality at times. He often calls for the ball in ridiculous situations. He does have some skill though and hopefully he will improve.

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Post by warksclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:17 am

Harsh on JBG-on his day a match winner, and a great crosser. Sometimes disappears or gives it away but still very valued team member

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Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Post by box_of_frogs » Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:39 am

Forget his first name, but the keeper Kendall.

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Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:40 am

box_of_frogs wrote:Forget his first name, but the keeper Kendall.
Don’t think he was over rated. He was just awful and not rated by anyone with a pair of working eyes
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Post by box_of_frogs » Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:43 am

Anyone knocking Chris Pearce out of the team must be highly rated! :? :lol:

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Post by depechedingle » Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:50 am

Some clear fishing hear and a fair few bites, JBG and the midfielder David Jones come on really!!!

I remember the fanfare when we signed Wayne Thomas and the bigger fanfare when we got shut at profit, too think Cotterill gatecrashed the Thomas family holiday in Florida desperate to sign him says how much we rated him and what a coup it was supposed to be for the club.

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Post by Conroy92 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:02 pm

How about the young lad John Cofie? Moved at 16 to united for a million, think I saw a poster saying he was in non league football now?

After watching Steve Jones debut (when I think he scored 2 against QPR?) I thought he'd be a real player for us, he was bobbins after that.

The mentions of David Jones, Barnes and JBG are ridiculous.
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Post by CBT » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:02 pm

bartons baggage wrote:For me it has to be JBG.
The lad is **** poor on a good day.
Over rated by who though?
Most other football fans I speak to who dont support Burnley have McNeil as our best player so does that mean he's over rated by rest of the football world?

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Post by boyyanno » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:04 pm

Surprised to see some people say JBG who I think is a decent player, same with Barnes and Jones. All of them signed for next to nothing from similar or worse teams and all of them contributed to our recent success.

I always thought Chris Eagles was a bit overrated, he was a very good player on his day but didn't have them often enough. For someone who came from United with good pedigree and cost more than we could afford at the time I'd argue he fits the billing more than any of the three above.

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:26 pm

Barnes shouldn't be referred to as overrated in any shape or form, think back to his brilliant (and crucial) goals for us.
His battling spirit isn't some irrelevance either, I wish every player we had was as determined. I really rate him, so I am biased, but cannot imagine why anybody would claim he should be in this category.

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Post by SussexDon1inIreland » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:35 pm

chris eagles?

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Post by expoultryboy » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:20 pm

Steve Daly
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Post by Tricky Trevor » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:50 pm

Based purely on over-rated. Terry Cochrane. The Longside drooled over him cos he beat 1,2,3 etc., men and then he crossed it into the Beehole.
I once heard Uwe screaming at the bench to “get that f*cker off” against Wolves in a cup match.

Must thank him for that winner at Deadwood though, a magical memory.

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Post by elwaclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:57 pm

expoultryboy wrote:Steve Daly
Steve Daley has to be up there. Saw absolutely nothing of the player that had commanded £1m a few years earlier. Remember him being more than decent for Wolves, decent for City and utter dross for us.

Mark Ford was highly rated by Waddle, there was excitement I remember when we took him from Leeds, as he was being bigged up as on the point of breaking into the first team... to say it never happened for him is being generous.

Gerry Gow takes some beating, there where some fans in the lower Cricketfield who could have been more mobile in midfield by the time we got him.

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Post by elwaclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:01 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:Based purely on over-rated. Terry Cochrane. The Longside drooled over him cos he beat 1,2,3 etc., men and then he crossed it into the Beehole.
I once heard Uwe screaming at the bench to “get that f*cker off” against Wolves in a cup match.

Must thank him for that winner at Deadwood though, a magical memory.
Not my memory of Cochran’s tbh... thought he was another off our seemingly endless supply of world class (at the time) wingers. He maybe wasn’t off the top shelf like some of our former stars, admittedly but there were some bloody big boots to fill.

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Post by whiffa » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:19 pm

Leon Cort.

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Post by NL Claret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:23 pm

Andre Bikey , loved by some, for what reason I do not know.

Wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes under Dyche.

Cost a parachute payment.

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Post by claretburns » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:28 pm

bartons baggage wrote:Well call me old fashioned,but no matter where you play,you have got to be able to tackle an opponent.
Tom Heaton for me, his tackle stats are appalling.

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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:31 pm

claretburns wrote:Tom Heaton for me, his tackle stats are appalling.
Longest in the shower?

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Post by elwaclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:31 pm

NL Claret wrote:Andre Bikey , loved by some, for what reason I do not know.

Wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes under Dyche.

Cost a parachute payment.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing...

When Bikey arrived it was a great signing, his little paddy when getting sent off in the play off only added to the fun. He was maverick and that is why Clarets took to him. By the time he left I don’t think many were sorry to see him go, as it was clear he’d spilt over into madness. I don’t think he was over rated at any point in between tbh.

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Post by NL Claret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:50 pm

elwaclaret wrote:Hindsight is a wonderful thing...

When Bikey arrived it was a great signing, his little paddy when getting sent off in the play off only added to the fun. He was maverick and that is why Clarets took to him. By the time he left I don’t think many were sorry to see him go, as it was clear he’d spilt over into madness. I don’t think he was over rated at any point in between tbh.
He was a big fat lazy liability who didn't give a toss. Never understood his popularity with fans. Some used to gasp and then applaud when he hit a 60 yard cross field ball that bounced off the Bob lord stand wall.

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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:51 pm

bartons baggage wrote:For me it has to be JBG.
The lad is **** poor on a good day.
Biggest catch of the summer.

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Post by elwaclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:32 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Biggest catch of the summer.
I don’t get the joke in making yourself look a nob just for replies. Tbh
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Post by OssyClaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:57 pm

DuckworthsEA wrote:He sounds terrible. Can I ask if you were one that was calling for Dyche’s head when Hendrick was in the team playing on the RW when JBG was on the bench.

I wasn’t aware that JBG arrived with that much hype he has the tag of our most over rated player of all time. We payed £3mil for him from a side that had just been related to League 1.
You can ask but I wasn’t. Dyche is and will always be our biggest asset.

For me JBG is overrated, people like you quite clearly think he is a premier league footballer but he isn’t.

In fact he’s a bit like Duckworths estate agent, in not delivering on anything.

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Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:03 pm

OssyClaret wrote:For me JBG is overrated, people like you quite clearly think he is a premier league footballer but he isn’t.
The thing is though, he actually is.
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Post by HieronymousBoschHobs » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:04 pm

NL Claret wrote:He was a big fat lazy liability who didn't give a toss. Never understood his popularity with fans. Some used to gasp and then applaud when he hit a 60 yard cross field ball that bounced off the Bob lord stand wall.
I think comedy value had something to with it: I remember one occasion where he was around 45 yards out, clearly instructed a team mate to 'leave it' and then, from a running start, proceeded to blast the ball somewhere in the direction of the Park View.
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Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:56 pm

Tyrone Mears is a decent shout.
I didn't think much of Danny Fox either.

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Post by Wembley09 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:08 pm

Andre Bikey was abit over rated by some Burnley fans.
On his 100% focused days, yes he looked outstanding (which were like 1 a season)

Remember one Tuesday night at Doncaster away, Burnley fans were chanting Bikey's name... while an obvious overweight Bikey was warming up down the side lines :D

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Post by NL Claret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:08 pm

HieronymousBoschHobs wrote:I think comedy value had something to with it: I remember one occasion where he was around 45 yards out, clearly instructed a team mate to 'leave it' and then, from a running start, proceeded to blast the ball somewhere in the direction of the Park View.
:D I'd imagine a few started chanting BeeeKaaay BeeeKaay BeeeKaay though.

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Post by Spike » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:15 am

Hancock we never got the Hancock’s Half hour!

Some really silly choices of current players on this thread!

Paul Stewart simply stole a wage from us!

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:07 am

Conroy92 wrote:How about the young lad John Cofie? Moved at 16 to united for a million, think I saw a poster saying he was in non league football now?
He was 14 when he left us and hardly anyone had heard of him so he couldn't really have been over rated. Last I heard he was playing in Australia for a low level team but I believe he had some serious back injuries at Manchester United.

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:08 am

Spike wrote:Paul Stewart simply stole a wage from us!
Is this the Paul Stewart who was having serious problems as we've more recently found out and shouldn't have even been playing because of an injury? I also believe we didn't pay him, Liverpool were paying his wages.

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:19 am

ClaretTony wrote:Is this the Paul Stewart who was having serious problems as we've more recently found out and shouldn't have even been playing because of an injury? I also believe we didn't pay him, Liverpool were paying his wages.
Valid point but the question is over-rated and he came in following two big money deals and with caps. More was expected than what we received.

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:28 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:Valid point but the question is over-rated and he came in following two big money deals and with caps. More was expected than what we received.
It's not that though, you just know when a thread like this starts you will see the names of Mark Kendall (who actually came in as a coach), Lee Pickering and Paul Stewart because they have become the go to's for this sort of thread for a lot of people.

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Post by claretcarrot93 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:31 am

The below is for assists in the season where JBG was injury free 2017/2018.

Not too shabby is it?

Pos Player Club Assists
1 Kevin De Bruyne Manchester City 16
2 Leroy Sane Manchester City 15
=3 David Silva Manchester City 11
=3 Raheem Sterling Manchester City 11
=5 Dele Alli Tottenham 10
=5 Paul Pogba Manchester United 10
=5 Christian Eriksen Tottenham 10
=5 Mohamed Salah Liverpool 10
=5 Riyad Mahrez Leicester City 10
10 Henrikh Mkhitaryan Arsenal 9
=11 Pascal Gross Brighton & Hove Albion 8
=11 Mesut Ozil Arsenal 8
=11 Johann Berg Gudmundsson Burnley 8
=11 Aaron Ramsey Arsenal 8
=15 Marc Albrighton Leicester City 7
=15 Roberto Firmino Liverpool 7
=15 Sadio Mane Liverpool 7
=15 Romelu Lukaku Manchester United 7
=15 Willian Chelsea 7
=15 Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Liverpool 7
=15 Chris Brunt West Brom 7
=15 Aaron Cresswell West Ham 7
=15 Granit Xhaka Arsenal 7
=15 Xherdan Shaqiri Stoke City 7
=15 Andros Townsend Crystal Palace 7
=26 Alexis Sanchez Manchester United 6
=26 Cesar Azpilicueta Chelsea 6
=26 Jordon Ibe Bournemouth 6
=26 Dominic Calvert-Lewin Everton 6
=26 Alvaro Morata Chelsea 6
=26 Joe Allen Stoke City 6
=26 Sergio Aguero Manchester City 6
=26 Kyle Walker Manchester City 6
=26 Ben Davies Tottenham 6
=26 Manuel Lanzini West Ham 6
=26 Marko Arnautovic West Ham 6
=26 Son Heung-min Tottenham 6

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