England v New Zealand

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:15 pm

Could really do with breaking this partnership up now
I fancy Wokes to do the damage 84 for 1

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:16 pm

No turn for Rashid.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:21 pm

We really do need a wicket

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:21 pm

I think the issue is the slope more than anything else. 2 and a half metres over the length of a cricket pitch is a big slope. It just suits bowlers from other countries better tbh and offsets the English conditions that suit our bowlers. The fact that our best bowler of all time hasn’t got a preference of end after all his years of playing says it all.

We should schedule a final for one of our preferred grounds like Edgbaston. You just can’t do that because of the history of Lords as the home of cricket but with home advantage it should be just that.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:22 pm

Michael Clarke just took the words out of my mouth, between now and 30 overs will be crucial to the outcome I feel, New Zealand heading for a 300 score which I feel in a chase in a World Cup Final the pressure may get to us, stating the obvious but we need 2/3 wickets and quickly to shake them up a bit

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:24 pm

claretburns wrote:Michael Clarke just took the words out of my mouth, between now and 30 overs will be crucial to the outcome I feel, New Zealand heading for a 300 score which I feel in a chase in a World Cup Final the pressure may get to us, stating the obvious but we need 2/3 wickets and quickly to shake them up a bit

If they get 300, we will be struggling I would think at Lord’s.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:25 pm

claret wizard wrote:Hussain was explaining that Jimmy hadn’t worked out what his best end was at Lords. Our win rate is really low. Even with a home advantage the slope puts so many variables into the game that we struggle to master it. Similar to a poor pitch at football. It’s harder to play on and acts as an equaliser between good and poor teams. Even a poor bowler will get something out of the Lords pitch. When you talking in very small % difference between the teams, the slope can drag a good bowler down and push a good bowler up (or visa versa). But it’s a variable that could be removed. So hence my comment on the sloppy pitch being an equaliser.

I tend to think that as England play at Lords more frequently, we should be able to adapt better than opposition teases who may only play there every four years. If anything it should be seen as a positive home advantage.

I think there are other contributing factors to our poor record there, most significantly the number of “five-day” pitches prepared, which offer little to the bowler and take away our “English conditions” advantage. Remember when Sri Lanka batter for about two days to save a game a few years ago?

I would also add the Home of Cricket factor and sterile atmosphere to that.

Edit: Jimmy’s record at Lords isn’t too shabby so I don’t think not knowing his best has hampered him. If anything it is that he is very good from both ends but he he’s just not sure which of the two is best.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:25 pm

Come on, couple of quick wickets.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:31 pm

Get in there.

Huge wicket.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:31 pm

Huge, thanks to Ultra Edge, could not see any contact at all on normal replays

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:31 pm

who'd have thunk it
Plunkett!!!!!!!!!

2 down

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:31 pm

Great review there get in

diamondpocket · Post by **diamondpocket** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:31 pm

any online links?

WestMidsClaret · Post by **WestMidsClaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:31 pm

Williamson gone. Huge wicket. Get Taylor soon and we're well in to them.

claret wizard · Post by **claret wizard** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:31 pm

Poor form not walking.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:32 pm

Good review

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:32 pm

Good job we appealed that what the umpires doing today usually very good these two

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:32 pm

That is the exact line and length we have been missing (Woakes apart) all morning.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:32 pm

That's a massive wicket for England. I don't think that umpire wants England to win.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:32 pm

That was a hell of a review call from Morgan.
No hesitation from him there

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:33 pm

The reviews are the best bit of cricket.

CMV.

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:33 pm

Taylor’s another key player. Early wicket for him would be massive.

Bangers&Mash · Post by **Bangers&Mash** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:34 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:Not sure what you mean by that but is a bowler allowed to ask an umpire if they think s batsmen has got an edge before reviewing a LBW?

For example a bowler may feel a batter is plumb LBW but knowing why an umpire had given it not out would they may think fair enough and not waste a review.

For example "I'd like to review that decision because I believe I got bat on it"

Nothing OTT, just a reason why they disagree with the decision made. Give us an idea what the other day went through Bairstows mind

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:34 pm

diamondpocket wrote:any online links?

According to Independent Sky Sports streaming online for free but cannot find the link.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:34 pm

Get them 150/4 and it's back with us.

It was a massive noise, I heard it from here.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:36 pm

diamondpocket wrote:any online links?

https://www.channel4.com/now/C4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://tvplayer.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:37 pm

I heard it from here, and I'm about 1,200 miles away.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:37 pm

Bosscat wrote:Great review there get in

What times the off for the grand prix BC I'm in the garden catching Ray's....15.10???

WestMidsClaret · Post by **WestMidsClaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:37 pm

MACCA wrote:Get them 150/4 and it's back with us.

It was a massive noise, I heard it from here.

I heard it from here and I'm not even in the same country

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:39 pm

Steve1956 wrote:What times the off for the grand prix BC I'm in the garden catching Ray's....15.10???

14:10 for the Grand Prix Steve, I believe Sky are offering a split screen on red button to watch both.

WestMidsClaret · Post by **WestMidsClaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:39 pm

Vino blanco wrote:I heard it from here, and I'm about 1,200 miles away.

Nearly 1,300 miles for me

diamondpocket · Post by **diamondpocket** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:46 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:https://www.channel4.com/now/C4

https://tvplayer.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

only available to UK viewers, I'm not in the UK

diamondpocket · Post by **diamondpocket** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:47 pm

WestMidsClaret wrote:Nearly 1,300 miles for me

Where are you watching it? Online?

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:47 pm

Bangers&Mash wrote:For example "I'd like to review that decision because I believe I got bat on it"

Nothing OTT, just a reason why they disagree with the decision made. Give us an idea what the other day went through Bairstows mind

It’d certainly be interesting to know why (e.g. Bairstow, Guptil today and any in Broad’s career!). Not sure what it would add as a rule though.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:48 pm

Steve1956 wrote:What times the off for the grand prix BC I'm in the garden catching Ray's....15.10???

Your pond must be huge if you are keeping Rays in it...

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ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:48 pm

Plunkett another

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:48 pm

Beauty from Plunkett

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:48 pm

Yes its turning 118 for 3

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:48 pm

And Nicholls goes get in

Plunkett gets another

WestMidsClaret · Post by **WestMidsClaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:50 pm

diamondpocket wrote:Where are you watching it? Online?

On channel 4 on the telly. Got sky sports too.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:50 pm

Miles better from Plunkett, hopefully the other England bowlers follow suit.

Stokes must have an injury but seems to be running round the outfield ok? Would have thought he might suit this pitch.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:56 pm

RVclaret wrote:Miles better from Plunkett, hopefully the other England bowlers follow suit.

Stokes must have an injury but seems to be running round the outfield ok? Would have thought he might suit this pitch.

After stopping a shot earlier looked like he had a calf injury but he was sprinting fine when stopping that 4 a couple of overs ago.

diamondpocket · Post by **diamondpocket** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:59 pm

WestMidsClaret wrote:On channel 4 on the telly. Got sky sports too.

1300 miles away, May I ask how?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:18 pm

Taylor gone

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:18 pm

Taylor gone for lbw

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:19 pm

Know doubt their Taylor gone for 15

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:19 pm

Wood strikes Taylor

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:19 pm

Great wicket. Looked a bit high to me on first view.

expoultryboy · Post by **expoultryboy** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:19 pm

Leg side and height ?

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:20 pm

Longside4evr wrote:Know doubt their Taylor gone for 15

And even if there was doubt there was nothing they could do about it