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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:20 pm

Looked to me as if it might have been going over

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby Vino blanco » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:20 pm

Good captaincy to bring Wood back on then. England bowling well.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:21 pm

Def missing

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby Longside4evr » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:21 pm

Yes same as when Bairstow went

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby claretburns » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:22 pm

MACCA wrote:Get them 150/4 and it's back with us.

It was a massive noise, I heard it from here.


You got your wish MACCA, 9 runs early as well.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:22 pm

Another bad decision but good for us for a change

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:22 pm

Not out had they had their review

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby Buxtonclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:23 pm

Still think one review is wrong.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:24 pm

Swings and roundabouts but proof again that you can never get 100% decisions correct in live sport.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby Chester Perry » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:25 pm

diamondpocket wrote:only available to UK viewers, I'm not in the UK


it is on www.cricfree.sc

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:25 pm

Tbh you can’t feel too sorry for them when Williamson doesn’t walk when he knows he’s hit it

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby box_of_frogs » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:27 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:Still think one review is wrong.

I quite like just the 1 review. Stops frivolous reviewing! You need to think about them!

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby MACCA » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:28 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:Still think one review is wrong.



Start having 2 or 3 and you may as well have an umpire.

I think ones enough and its upto the captain to use it wisely. NZ have been a bit sloppy with their batting one against us in both games now.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:29 pm

There should be some penalty for frivolous reviews. However, you want to get decisions correct.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby MACCA » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:30 pm

claretburns wrote:You got your wish MACCA, 9 runs early as well.



I can be greedy and ask for 190/6?

I can't see them getting 250 TBH.
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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:45 pm

Another for Plunkett

173/5

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby claretburns » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:45 pm

Plunkett with another, he really is good at claiming wickets, a very much unsung hero in the squad.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby Longside4evr » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:46 pm

Still a long way to go but that's what the doctor ordered

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:46 pm

Great stuff

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby RVclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:47 pm

Another quick one here and we could limit them to 230.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:50 pm

Bairstow is a beast on the boundary. Great fielder

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:51 pm

Every time I think NZ might be edging in front we take a wicket

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby WestMidsClaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:55 pm

Well bowled plunks.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby box_of_frogs » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:55 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Every time I think NZ might be edging in front we take a wicket

Best you keep thinking it then.......!

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby Buxtonclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:57 pm

Superb 10 overs, Liam.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:11 pm

Just reaching the point again where we need another wicket

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:23 pm

Six down, de Grandhomne gone

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby MACCA » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:24 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Just reaching the point again where we need another wicket


There you go

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby Longside4evr » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:25 pm

That's was needed we didn't need that partnership to carry through
We can do this now
230 240 if they lucky

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:30 pm

Longside4evr wrote:That's was needed we didn't need that partnership to carry through
We can do this now
230 240 if they lucky


We don’t want them getting many more than 240. That would potentially be a tough target.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby claret wizard » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:32 pm

270 is the par score at Lords.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:34 pm

claret wizard wrote:270 is the par score at Lords.


Not in these conditions though. 270 for me would be a frightening total to go for.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby Bosscat » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:34 pm

Woakes just went from the Ridiculous to the Sublime ....

4 wides followed by a wicket 232-7

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby Imploding Turtle » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:35 pm

Someone who knows about cricket, why does it matter that a ball pitches outside the stumps for LBW if it would still hit the wickets anyway?

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:35 pm

Interesting over with 5 wides, a wicket , free hit no ball and then nothing off the free hit.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:36 pm

238 with one over to go

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:37 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Someone who knows about cricket, why does it matter that a ball pitches outside the stumps for LBW if it would still hit the wickets anyway?


Can’t be out if it pitches outside leg stump.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby MACCA » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:39 pm

A sloppy last 3 overs there's 20 on this total that shouldn't be.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:40 pm

240/8 with 3 balls to go. First wicket for Archer.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:40 pm

Brendan McCullum happy with 240.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby Imploding Turtle » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:42 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Can’t be out if it pitches outside leg stump.



Ok. yes. I understand that bit, but why? I'm trying to understand the rationale behind the rule.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:43 pm

Finished on 241/8

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby Vino blanco » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:45 pm

I think the theory is that if the ball pitches outside leg stump, the trajectory of the ball is likely (possibly) to be in line to hit the leg anyway before the batsman has time to move his bat towards the ball.
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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:46 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Ok. yes. I understand that bit, but why? I'm trying to understand the rationale behind the rule.


If it was allowed it would be far to easy for a bowler to get an lbw if bowling over the wicket to a left hander or round the wicket to a right hander.
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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby Buxtonclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:49 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Ok. yes. I understand that bit, but why? I'm trying to understand the rationale behind the rule.


Would just make it too easy for the bowler if out pitching outside leg stump.
Makes sense really, if you think about it.

Beat me to it. :)
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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby LeadBelly » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:50 pm

A competitive total I think; if NZ bowl well it wont be a doddle chasing that down.
England bowled OK without it being at their best; 17 wides is too many.
England are strong favourites with the bookies (1/4 cf 3/1 for Kiwis) but a few early wickets would change that. All to play for still.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby Imploding Turtle » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:53 pm

Vino blanco wrote:I think the theory is that if the ball pitches outside leg stump, the trajectory of the ball is likely (possibly) to be in line to hit the leg anyway before the batsman has time to move his bat towards the ball.


Oh. Right. So is that because of what side the bowler is bowling from? I mean, if the bowler is bowling from the left and the ball pitches to the left of the wickets the batsman can't be out, but if he's bowling from the left and pitches to the right of the wickets and comes "back" then LBW is possible?

Or must it pitch in-line with the wickets no matter what side of the the bowler's bowling from?

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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:57 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Oh. Right. So is that because of what side the bowler is bowling from? I mean, if the bowler is bowling from the left and the ball pitches to the left of the wickets the batsman can't be out, but if he's bowling from the left and pitches to the right of the wickets and comes "back" then LBW is possible?

Or must it pitch in-line with the wickets no matter what side of the the bowler's bowling from?


Doesn’t have to pitch in line, can pitch outside off stump. Then it’s where the contact takes place dependent on whether the batsman is playing a shot.
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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby spadesclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:08 pm

IT, here is all you need to know -


You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out. When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.
When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out. When both sides have been in and all the men have been out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game
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Re: England v New Zealand

Postby Longside4evr » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:12 pm

Here we go come on England


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