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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:06 pm

I think we have to give New Zealand some real credit here. They posted a decent score in difficult batting conditions and they’ve bowled superbly.
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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:09 pm

It’s a World Cup, not a ODI series. There was no guaranteeing that England would be in the final. It would be akin to hosting the football World Cup and choosing to use Anfield for the final because England have a better record there than at Wembley.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by claretburns » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:09 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I think we have to give New Zealand some real credit here. They posted a decent score in difficult batting conditions and they’ve bowled superbly.
Absolutely, I know Root was stupid but personally this is a superb game from New Zealand.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:09 pm

Mike Gatting looks to have lost weight :lol:
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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:12 pm

I am amazed so many are just giving this up with Stokes and Buttler still at the crease.

Yes, we are on a sticky wicket but it's not Geoffrey Boycott at one end and Trevor Bailey at the other, :lol:

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by bobinho » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:12 pm

That’s the end of that then.

NZ been ever so good.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:15 pm

This is a classic example of medium pace quality line and length bowling being much harder to deal with than fast or spin, on this type of pitch. Thank god he’s finished now.....

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:16 pm

kentonclaret wrote:I am amazed so many are just giving this up with Stokes and Buttler still at the crease.

Yes, we are on a sticky wicket but it's not Geoffrey Boycott at one end and Trevor Bailey at the other, :lol:
Cringing at thought of Boycott on this wicket. He’d have scored at about half the rate of Root and made sure we lost as long as he wasn’t out. The anti team player of all time

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Goalposts » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:21 pm

The irony now is that the big hitters are doing the correct thing in nurdling it around now..

Get to 8 overs os so left then go for it

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Longside4evr » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:22 pm

Far to slow is this run rate we are going to need 8 + an over if this carries on soon to much to do

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:24 pm

Not an issue as long as these stay in. These 2 are capable of 8 an over later on

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:25 pm

Longside4evr wrote:Far to slow is this run rate we are going to need 8 + an over if this carries on soon to much to do
Because it is so difficult on this wicket. New Zealand never accelerated, just kept going at four and a bit per over.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by MDWat » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:25 pm

More than well in this game and have been all along. A lot of negative ninnies on here.
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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:28 pm

Keep the faith fellow clarets.

If it all goes pear shaped there are still the Ashes to look forward to.

Wade and Head have just posted centuries for Australia A. :roll:

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Goalposts » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:30 pm

Playing sensible cricket for the conditions now.. just keep nurdling it around for 5 or 6 an over with an odd boundary.. then it will come down to last 8 overs

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Tall Paul » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:31 pm

MDWat wrote:More than well in this game and have been all along. A lot of negative ninnies on here.
Yes it's far from over. Pretty much the definition of on a knife edge.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:35 pm

England 4/6 now

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:37 pm

These two have done well so far.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Longside4evr » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:38 pm

That's the beauty about cricket things can change very quickly
This partnership doing a good show keep going

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by taio » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:39 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:England 4/6 now
Bottled it again - six wickets down for just four runs. Don't think I'll bother watching it on catch up :D
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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Goalposts » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:43 pm

Cricket is simple when you play the conditions. I would still argue that the lords square does not suit englands aggressive style... but these two are playing it the correct way which shows them to be smart cricketers..and not just blasters.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by MACCA » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:45 pm

That was a very silly review, could cost them that.

Not even close with umpires call, so lose it now.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Goalposts » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:47 pm

I think that was driven by them wanting to break the partnership... the power is shifting in the game .. but all it takes is a wicket to change that

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:47 pm

MACCA wrote:That was a very silly review, could cost them that.

Not even close with umpires call, so lose it now.
Probably realise how key a wicket would be

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Billy Balfour » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:48 pm

This is a good tense game, though. Proper cricket.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Goalposts » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:50 pm

Yes it's like a game from 10 tears ago..one not seen to often in modern cricket
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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:51 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:This is a good tense game, though. Proper cricket.
It’s enthralling stuff now. Really is proper cricket.
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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:56 pm

Too tight to call.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Longside4evr » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:56 pm

Theirs light at the end of the tunnel
Can you see it :D

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:02 pm

What a genius strike that was from Butler

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by MACCA » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:03 pm

It's a great game for the neutral, its swinging one way than the other with every wicket. The last 8 are going to be explosive

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:04 pm

Time for the party tricks :lol:

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:05 pm

Lancs declared on 494/6
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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:05 pm

Just mentioned a super over decider, if it finishes a tie. I hope Buttler not taking the run out from the last ball off their innings doesn’t come into play.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by claretburns » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:08 pm

Question with the power play, when you're not allowed more than 5 fielders outside of the circle, is this just when you're setting the field before the shot, or after a shot is taken you're still only allowed 5 fielders, so a player within the circle can't chase a ball out of it?

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Goalposts » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:09 pm

No the fielders have to be inside the circle at the time the balls delivered
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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:10 pm

claretburns wrote:Question with the power play, when you're not allowed more than 5 fielders outside of the circle, is this just when you're setting the field before the shot, or after a shot is taken you're still only allowed 5 fielders, so a player within the circle can't chase a ball out of it?
At the time of delivery
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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Goalposts » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:13 pm

I think I'd tell stokes to go for it now and have butler keep nurdling..stokes looks a bit iffy..free him up now

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Goalposts » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:18 pm

It's coming down to butler this..stokes needs to weigh in..his strike rate needs to go up or get woakes in.. well either get a 12 over in or woakes strike rate hopefully will be better

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:18 pm

No idea how he can play that shot!
It's just outrageous. :lol:

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:21 pm

Great 50 Butler.
100 partnership.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:22 pm

Whatever happens now, these two have brilliant. If they can stay there we can get these.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Blackrod » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:23 pm

Never thought I’d swap watching Tennis for cricket but enjoying this.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:26 pm

Oh no Jos

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:26 pm

Balls

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:26 pm

Jos gone. Stokes has to stay now.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by MDWat » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:26 pm

Horrendous shot.

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:27 pm

It's a bugger. :(

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Goalposts » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:28 pm

Umm stokes needs to step up now..one man u didnt want to go of the two

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Re: England v New Zealand

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:30 pm

Are they playing with a heavy ball?
I believe we’ve still only had one 6 in the match.

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