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Maguire goes to United

Postby cblantfanclub » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:21 pm

Let's hope this doesn't bite us.
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Re: Maguire goes to united

Postby Foulthrow » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:29 pm

Source?

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Re: Maguire goes to united

Postby elwaclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:30 pm

Really don’t understand the obsession with Maguire. He seems like a bog standard 1980’s Centre Back to me. Think he’ll need plenty of protection against pace and quick feet.

I don’t expect OGS to last until Christmas. I may be wrong but this seems like a massive waste of money.

Will start the merry go round, hope we forgot o buy a ticket.
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Re: Maguire goes to united

Postby FactualFrank » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:30 pm

He'll be worth every penny so long as Man U can enter the next World Cup.

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Re: Maguire goes to united

Postby CoolClaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:36 pm

Maguire is bang average, nowhere near the same class as VVD.

The game's gone & United are absolute mugs.
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Re: Maguire goes to united

Postby jdrobbo » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:40 pm

Hmmmmn how to sum this up, rationally I hope...

Maguire is an excellent central defender. He leads well, dies the basics well and can carry a ball outcdefwnce effectively. United are paying £80,000,000 for him.

Ok....

Tarkowski is more dominant aerially and is stronger physically. He does the basics well and can ping a pass but is not quite as good in possession.

If Maguire is worth £80,000,000 in this market, we should NOT ENTERTAIN offers that are under £50,000,000.
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Re: Maguire goes to united

Postby jrgbfc » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:48 pm

jdrobbo wrote:Hmmmmn how to sum this up, rationally I hope...

Maguire is an excellent central defender. He leads well, dies the basics well and can carry a ball outcdefwnce effectively. United are paying £80,000,000 for him.

Ok....

Tarkowski is more dominant aerially and is stronger physically. He does the basics well and can ping a pass but is not quite as good in possession.

If Maguire is worth £80,000,000 in this market, we should NOT ENTERTAIN offers that are under £50,000,000.


Not sure I'd agree Tarks is as good in the air as Maguire tbh. I get the feeling Leicester are more likely to go for Dunk anyway.

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Re: Maguire goes to united

Postby bobinho » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:53 pm

Strange world is footy now. If we swapped tarks for maguire, it’s be ok. If we didn’t, it’s still be ok. £80m for one.... what’s the other worth. I’d bet an inch of my dick we won’t see half that fee for tarks. Not even close.

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Re: Maguire goes to united

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:53 pm

jdrobbo wrote:Hmmmmn how to sum this up, rationally I hope...

Maguire is an excellent central defender. He leads well, dies the basics well and can carry a ball outcdefwnce effectively. United are paying £80,000,000 for him.

Ok....

Tarkowski is more dominant aerially and is stronger physically. He does the basics well and can ping a pass but is not quite as good in possession.

If Maguire is worth £80,000,000 in this market, we should NOT ENTERTAIN offers that are under £50,000,000.


I’d say Maguire is the more dominant in the air.
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Re: Maguire goes to united

Postby Winstonswhite » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:54 pm

He’s ok Maguire but when you see Juve signing Matthijs de Ligt for 70 million you’ve got to wonder what Utd are doing and how the “Premier League premium” that goes with any domestic signings is just ridiculous.

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Re: Maguire goes to united

Postby Longside4evr » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:54 pm

All the money this club as made on selling players in recent times
They should be made to pay back their failings when they played there ace card and blow all red away
Hate that club and everything that happened since
Talk about the great escape this lot did the Houdini

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Re: Maguire goes to united

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:55 pm

Isn’t Leicester’s target Lewis Dunk?
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Re: Maguire goes to united

Postby Rick_Muller » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:55 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I’d say Maguire is the more dominant in the air.

He does have a larger forehead so you’d expect it...
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Re: Maguire goes to united

Postby Crewe claret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:03 pm

The Sun reporting Dunk to Leicester £45million

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Re: Maguire goes to united

Postby Bosscat » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:05 pm

Crewe claret wrote:The Sun reporting Dunk to Leicester £45million

If Dunk is worth 45 Million oh dear oh dear oh dear
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Re: Maguire goes to united

Postby Reecey1987 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:07 pm

Crewe claret wrote:The Sun reporting Dunk to Leicester £45million

If dunks the cheaper option i wonder how much tarks is worth ?

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Re: Maguire goes to united

Postby blake's wand » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:08 pm

Maguire had an excellent world cup - probably adds at least £20m on his fee. I'd be surprised if we can get more than £30m for Tarks. Even if Man U only think he is a few % better than Tarks, that few % at the very top end can mean a whole different level of transfer fee.

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Re: Maguire goes to united

Postby Longside4evr » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:10 pm

That Tarko starting for us this coming season then happy days
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Re: Maguire goes to united

Postby Murger » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:10 pm

Maguire is better than Tarks or Mee. But he's not worth £80m.

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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby LeadBelly » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:26 pm

Maguire is better than Jones or Smalling (the latter has been decent some seasons but not lately), I think Maguire and Linlelof would be a decent pairing. With Wan-Bissaka in and Shaw getting back to decent form, that will be a much better back4 that Man U have had for a couple of seasons.
I doubt they'll trouble the top 4 with their current options up front though.

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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:46 pm

Obscene money for a very very average footballer.
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Re: Maguire goes to united

Postby claretdj » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:06 pm

Murger wrote:Maguire is better than Tarks or Mee. But he's not worth £80m.

How is he better than tarks? The titanic turns quicker than Maguire! Just sayin.. :D

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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby kentonclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:22 pm

Surely the obscene amount of money being quoted on here is £45m for Dunk :?:

Especially as one poster seems willing to accept £30m for Tarks :roll:

After paying the sell on fee to Brentford that will leave us with diddly squat.

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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:34 pm

Looks like United are going for Europa league qualification next season,are they actually paying more for Maguire than Liverpool paid for VVD,it's going to end in tears at that club once again this season OGS gone by Christmas.

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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby FactualFrank » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:36 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Looks like United are going for Europa league qualification next season,are they actually paying more for Maguire than Liverpool paid for VVD,it's going to end in tears at that club once again this season OGS gone by Christmas.


I'm surprised the board sanctioned the move. I sense a touch of desperation with Man U. Fergie left them collapsing and they've never recovered.
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Postby dermotdermot » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:41 pm

Longside4evr wrote:That Tarko starting for us this coming season then happy days


Everton are after him now.

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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:41 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I'm surprised the board sanctioned the move. I sense a touch of desperation with Man U. Fergie left them collapsing and they've never recovered.

Fergie knew his time was up,and so it proved him right the club is in a mess, A guy who failed at Cardiff City is in charge FFs who sanctioned giving him a contract on the back of a honeymoon period he had for a couple of months,now 80 Million pound for an average center back ....Wow just Wow :roll:
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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:49 pm

The issue is the manager at Man U. Not up to it imo

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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby Spijed » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:54 pm

For £80 million you'd expect a world class defender and one of the best around

Does anyone seriously think he is at that level. He doesn't even come close to VVD.

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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby The Enclosure » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:57 pm

United have been stitched up big time.

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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby jrgbfc » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:57 pm

Even in Fergies last year or 2 they were making some bad decisions as a club. Bringing Scholes out of retirement instead of properly sorting out the centre mid issue. Ed Woodward has got too much control over the football side of things. He's probably an excellent business/money making man, but he hasn't got a clue about football.

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Postby Devils_Advocate » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:01 pm

For £80m which better Centre Back would Utd be able to sign this summer?

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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby todclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:01 pm

The Mirror reporting that Leicester have lined up Dunk as replacement...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... y-18209162

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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby Rick_Muller » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:06 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:For £80m which better Centre Back would Utd be able to sign this summer?

Ummm, Tarkowski....???
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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby Squarepusher » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:06 pm

£45 million for Dunk :mrgreen:

That's it. Football's officially over now. We can all go home.

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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby Devils_Advocate » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:07 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:Ummm, Tarkowski....???

Ha Ha good one :lol:
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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby Royboyclaret » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:07 pm

Spijed wrote:For £80 million you'd expect a world class defender and one of the best around

Does anyone seriously think he is at that level. He doesn't even come close to VVD.


Purely down to market forces. VVD has been at Liverpool for 18 months and for the forthcoming season we enter a new and improved TV deal. No surprise at all at the fee Leicester required particularly when United came calling.

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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:09 pm

Spijed wrote:For £80 million you'd expect a world class defender and one of the best around

Does anyone seriously think he is at that level. He doesn't even come close to VVD.


No, but you wouldn’t get VVD for anything like that price now so the comparison in fees is pointless.

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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby Rileybobs » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:10 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:Ummm, Tarkowski....???


Does anybody outside of Burnley consider Tarkowski to be better than Maguire? There is a reason why he is chosen to start for England and why he is being signed by Manchester United.

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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby Spijed » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:11 pm

Maguire has absolutely no positional sense to be a top class defender. Just look at the number of times Terry, Ferdinand were able to read the danger signs and cut out any problems.

Maguire doesn't come close to having the same awareness.
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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby Rileybobs » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:11 pm

Spijed wrote:Maguire has absolutely no positional sense to be a top class defender. Just look at the number of times Terry, Ferdinand were able to read the danger signs and cut out any problems.

Maguire doesn't come close to having the same awareness.


Terry and Ferdinand have both retired. The game has moved on.

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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby Rick_Muller » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:14 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Does anybody outside of Burnley consider Tarkowski to be better than Maguire? There is a reason why he is chosen to start for England and why he is being signed by Manchester United.

Ok, tongue firmly in cheek in my comment, but that said Maguire isn’t an £80M player, but if that’s what Man Utd are willing to pay then I suppose he is and they’re fools. Without Claret tinted specs, Tarkowski isn’t that much better or worse than Maguire, there really isn’t much between them IMO. The difference is that Tarkowski plays for unfashionable Burnley and Maguire plays for media darlings Leicester (or did).
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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby gawthorpe_view » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:15 pm

If this is true, Brighton will have a vacancy and serious money in the bank...

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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby Spijed » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:15 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Terry and Ferdinand have both retired. The game has moved on.


And Maguire still isn't a top class defender, so don't know what point your making.
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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby Rileybobs » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:18 pm

Spijed wrote:And Maguire still isn't a top class defender, so don't know what point your making.


He’s one of the best centre backs in the country. This is a fact. Is he as good as Terry or Ferdinand in their prime, no. But neither Terry or Ferdinand play any more. So on that basis he is a top class defender by current standards.
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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby taio » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:18 pm

Spijed wrote:And Maguire still isn't a top class defender, so don't know what point your making.


The point is obvious to be fair. Ferdinand and Terry would be worth more than Maguire if they were in their mid-twenties in today's market.

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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:20 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Terry and Ferdinand have both retired. The game has moved on.


Clearly not for spijed
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Re: Maguire goes to United

Postby Rileybobs » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:20 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:Ok, tongue firmly in cheek in my comment, but that said Maguire isn’t an £80M player, but if that’s what Man Utd are willing to pay then I suppose he is and they’re fools. Without Claret tinted specs, Tarkowski isn’t that much better or worse than Maguire, there really isn’t much between them IMO. The difference is that Tarkowski plays for unfashionable Burnley and Maguire plays for media darlings Leicester (or did).


Those outside of Burnley clearly consider Maguire to be a better player than Tarkowski. I very much doubt that those in the England and Man Utd set up think that Tarkowski is better but inexplicably favour Maguire because he doesn’t play for unfashionable Burnley. It doesn’t make sense.


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