The Open
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Good start for Tiger. Don’t rule him out.
You can probably rule Rory out now. Just as well I didn’t tip him. Figured the pressure of a home fixture may not help.
You can probably rule Rory out now. Just as well I didn’t tip him. Figured the pressure of a home fixture may not help.
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Know the feeling!claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Rory showing you should never putt while having a tantrum
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Think it's time Mcllroy considered going back to having a proper caddy instead of one of his mates on the bag. Hasn't helped his game at all. As others have pointed out it seems like he's going backwards.
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Rory’s poor performance shouldn’t come as a shock to anyone. Over the last 5 seasons or so he’s rarely performed well when expectations are high. One only needs to look at his less than stellar Masters efforts to figure out the problem is between his ears. When he’s on his game, he’s more or less unbeatable, unfortunately, over the last few years, that rarely happens when the pressures on.
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He's had 10 top 10 finishes this year alone including 2 winsSteve1956 wrote:The rankings have him at three on past glories not current form,like you said screw the rankings
No one else in the world has come close to anything like that this year
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He ended 2018 ranked 8th in the world, currently ranked 3rd so he must've done something half decent this year.
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Ok,hes just a bottler in the Majors then!! Stop making excuses for the guyCBT wrote:He's had 10 top 10 finishes this year alone including 2 wins
No one else in the world has come close to anything like that this year
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10 pound win on David duval fingers crossed
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Longsidelenny wrote:10 pound win on David duval fingers crossed
10 pound on David Beckham would have given you a better run for your money Lenny
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He's won 4 majorsSteve1956 wrote:Ok,hes just a bottler in the Majors then!! Stop making excuses for the guy
There'll be only 4 or 5 players playing at this open who can match /better that and 3 or 4 of them will be 40+
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is that to finish first or last?Longsidelenny wrote:10 pound win on David duval fingers crossed
if its the latter you quids in
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CBT wrote:He's won 4 majors
There'll be only 4 or 5 players playing at this open who can match /better that and 3 or 4 of them will be 40+
You can’t keep explaining to people that just don’t understand....
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And hes in decline,he wont even make the cut,you dont understand do you?Hibsclaret wrote:You can’t keep explaining to people that just don’t understand....
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So when Man City lost a game last season they were in decline....same scenario
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Tiger and Rory can share a plane back over the pond
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No comparison! Forget it,hes a magnificent golfer,your very blinkered in your defence of a guy the bottles every major hes played in recently all I said he had peaked and he has end of chat.Hibsclaret wrote:So when Man City lost a game last season they were in decline....same scenario
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But his last Major win was 5 years ago. I may be wrong but I can't recall him seriously challenging in many of them in recent years either. He seems to keep starting badly then turning it on when the pressures off when it's too late.CBT wrote:He's won 4 majors
There'll be only 4 or 5 players playing at this open who can match /better that and 3 or 4 of them will be 40+
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His problem wasn't of his own doing in my eyesSteve1956 wrote:No comparison! Forget it,hes a magnificent golfer,your very blinkered in your defence of a guy the bottles every major hes played in recently all I said he had peaked and he has end of chat.
He was billed to be the next tiger woods at an early age
He hasn't been that and probably won't be but him and koepka are best in the world at the min and neither are in decline continue chat
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Like I say he probably won't win majors year in year out but his record in this year's tour suggest he's on the up definitely not the downjrgbfc wrote:But his last Major win was 5 years ago. I may be wrong but I can't recall him seriously challenging in many of them in recent years either. He seems to keep starting badly then turning it on when the pressures off when it's too late.
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He was 21st at the Masters and top ten at the other 2 majors this year. The stats say he’s not declining and I think the pressure this week is too much. Everyone will want a piece of him and he won’t want to let people down.
Koepka is looking good it has to be said
Koepka is looking good it has to be said
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The best player of all time had 8 majors at Rory’s age. Nothing to stop him adding another 4 based on that. You can’t write a golfer off at 30 as he’s arguably not even reached his peak.
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Really can't understand why koepka only does it at the majors not sure he's even won another tour eventHibsclaret wrote:He was 21st at the Masters and top ten at the other 2 majors this year. The stats say he’s not declining and I think the pressure this week is too much. Everyone will want a piece of him and he won’t want to let people down.
Koepka is looking good it has to be said
He always looks the perfect golfer
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He’s looking dangerous that’s for sure. Reminds me of when Tiger won at Hoylake, just absolute control of a golf ball.
Also, final point on Rory. Mickelson was 33 when he won his first major...for context
Also, final point on Rory. Mickelson was 33 when he won his first major...for context
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Fleetwood finished with a bogey-free 68,he'll be in the mix come Sunday.Sergio also in the clubhouse at -3,his experience could be vital over the weekend.
Tiger and Rory might not even make to the weekend,not what the promoters would be looking for.
Tiger and Rory might not even make to the weekend,not what the promoters would be looking for.
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I’ve said this before but 9 years ago I was stood right next to Rory when he had a big lead and went to sit in a minibus at St Andrews when the wind was up and the balls were moving. He was a rabbit in the headlights. That day, I knew that his mentality would never be good enough to be a legend (10+ majors), just a few majors due to his huge talent.
It’s such a waste, and so predictable. Yet my heart ruled my head and I still predicted he would win. Luckily I don’t gamble.
It’s such a waste, and so predictable. Yet my heart ruled my head and I still predicted he would win. Luckily I don’t gamble.
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Tommy!!! That shirt is fecking hideous!!! Going well though
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can't possibly win with a shirt like that.Steve1956 wrote: Tommy!!! That shirt is fecking hideous!!! Going well though
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“Just a few majors....”CrosspoolClarets wrote:I’ve said this before but 9 years ago I was stood right next to Rory when he had a big lead and went to sit in a minibus at St Andrews when the wind was up and the balls were moving. He was a rabbit in the headlights. That day, I knew that his mentality would never be good enough to be a legend (10+ majors), just a few majors due to his huge talent.
It’s such a waste, and so predictable. Yet my heart ruled my head and I still predicted he would win. Luckily I don’t gamble.
“Such a waste....”
Only 19 men in the history of the game have won more majors than him. He’s not doing too bad to say he’s only 30 !
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Rory fighting back,pity you couldn't do it yesterday
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Good effort Rory ...hard luck,just missed the cut
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Would be fabulous to see Lee Westwood finally win a major.
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No it wouldn’t, he’s an arseLoveCurryPies wrote:Would be fabulous to see Lee Westwood finally win a major.
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Has he turned up in our old green and black top.claretnproud wrote:can't possibly win with a shirt like that.
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Why is he an arse?joey13 wrote:No it wouldn’t, he’s an arse
43 tournament wins is impressive.
Did you mean in his personal life?
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Arrogant , in fairness like most pro golfersLoveCurryPies wrote:Why is he an arse?
43 tournament wins is impressive.
Did you mean in his personal life?
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Credit to Rory today, I like him, but that’s the problem. Woods, Koepka, Spieth - you wouldn’t have a pint with any of them. But they are winners. Cold blooded assassins. Rory has talent the rest would die for. His mentality though is pi55 poor (by the standards of the other guys I mentioned).Winstonswhite wrote:“Just a few majors....”
“Such a waste....”
Only 19 men in the history of the game have won more majors than him. He’s not doing too bad to say he’s only 30 !
The reality is, when the pressure is on, he folds. He can blast a field when he has a big lead, but how many majors has he won when it was nip and tuck to the death? He won his first two by huge margins. Then the Open at Hoylake he won by two but was seven clear. Only the 2014 PGA is the exception that proves the rule.
He is a walking bottle job, bless him. The first major is meant to settle you down, not make it worse. I don’t know who his psychologist is but he needs a new one. As fans, we have to raise our standards. It isn’t even close to being good enough, given his huge talent.
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I’ve always liked Lee. Are you confusing confident with arrogant?joey13 wrote:Arrogant , in fairness like most pro golfers
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No he’s arrogant,remember when he was in with a chance of winning an Open and had a poor final round ,when interviewed after said “who cares it’s only the open and I’ve got enough money “ , after that I thought I hope you never win it now you arrogant tosserLoveCurryPies wrote:I’ve always liked Lee. Are you confusing confident with arrogant?
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You really take talking bs to a new level. Rory has more majors than Spieth for a start, is world ranked higher and has not had a dip in form like Spieth (who last won a tournament 2 years ago).CrosspoolClarets wrote:Credit to Rory today, I like him, but that’s the problem. Woods, Koepka, Spieth - you wouldn’t have a pint with any of them. But they are winners. Cold blooded assassins. Rory has talent the rest would die for. His mentality though is pi55 poor (by the standards of the other guys I mentioned).
The reality is, when the pressure is on, he folds. He can blast a field when he has a big lead, but how many majors has he won when it was nip and tuck to the death? He won his first two by huge margins. Then the Open at Hoylake he won by two but was seven clear. Only the 2014 PGA is the exception that proves the rule.
He is a walking bottle job, bless him. The first major is meant to settle you down, not make it worse. I don’t know who his psychologist is but he needs a new one. As fans, we have to raise our standards. It isn’t even close to being good enough, given his huge talent.
A bottle job could be applied to someone such as Westwood or Montgomerie (the ones that have tried the best part of 80 times to win a major and never done it). I would not even suggest that given how hard the game is and how great those 2 players were.
Rory proved again yesterday how great he is to almost make the cut. One of our true greats that only needs 2 majors to match Faldo (who won his first major at Rory’s current age)
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The problem with Mcilroy is game management, booming drives 350yards when his short wedge game has never been the bestHibsclaret wrote:You really take talking bs to a new level. Rory has more majors than Spieth for a start, is world ranked higher and has not had a dip in form like Spieth (who last won a tournament 2 years ago).
A bottle job could be applied to someone such as Westwood or Montgomerie (the ones that have tried the best part of 80 times to win a major and never done it). I would not even suggest that given how hard the game is and how great those 2 players were.
Rory proved again yesterday how great he is to almost make the cut. One of our true greats that only needs 2 majors to match Faldo (who won his first major at Rory’s current age)
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I wish my short game was that bad
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Rory having his best mate on the bag instead of a proper caddy clearly isn't doing him any favours. With all the Majors done for this year he needs to go and have a serious think about the rest of his career now as I feel like he's at a bit of a crossroads.
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He can afford to do what he likes. If he wants his mate on his bag then so be it. He never needs to work again and so has earned the right to do as he pleases. We’d all love to be in that position.
He can still fire the lowest round of the Open when he’s on it along with the longest drive of the day. He must be doing something right.
He can still fire the lowest round of the Open when he’s on it along with the longest drive of the day. He must be doing something right.
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If he hasn't got the drive to keep winning why not pack in now then? As you say he'll have made enough money to set him and his family up for life and then some.Hibsclaret wrote:He can afford to do what he likes. If he wants his mate on his bag then so be it. He never needs to work again and so has earned the right to do as he pleases. We’d all love to be in that position.
He can still fire the lowest round of the Open when he’s on it along with the longest drive of the day. He must be doing something right.
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From The Independent. I agree with every word. I detest unfulfilled potential, suggesting he has done well to win 4 majors is way off the mark. His talent is beyond any U.K. player ever. This is a guy who insists on having his best friend on his bag, has a massive commercial involvement, and refuses most expert assistance off the course. Questions deserve to be asked. To put it another way, he isn’t a Sean Dyche player.Hibsclaret wrote:You really take talking bs to a new level. Rory has more majors than Spieth for a start, is world ranked higher and has not had a dip in form like Spieth (who last won a tournament 2 years ago).
A bottle job could be applied to someone such as Westwood or Montgomerie (the ones that have tried the best part of 80 times to win a major and never done it). I would not even suggest that given how hard the game is and how great those 2 players were.
Rory proved again yesterday how great he is to almost make the cut. One of our true greats that only needs 2 majors to match Faldo (who won his first major at Rory’s current age)
Golf Channel analyst Brandel Chamblee was blunt in his assessment, finding the performance to be sadly predictable.
He backed up his words by noting that McIlroy's first-round average in his previous 18 majors had been 72.1 strokes, 1.7 strokes worse than the second and third rounds, and 3.1 shots worse than the final round.
"This is nothing new what we saw today," Chamblee said.
"He has had historically just a bad run of first rounds. He consistently gets off to a bad start and then ... when the pressure is gone, all that talent arises and then he plays a beautiful second or third or fourth round.
"When someone consistently performs under expectations, the word is choking."
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Similarities with Rory and Greg Norman? Both brilliant golfers and seem like decent blokes but perhaps not quite got the winning mentality? Compared to say Faldo or Woods, for who winning was everything and they didn't care how unpopular they were or who they upset.
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Maybe he’d rather be popular than a miserable sod like Faldo and Woods.
The fact remains that he has 4 majors at 30 when Faldo had none.
Rory is more like Seve was than the likes of Faldo and that’s fine by me and most of the people that watch golf. You only have to see how the crowds follow him just to see if he makes the cut.
I went to the Open in 91 at Birkdale when Faldo was at his best. I followed Seve all day because frankly it was more exciting than watching someone par every hole.
The fact remains that he has 4 majors at 30 when Faldo had none.
Rory is more like Seve was than the likes of Faldo and that’s fine by me and most of the people that watch golf. You only have to see how the crowds follow him just to see if he makes the cut.
I went to the Open in 91 at Birkdale when Faldo was at his best. I followed Seve all day because frankly it was more exciting than watching someone par every hole.
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On Thursday Rory played like an amateurHibsclaret wrote:Maybe he’d rather be popular than a miserable sod like Faldo and Woods.
The fact remains that he has 4 majors at 30 when Faldo had none.
Rory is more like Seve was than the likes of Faldo and that’s fine by me and most of the people that watch golf. You only have to see how the crowds follow him just to see if he makes the cut.
I went to the Open in 91 at Birkdale when Faldo was at his best. I followed Seve all day because frankly it was more exciting than watching someone par every hole.
On Friday he played like he can,you just can't turn up and turn it on and expect to win
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And yet he still beat Woods and Mickelson. Did they just turn up and expect to win?
Anyone who knows anything about golf knows that the best players miss the odd cut.
Anyone who knows anything about golf knows that the best players miss the odd cut.
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Ok Hibs I bow to your superior knowledge of the game.