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A lot of people aren’t fans of the new sponsors ...

Post by bfccrazy » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:24 pm

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Just goes to show how far we’re coming off the pitch though and the figures we can now get for sponsorships etc ..

Some surprising ones we’re above in the list even though the sponsor is huge and also mad how many gambling firms there are.

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Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:28 pm

Goes to prove the huge sums of money we’re dealing with. Which is why I find it very naive when some people suggested we took the moral high ground and put Pendleside Hospice on our shirts. Sure, that would be a nice thing to do but not many businesses can afford to turn down £7.5m p/a.
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Post by dpinsussex » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:34 pm

Ignoring the top 6 we aren't a million miles away from the best of the rest
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Post by Royboyclaret » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:36 pm

Edit.

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Post by Vino blanco » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:39 pm

Great news. Delighted to have Lovebet as sponsors. Long may the lolly keep rolling in.
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Post by boatshed bill » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:45 pm

I absolutely hate it, but it's where we are these days.
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Post by aggi » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:47 pm

It's obviously very, very unlikely that the details of all of these deals are in the public domain. I'd take this with a hefty pinch of salt.
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Post by Tricky Trevor » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:50 pm

£4.5m more than Norwich are getting from Dafabet. If we were getting similar from them that is an amount we can’t say no to.
I’m treating LaBa360 and Lovebet as the same company. After reading, on here, that they are connected.

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Post by Vino blanco » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:50 pm

Aren't the details published in the company accounts?

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Post by JimMcDonald » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:50 pm

Brilliant. Cheers LoveBet. Superb for our club. Looks great on the shirt too !
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Post by claptrappers_union » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:53 pm

Taking the fee out of the equation, which one of those sponsors from that list would you prefer to see on a Burnley shirt?

The only British one is Standard Chartered and it’s the cleanest logo of the lot, so I’d go with that one.

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Post by TsarBomba » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:54 pm

There is absolutely no chance we are getting nearly double than Leicester.

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Post by Spijed » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:58 pm

How on earth would they know what we are getting, likewise with other clubs?

I suspect those figures are guesswork as I can't imagine Mike Garlick divulging our sponsorship deals.

The same goes for most other clubs.

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Post by Spijed » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:59 pm

Vino blanco wrote:Aren't the details published in the company accounts?
But even if they are they won't appear until the next set of accounts.

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Post by dpinsussex » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:59 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:Taking the fee out of the equation, which one of those sponsors from that list would you prefer to see on a Burnley shirt?

The only British one is Standard Chartered and it’s the cleanest logo of the lot, so I’d go with that one.
British but trading out of Africa, middle east and far east lol

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Post by JohnMcGreal » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:00 pm

Just shows how much money these grubby outfits are making off the backs of poor punters.

Quite depressing.
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Post by dpinsussex » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:00 pm

Serious question though. Does anyone actually buy from the sponsors on the football clubs shirts. I dont think I have ever bought from any of the sponsors

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Post by JimMcDonald » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:10 pm

dpinsussex wrote:Serious question though. Does anyone actually buy from the sponsors on the football clubs shirts. I dont think I have ever bought from any of the sponsors
If you haven't had a Hollands pie are you even a Burnley fan ?

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Post by IanMcL » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:11 pm

Well done for achieving that!

Decent funding.

We have to bear in mind that some owners are the sponsors, too, albeit arms length. The amounts may change to suit the need. Hence, why Leicester appears low.
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Post by wilks_bfc » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:12 pm

TsarBomba wrote:There is absolutely no chance we are getting nearly double than Leicester.
Aren’t King Power owners by the clubs owners?

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Post by NL Claret » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:15 pm

dpinsussex wrote:Serious question though. Does anyone actually buy from the sponsors on the football clubs shirts. I dont think I have ever bought from any of the sponsors
Hollands pies ruined my waistline, my p3 computer doesn't work anymore and my poco home got repossessed.

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Post by CoolClaret » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:25 pm

TsarBomba wrote:There is absolutely no chance we are getting nearly double than Leicester.
Of course there is.

Half the reason of the massive increased TV rights money in the PL is due to the increasing subscriptions in the Asian Market & especially Chinese market

If love bet are a big player over there, then they'll pay top, top dollar to get on any PL teams shirt.

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Post by aggi » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:27 pm

Vino blanco wrote:Aren't the details published in the company accounts?
Nope. Not at that kind of detail.

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Post by dsr » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:38 pm

Spijed wrote:How on earth would they know what we are getting, likewise with other clubs?

I suspect those figures are guesswork as I can't imagine Mike Garlick divulging our sponsorship deals.

The same goes for most other clubs.
It's possible that the sponsoring companies have given details, either voluntarily or because legislation says they have to.

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:01 pm

NL Claret wrote:Hollands pies ruined my waistline, my p3 computer doesn't work anymore and my poco home got repossessed.
by TSB and Endsleigh wouldn't pay out when your computer blew

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Post by Claretmatt4 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:04 pm

Amex is so low. Did Brighton have to take a low deal as part of them laying for their stadium? If so for how long?

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Post by Leisure » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:12 pm

dpinsussex wrote:Serious question though. Does anyone actually buy from the sponsors on the football clubs shirts. I dont think I have ever bought from any of the sponsors
Neither have I but the advertising isn't really aimed at our fans, it's to reach the worldwide TV audience of the Premier League.

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Post by Bin Ont Turf » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:23 pm

It's nowhere near enough to have that shite on our shirts.

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Post by tim_noone » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:28 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:It's nowhere near enough to have that shite on our shirts.
Maybe "James Hargreaves" could sponsor the shirt instead. :D

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:37 pm

Shutting our eyes and enjoying listening to the jingling of coins coming in from the Far East is something this country has got far too used to in recent years, whether it be funding coming in from dodgy governments with strings attached or in this case gambling money coming from organisations who get it from customers, many of whom will obviously be addicts (hence why I see it as morally bankrupt).

As regards BFC we now liberally sprinkle gambling encouragement over Twitter on official feeds (e.g. our other main sponsor), with no way of hiding it (even from kids) if they want to still see breaking news. Where will it end? It ruins lives, but it’s OK because we might finish a spot or two higher up the table with that extra few million.

So no, I see what the OP is writing about, but I see it as the thin end of a very long wedge.
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Post by bfccrazy » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:49 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:Shutting our eyes and enjoying listening to the jingling of coins coming in from the Far East is something this country has got far too used to in recent years, whether it be funding coming in from dodgy governments with strings attached or in this case gambling money coming from organisations who get it from customers, many of whom will obviously be addicts (hence why I see it as morally bankrupt).

As regards BFC we now liberally sprinkle gambling encouragement over Twitter on official feeds (e.g. our other main sponsor), with no way of hiding it (even from kids) if they want to still see breaking news. Where will it end? It ruins lives, but it’s OK because we might finish a spot or two higher up the table with that extra few million.

So no, I see what the OP is writing about, but I see it as the thin end of a very long wedge.

Personally I wouldn’t want a gambling sponsor but with a lot of fans saying we need to make the most out of every avenue available then this is one of them unfortunately.

I liked having more local sponsors on our shirt and as you say, the more we rely on these sort of things coming into the club the more it will slowly lose touch of what we fell in love with to keep up with the Jones’ (not David). As the saying goes though, you have to pay the piper if you want to dance.

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Post by Local cricketer » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:39 am

dpinsussex wrote:Serious question though. Does anyone actually buy from the sponsors on the football clubs shirts. I dont think I have ever bought from any of the sponsors
I needed a liver transplant after drinking vodka kick for a season
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Post by JohnMac » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:46 am

dpinsussex wrote:Serious question though. Does anyone actually buy from the sponsors on the football clubs shirts. I dont think I have ever bought from any of the sponsors
Not since we were sponsored by Hollands Pies :lol:

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Post by houseboy » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:47 am

Just a thought but is nobody in the least bit concerned that 50% of PL sponsors are gambling firms? Gambling can and does cause misery to hundreds of thousands of people and families so is it wise that we should be promoting it this way (I mean 'we' generically not specifically Burnley). Cigarette advertising was banned because of the damage it causes but gambling seems to go untouched. I don't have a problem with gambling per se, it's a free world and people can do as they like, but should we be actively promoting it in this way? I'm not so sure.

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:49 am

houseboy wrote:Just a thought but is nobody in the least bit concerned that 50% of PL sponsors are gambling firms? Gambling can and does cause misery to hundreds of thousands of people and families so is it wise that we should be promoting it this way (I mean 'we' generically not specifically Burnley). Cigarette advertising was banned because of the damage it causes but gambling seems to go untouched. I don't have a problem with gambling per se, it's a free world and people can do as they like, but should we be actively promoting it in this way? I'm not so sure.
Pointless to go against the tide and deprive ourselves of 7.5m unless they legislate against it. That is pretty much the status quo

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Post by williamjblazkowicz » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:55 am

I was surprised to see us fairly high up on the table. However, it does say:

These deals above are main shirt deals only and do not include sleeves sponsors (Burnley and Sheffield United aside)...

Even taking that into account, it looks like we've got a decent deal there.

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Post by claret2018 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:04 am

I think the reason there have recently been so many gambling firms sponsoring shirts etc is that the industry suspects it will be banned in the not to distant future, and are getting in while they still can.

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Post by wilks_bfc » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:39 am

Local cricketer wrote:I needed a liver transplant after drinking vodka kick for a season
But that would only be whilst at away games

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Post by Spijed » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:41 am

JohnMac wrote:Not since we were sponsored by Hollands Pies :lol:
They still sponsor the goal celebration on the big screen.
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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:50 am

claret2018 wrote:I think the reason there have recently been so many gambling firms sponsoring shirts etc is that the industry suspects it will be banned in the not to distant future, and are getting in while they still can.
It's more that they throw far more money at it than anyone else, usually the Far East companies.

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Post by mikeS » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:58 am

I won’t be buying shirts any more until the club move away from promoting gambling with sponsors like Lovebet.
The club must have had other sponsors-it could have chosen from.

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Post by aggi » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:05 am

ClaretTony wrote:It's more that they throw far more money at it than anyone else, usually the Far East companies.
Kind of.

They throw the money at the mid/lower tier teams in the division where I guess they think they get the most bang for their buck.

None of the biggest teams have gambling sponsors.

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Post by Spijed » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:11 am

mikeS wrote:The club must have had other sponsors-it could have chosen from.
But in all likelihood, none who could offer a serious amount of money. That's the issue for a smaller club like ours.
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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:26 am

aggi wrote:Kind of.

They throw the money at the mid/lower tier teams in the division where I guess they think they get the most bang for their buck.

None of the biggest teams have gambling sponsors.
The top clubs don't because they can get big deals without using them.

I'm not convinced of those numbers above but, even if no accurate, it shows just how much more the big clubs can attract without using the tacky far east gambling market.

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Post by tarkys_ears » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:48 am

williamjblazkowicz wrote:I was surprised to see us fairly high up on the table. However, it does say:

These deals above are main shirt deals only and do not include sleeves sponsors (Burnley and Sheffield United aside)...

Even taking that into account, it looks like we've got a decent deal there.
Not as good as they have, advertising to a billion people a week for a measly £7.5m.

They only love it when we play the big 6. They couldn't give a toss about our club.

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Post by houseboy » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:27 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:Pointless to go against the tide and deprive ourselves of 7.5m unless they legislate against it. That is pretty much the status quo
The world has only ever changed by people going against the tide. ;)

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:27 pm

I don’t understand how Aston Villa are sponsored by a Thai gambling company... all forms of betting are illegal here. They even class table football as betting :D

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:29 pm

I’ve just checked and it’s Philipino not Thai. So that’s how.

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Post by Spike » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:18 pm

houseboy wrote:Just a thought but is nobody in the least bit concerned that 50% of PL sponsors are gambling firms? Gambling can and does cause misery to hundreds of thousands of people and families so is it wise that we should be promoting it this way (I mean 'we' generically not specifically Burnley). Cigarette advertising was banned because of the damage it causes but gambling seems to go untouched. I don't have a problem with gambling per se, it's a free world and people can do as they like, but should we be actively promoting it in this way? I'm not so sure.
Not a problem until it is banned we are not doing anything illegal or in mind immoral

There are bookies everywhere and when we playedRangers there were moreBookies than shops

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:22 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:I don’t understand how Aston Villa are sponsored by a Thai gambling company... all forms of betting are illegal here. They even class table football as betting :D
Betting is also banned in China - the companies are based offshore and the gambling is online to get around the ban

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