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2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by AndyClaret » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:30 am

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:33 am

Wonder if they post on here.

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Imploding Turtle » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:34 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Wonder if they post on here.
Not any more.
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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:35 am

Im suspecting they may be white in this case.

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:35 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Not any more.
Hehe :lol:

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Imploding Turtle » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:37 am

ZizkovClaret wrote:Im suspecting they may be white in this case.
Doesn't matter, really. But that would be amusing.

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:40 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Doesn't matter, really. But that would be amusing.
cue "The pilfered explosives were only resting in my shed" memes

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Local cricketer » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:44 am

ZizkovClaret wrote:Im suspecting they may be white in this case.
Doubt it looking at the addresses given

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Imploding Turtle » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:45 am

ZizkovClaret wrote:cue "The pilfered explosives were only resting in my shed" memes
Did you see what the police found in Italy when they raided some far-right group's ammo horde? A ******* missile. :lol:
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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by taio » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:47 am

ZizkovClaret wrote:Im suspecting they may be white in this case.
At the heart of Stoneyholme and Daneshouse so chances are that's not the case.

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:48 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Did you see what the police found in Italy when they raided some far-right group's ammo horde? A ******* missile. :lol:
Theres an ol fella round here reckons he has a load of anti-tank mines in his basement, and you know what, i kinda believe the mad old *******!

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:52 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Did you see what the police found in Italy when they raided some far-right group's ammo horde? A ******* missile. :lol:
It wasn’t a surface to air missile either apparently which begs the question how were they planning on using it.

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Imploding Turtle » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:09 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:It wasn’t a surface to air missile either apparently which begs the question how were they planning on using it.
I imagine it's possible to modify an AAM for use from the ground. But more importantly it shows that at least one far-right has access to this kind of weaponry (and that there's at least one group willing and able to supply it), and it was apparently a surprise to the people who found it. So there's no reason to believe that other groups don't have access to this stuff. And if they have access to AAM then there's no reason to believe they don't have access to SAMs.

And at the risk of heading down a crazy rabbit hole, if these are provided by people who aren't really interested in the ideology behind the far right extremists, and are only interested in causing chaos in western countries, then there's no reason to think that they are not providing access to other terrorists.

It's a pretty big development.

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by aggi » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:11 am

It was pretty substantial
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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by aggi » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:14 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:I imagine it's possible to modify an AAM for use from the ground. But more importantly it shows that at least one far-right has access to this kind of weaponry (and that there's at least one group willing and able to supply it), and it was apparently a surprise to the people who found it. So there's no reason to believe that other groups don't have access to this stuff. And if they have access to AAM then there's no reason to believe they don't have access to SAMs.

And at the risk of heading down a crazy rabbit hole, if these are provided by people who aren't really interested in the ideology behind the far right extremists, and are only interested in causing chaos in western countries, then there's no reason to think that they are not providing access to other terrorists.

It's a pretty big development.
I'm less convinced that it would be easy to modify without significant technical expertise.

To be honest I think it was more likely they were arms dealers than far right terrorists planning to use the stuff. Although the fact they had it makes it more likely that it would end up with other far right groups who would be willing to use it.

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Imploding Turtle » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:16 am

aggi wrote:I'm less convinced that it would be easy to modify without significant technical expertise.

To be honest I think it was more likely they were arms dealers than far right terrorists planning to use the stuff. Although the fact they had it makes it more likely that it would end up with other far right groups who would be willing to use it.
You might be right. They had an F-104 too.

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by brexit » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:48 am

Looks like a reload missile for the american HAWK Anti missile system which was superseded by the patriot missile system. So it is at least 25 years old and needs a caravan sized launcher to fire.

Probably used for selfies and impressing fascist chicks.

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by theroyaldyche » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:49 am

Name em

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:51 am

theroyaldyche wrote:Name em
There is a process you know?

I know Saint Tommy of Robinshun doesn't believe in it, but it remains the case

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Imploding Turtle » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:54 am

theroyaldyche wrote:Name em
They will be named. What's the rush?
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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:57 am

Given age and address almost certain they were in my school class :shock: :shock:

Thankfuly didn't happen on my watch when I was milk monitor. Had them all in check!
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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:58 am

Local cricketer wrote:Doubt it looking at the addresses given
Tim Noone is Stoneyholmes finest. He hasn't posted on here for a few days.

That said I think he is younger than 34!

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:58 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Not any more.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Tim? Where are you Tim?
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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:58 am

Can you go back to discussing the missiles it was for more interesting and informative

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by theroyaldyche » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:10 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:They will be named. What's the rush?
No rush. Jus name em

So people know who they are mixing with

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Stockbrokerbelt » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:12 pm

Its 2 members of our board who were caught checking our dry powder store.
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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Dy1geo » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:19 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:There is a process you know?

I know Saint Tommy of Robinshun doesn't believe in it, but it remains the case

We had full news coverage when the Police searched Cliff Richard’s house

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:24 pm

Dy1geo wrote:We had full news coverage when the Police searched Cliff Richard’s house
Well, tbf they were wired for sound so it would have been silly not to
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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Stayingup » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:28 pm

Dy1geo wrote:We had full news coverage when the Police searched Cliff Richard’s house
Ah but that was one right up tge BBC's atreet. They paid the price but it wasnt high enough for invading an innocent persons privacy and causing him stress.

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Imploding Turtle » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:31 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:No rush. Jus name em

So people know who they are mixing with
Sounds like you've prejudiced them. Being arrested doesn't mean they're guilty of anything so how will naming them tell anyone who they're mixing with? And since they're under arrest then they're not mixing with them any more.

If the court decides that naming them prior to the conclusion of any possible trial will mean they will not receive a fair trial, would you rather they be named now anyway, or do you think it would be better to wait?

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Imploding Turtle » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:33 pm

Dy1geo wrote:We had full news coverage when the Police searched Cliff Richard’s house

And how did that turn out?

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Lord Rothbury » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:44 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Can you go back to discussing the missiles it was for more interesting and informative
Italian right wingers more interesting than possible Muslim jihadists in Stoneyholme. Strange.

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:50 pm

Lord Rothbury wrote:Italian right wingers more interesting than possible Muslim jihadists in Stoneyholme. Strange.
They had a missile though...

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:50 pm

Lord Rothbury wrote:Italian right wingers more interesting than possible Muslim jihadists in Stoneyholme. Strange.
I didn't realise an inanimate object such as a missile could be considered right wing but yes I was finding the discussion on the missile much more interesting than another thread full of bickering about race and how hard done by Cliff Richard was.

If that makes me strange then so be it but at least im not a pathetic racist like you
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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by bfcjg » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:54 pm

Dy1geo wrote:We had full news coverage when the Police searched Cliff Richard’s house
The suspects have been named as the Young Ones.

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Post by Lord Rothbury » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:55 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Did you see what the police found in Italy when they raided some far-right group's ammo horde? A ******* missile. :lol:

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Spike » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:06 pm

Police are still searchin* for the new second and third kits

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Imploding Turtle » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:09 pm

Lord Rothbury wrote:Italian right wingers more interesting than possible Muslim jihadists in Stoneyholme. Strange.

What is there to talk about? We don't know anything other than they've been arrested on suspicion of something. What do you propose we discuss? Go on, make a suggestion and we'll discuss it.

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Post by theroyaldyche » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:53 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Sounds like you've prejudiced them. Being arrested doesn't mean they're guilty of anything so how will naming them tell anyone who they're mixing with? And since they're under arrest then they're not mixing with them any more.

If the court decides that naming them prior to the conclusion of any possible trial will mean they will not receive a fair trial, would you rather they be named now anyway, or do you think it would be better to wait?
No. Name em

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Local cricketer » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:54 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:No. Name em

Imran something and Tim Noone by sounds of it

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Imploding Turtle » Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:51 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:No. Name em
There were no 'yes' or 'no' questions in my post.

Please answer my question.
If the court decides that naming them prior to the conclusion of any possible trial will mean they will not receive a fair trial, would you rather they be named now anyway, or do you think it would be better to wait?

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Bosscat » Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:08 pm

Dy1geo wrote:We had full news coverage when the Police searched Cliff Richard’s house
Ahhh but they didn't find any bomb making equipment :roll:

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:34 pm

I’m glad claretandy started the thread, he’d be at the top of the list of suspects from this board.

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by theroyaldyche » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:58 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:There were no 'yes' or 'no' questions in my post.

Please answer my question.
If the court decides that naming them prior to the conclusion of any possible trial will mean they will not receive a fair trial, would you rather they be named now anyway, or do you think it would be better to wait?
Name em now

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by basil6345789 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:02 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:Name em
Asif and Wasim.

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by Imploding Turtle » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:11 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:Name em now
Why?

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by theroyaldyche » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:11 pm

basil6345789 wrote:Asif and Wasim.
Wakim
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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by ClaretMoffitt » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:13 pm

Those pesky brexit voters at it again.

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by AndyClaret » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:28 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:I’m glad claretandy started the thread, he’d be at the top of the list of suspects from this board.
sorry to disappoint you.

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Re: 2 men arrested for terrorism in Burnley

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:43 pm

basil6345789 wrote:Asif and Wasim.
It was him? As if!

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