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Post by Right_winger » Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:54 pm

London is a town of mongrels

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:00 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:If you want to live in a rundown cesspit with practically nothing to do and lacking in any culture because you are scared that you might get stabbed in the city then fair enough.

If I was you Id be careful about going on a plane cos you know they fall out of the sky and crash

Its up to you where you want to live but you are absolutely clueless about London and are just talking out your arse
Why would I be scared of getting stabbed?

I've lived my life with virtually no crime at all happening.

Why would I worry about it now?

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:02 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:If you want to live in a rundown cesspit with practically nothing to do and lacking in any culture because you are scared that you might get stabbed in the city then fair enough.

If I was you Id be careful about going on a plane cos you know they fall out of the sky and crash

Its up to you where you want to live but you are absolutely clueless about London and are just talking out your arse
P.S you're supposed to wind other folk up.

Not start frothing yourself.
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Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:03 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:P.S you're supposed to wind other folk up.

Not start frothing yourself.
Oh dear you let yourself down with that last comment
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Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:11 am

Right_winger wrote:London is a town of mongrels
Hate to break it to you, but we’re all mongrels.

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:23 am

it is a squalid , litter strewn cesspit with no redeeming features. populated by pimps and ponces. Horrific place, and unfit to be our capitol.

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Post by tim_noone » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:30 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:it is a squalid , litter strewn cesspit with no redeeming features. populated by pimps and ponces. Horrific place, and unfit to be our capitol.
And people Mainly from the North are salt of the earth and amongst the friendliest in the country....

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:36 am

tim_noone wrote:And people Mainly from the North are salt of the earth and amongst the friendliest in the country....
criticism of london doesn't equate to love of all things northern, the north is brim full of liars, cheats, thieves, and ****, as well as thousands of honourable decent folk, but london isn't.

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Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:38 am

I see London is annoying all the right people.
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Post by tim_noone » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:42 am

Swizzlestick wrote:I see London is annoying all the right people.
Or possibly the wrong uns?

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:12 am

combinations of numbers and letters in a colourful block sign , doesn't detract from the fact, London is a huge toilet.

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Post by tim_noone » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:19 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:combinations of numbers and letters in a colourful block sign , doesn't detract from the fact, London is a huge toilet.
What do you base your views on Wile?

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:23 am

same as yours tim, bias and experience . I would assume.

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Post by claret2018 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:50 am

Probably my favourite city to visit, but I wouldn’t like to live there on account of how busy everything constantly is.

It’s a million times better than manchester
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Post by clerkenwell.claret » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:04 am

London is the greatest city on this planet.

Lord Kitchener had it right.

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Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:05 am

You have to admit having the mentality of someone like Quickenthetempo must make life so much easier ; " I don't know anything about it, I don't want to know anything about it, I've little or no experience about it so I don't like it.
Different places, countries, people - nah, not for me."

Sad, really.
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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:04 am

Never really got this London is well dear line.
Parts of Manchester are very similar prices to down there.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:25 am

evensteadiereddie wrote:You have to admit having the mentality of someone like Quickenthetempo must make life so much easier ; " I don't know anything about it, I don't want to know anything about it, I've little or no experience about it so I don't like it.
Different places, countries, people - nah, not for me."

Sad, really.
I offered the chance for posters to explain what is great about our capital city.
Apart from great museums that most cities have, I'm struggling to see anything else put forward.

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Post by Billy Balfour » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:32 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:It's supposed to have nice bits but none the working class can enjoy.
That's quite a snobby attitude you have there, if you don't mind me saying so. Basically, you're are saying that working class people don't enjoy world renowned museums, libraries, architecture and parks & gardens - all free too.
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Post by Billy Balfour » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:35 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:I offered the chance for posters to explain what is great about our capital city.
Apart from great museums that most cities have, I'm struggling to see anything else put forward.
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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:54 am

Billy Balfour wrote:That's quite a snobby attitude you have there, if you don't mind me saying so. Basically, you're are saying that working class people don't enjoy world renowned museums, libraries, architecture and parks & gardens - all free too.
That's one way of looking at it I suppose.

Or you could simply think I meant London was very expensive.

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Post by tim_noone » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:09 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:I offered the chance for posters to explain what is great about our capital city.
Apart from great museums that most cities have, I'm struggling to see anything else put forward.
The Transport System "despite leaves on the Line" is fantastic and has been for years....Regent st I never tire of those Shop Fronts or Lots of fantastic Buildings across London...The Thames and all that has to offer sailing down to Greenwich....portobello road... All soho has to offer in entertainment and good food... Piccadilly Circus leading you down to china town the theatres Mayfair and the royal palaces.....I could go on and on.
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Post by tim_noone » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:13 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:That's one way of looking at it I suppose.

Or you could simply think I meant London was very expensive.
The White Horse is out of my price range in Bingley....so I eat next Door. But Bingley still a great place all the Same.... :D

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:21 am

Its not just all the City of London stuff.

I'll be working in London this week and will be out for a few beers in Clapham on Wednesday. The place will be buzzing and will be a hive of activity with a whole mix of people with all sorts of backgrounds.

In our group alone as well as locals they'll be northerners, Welsh, Scottish, Indian, Eastern European, Portuguese, French etc which makes for brilliant conversation as you get such a diverse perspective on life and experiences.

They'll be a whole range of bars and food places to choose from and will be a great atmosphere

Now compare that to going down Padiham or Burnley on a Wednesday night for a drink or a meal and it just isnt comparable. I appreciate some people may just prefer their life in a place like Burnley and Padiham and it might offer all they need but to label London as a sh*thole is juts ignorant
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Post by tim_noone » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:27 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:Its not just all the City of London stuff.

I'll be working in London this week and will be out for a few beers in Clapham on Wednesday. The place will be buzzing and will be a hive of activity with a whole mix of people with all sorts of backgrounds.

In our group alone as well as locals they'll be northerners, Welsh, Scottish, Indian, Eastern European, Portuguese, French etc which makes for brilliant conversation as you get such a diverse perspective on life and experiences.

They'll be a whole range of bars and food places to choose from and will be a great atmosphere

Now compare that to going down Padiham or Burnley on a Wednesday night for a drink or a meal and it just isnt comparable. I appreciate some people may just prefer their life in a place like Burnley and Padiham and it might offer all they need but to label London as a sh*thole is juts ignorant
Great stuff...and the sunshine as well!! :D
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Post by Bosscat » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:46 pm

Apart from great transport what has London got to offer.

Nightlife.

OK apart from Nightlife and great transport... what has London got to offer.

Shops

OK apart from Shops, Nightlife and great transport... what has London got to offer.

Museums.

OK apart from.............

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Post by groove » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:49 pm

London is drowning and I live by the river

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Post by Stalbansclaret » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:27 pm

I divide my time between St Albans (20 mins on train into London) and Barrowford and both are great in their own way. Excellent posts from Tim Noone and Devil’s Advocate above as London is undoubtedly a fantastic, vibrant and endlessly interesting City. Posts labelling it a “toilet” and suchlike are just laughable.
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Post by Siddo » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:41 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Never really got this London is well dear line.
Parts of Manchester are very similar prices to down there.
We visit London at least twice a year and the cheapest pint in London costs more than the most expensive in Manchester.
Both are fantastic cities.

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Post by Stalbansclaret » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:50 pm

I was out in Didsbury last week and the price of a pint was pretty much the same as in most London pubs.
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Post by claret2018 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:01 pm

Yeah, you can very easily pay £6-7 for a pint in Manchester. There really isn’t much difference in the average price of a pint between Manchester and London, in my personal experience.

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Post by nil_desperandum » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:02 pm

Siddo wrote:We visit London at least twice a year and the cheapest pint in London costs more than the most expensive in Manchester.
Both are fantastic cities.
Define London.
I've been in 'spoons in various parts of London, and in some prices are not hugely different to around here.
If you're talking about tourist areas, Westminster, "the City" and the West End then you've a point, but then you won't get a cheap drink in the touristy areas of Europe's other major capitals either.
(You've got to bear in mind that rents, business rates and local taxes etc. are much higher in Mayfair and Piccadilly than in Bacup and Padiham.

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Post by Steve1956 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:05 pm

Siddo wrote:We visit London at least twice a year and the cheapest pint in London costs more than the most expensive in Manchester.
Both are fantastic cities.
I got laughed at for suggesting Edinburgh was a fantastic city,be careful what you say on here,they giggle behind your back ! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by COBBLE » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:52 pm

It's a real surprise to me how many of the posters on this thread haven't a clue about London, the most amazing city in the world, if their yardstick is the price of a pint of beer. That must cover all the cultural, historical, educational, architectural, sporting bases. And I love Manchester.

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Post by Right_winger » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:05 pm

London is over populated and overcrowded is the main reason I dislike it.

The people of London are also quite ignorant and live in the bubble, not to mention they are mostly champagne socialist types.

Not a fan of Manchester either although it’s much better than London.

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Post by tim_noone » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:09 pm

Siddo wrote:We visit London at least twice a year and the cheapest pint in London costs more than the most expensive in Manchester.
Both are fantastic cities.
Get yerself in the craven Heifer or stone trough Kelbrook ......Mayfair Priced Drinks in a Big click Little Bar.devoid of any atmosphere or wow factor.

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Post by Bosscat » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:15 pm

Steve1956 wrote:I got laughed at for suggesting Edinburgh was a fantastic city,be careful what you say on here,they giggle behind your back ! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Edinburghs Ace Steve loved our trip to the Uni lsst year to watch our Granddaughter play Lacrosse in the ho.e Internationals (Stayed at the Premier Inn at Musselburgh)
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Post by beddie » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:24 pm

The thing I like about London is when Im leaving it.
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Post by Steve1956 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:24 pm

Bosscat wrote:Edinburghs Ace Steve loved our trip to the Uni lsst year to watch our Granddaughter play Lacrosse in the ho.e Internationals (Stayed at the Premier Inn at Musselburgh)
My son lives in Edinburgh he is studying engineering at Heriot Watt uni,I make frequent visits down there,it beats London all ends up,I'm going to the summer sessions on Princes street next month to watch Florence & the Machine,gimme Edinburgh over London any day ...along with York, Manchester, Leeds,and many more before the shith0le that is London. :D
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Post by nil_desperandum » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:32 pm

Right_winger wrote: The people of London are also quite ignorant and live in the bubble, not to mention they are mostly champagne socialist types.
What a lot of utter nonsense. Vast majority of Londoners will rarely if ever taste champagne. The vast majority are just about paying the rent.
The capital has problems with child poverty, young adult unemployment, low pay and high housing costs, according to London's Poverty Profile. The study shows 28% of people in London are in poverty, seven percentage points higher than the rest of England. (taken from a report produced by think tank the New Policy Institute.)
That's the downside to London that no one has so far mentioned on here, but as a capital city it's absolutely fantastic, and in terms of its extremes of wealth and poverty not dissimilar to many great world capitals.
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Post by Right_winger » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:42 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:What a lot of utter nonsense. Vast majority of Londoners will rarely if ever taste champagne. The vast majority are just about paying the rent.
The capital has problems with child poverty, young adult unemployment, low pay and high housing costs, according to London's Poverty Profile. The study shows 28% of people in London are in poverty, seven percentage points higher than the rest of England. (taken from a report produced by think tank the New Policy Institute.)
That's the downside to London that no one has so far mentioned on here, but as a capital city it's absolutely fantastic, and in terms of its extremes of wealth and poverty not dissimilar to many great world capitals.
Clearly miss interpreting the phrase champagne socialist then.

I agree that there are parts of London which are absolute pits. There are nice parts aswell but as a whole it’s too busy, overcrowded and cramped. There’s not much quality greenspace and the people in general have little patience and not the most welcoming. To be fair the whole south east can be labelled similar.

Compare London to the likes of Edinburgh and it’s not even close which is the better city, and Edinburgh isn’t even the best city in Scotland either.

If you like “white noise” and people falling over each other then London is for you.

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Post by nil_desperandum » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:55 pm

Right_winger wrote:Clearly miss interpreting the phrase champagne socialist then.
Not misinterpreting the phrase at all, and my reply directly addressed your accusation.
Champagne Socialist: a person who espouses socialist ideals while enjoying a wealthy and luxurious lifestyle.
Proportionately I doubt there are any more of these in London than anywhere else in Europe.
28% live in poverty according to my link and a very large proportion of the rest just about get by because housing is so expensive. The vast majority of Londoners have very little disposable income after paying the essential bills.
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Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:58 pm

Right Winger is Partridge.

“Go to London. I guarantee you'll either be mugged or not appreciated. Catch the train to London, stopping at Rejection, Disappointment, Backstabbing Central and Shattered Dreams Parkway.”
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Post by tim_noone » Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:07 am

Right_winger wrote:Clearly miss interpreting the phrase champagne socialist then.

I agree that there are parts of London which are absolute pits. There are nice parts aswell but as a whole it’s too busy, overcrowded and cramped. There’s not much quality greenspace and the people in general have little patience and not the most welcoming. To be fair the whole south east can be labelled similar.

Compare London to the likes of Edinburgh and it’s not even close which is the better city, and Edinburgh isn’t even the best city in Scotland either.

If you like “white noise” and people falling over each other then London is for you.
Went to Edinburgh "once" in a Bar on the Corner of Princess st. Some F..ker might as well have shat themselves. The only memory of Edinburgh I have along with a traffic cone on a statues Head.

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:12 am

nice to read that the positive , pro london comments invariably come from comfortably off northeren elements who can sample the quality end of big city life. all big city dwellers have an ability to espouse the finery and choice, provided they have fat wallets. the rest of you can go to hell, as its too rich for your thickheaded palates.

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Post by aggi » Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:22 am

Siddo wrote:We visit London at least twice a year and the cheapest pint in London costs more than the most expensive in Manchester.
Both are fantastic cities.
It sounds like you may be missing a lot of places in both cities.
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Post by clerkenwell.claret » Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:41 am

An earlier post, #75, mentioned the diversity in the context of gathering for drinks.

That diversity is a real joy. Every nation on Earth is represented in London, their art & culture, food, science, language, places of worship.

And let’s not forget that the waves of immigrants have contributed the the success of the city they made their home AND to the success of our beloved country.

But just because I consider that London is the greatest city on earth doesn’t mean that I dislike other cities.

New York, Cairo, Tokyo, Kyoto, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Yangon, Istanbul, Rome, Paris, Athens, Seoul, San Francisco, Budapest, Berlin, Mumbai, Delhi, Kolkata etc etc are all great world cities in their own ways and enjoyable to live and visit. Manchester, Edinburgh, Leeds (even).

But London is the place for me.
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Re: if you come to London, you're in, says...

Post by Pstotto » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:04 am

Bosscat obviously spends his time in Southall when he's down in London...

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