Dwight McNeil

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:54 am

Newcastle are interested in £30m-ratedBurnley winger Dwight McNeil, but new boss Steve Bruce is only prepared to offer £15m for the 19-year-old. (Sun on Sunday)

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:55 am

Burnley-esque

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:04 am

Well, that'll buy one of his feet....

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:14 am

ElectroClaret wrote:Well, that'll buy one of his feet....

Hopefully his right one.

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:26 am

Hope that they were watching him yesterday at Crewe - hardly beat a man, hardly had a run down the wing and ended the game playing somewhere right side of midfield! Very poor.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:47 am

Listening to Sabbath t’other day and this came to me.
To “the wizard”, quite apt I thought. From 21 seconds in.
Dwight—Mac—Neil dur dur du dur dur du du dur
The original
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MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:08 am

Just goes to show, but for injuries and him grasping his chance, he could have been playing for Cheltenham.

People forget we tried

Hendrick, Taylor and Barnes out wide before McNeil.
He literally was the last resort, yet some will have you believe it was a masterstroke.

I seem to be in the minority that think he's just ok. I certainly cannot believe some people think he's worth 40 and 50m.

Archer · Post by **Archer** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:15 am

MACCA wrote:Just goes to show, but for injuries and him grasping his chance, he could have been playing for Cheltenham.

People forget we tried

Hendrick, Taylor and Barnes out wide before McNeil.
He literally was the last resort, yet some will have you believe it was a masterstroke.

I seem to be in the minority that think he's just ok. I certainly cannot believe some people think he's worth 40 and 50m.

Could you do me a favour and copy/paste this onto a few more threads for good measure?

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:18 am

MACCA wrote:Just goes to show, but for injuries and him grasping his chance, he could have been playing for Cheltenham.

People forget we tried

Hendrick, Taylor and Barnes out wide before McNeil.
He literally was the last resort, yet some will have you believe it was a masterstroke.

I seem to be in the minority that think he's just ok. I certainly cannot believe some people think he's worth 40 and 50m.

Going rate for young attacking players, Macca. He had a good tournament in France and scouts eyes are on them matches, looking for the next big thing.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:22 am

MACCA wrote:Just goes to show, but for injuries and him grasping his chance, he could have been playing for Cheltenham.

People forget we tried

Hendrick, Taylor and Barnes out wide before McNeil.
He literally was the last resort, yet some will have you believe it was a masterstroke.

I seem to be in the minority that think he's just ok. I certainly cannot believe some people think he's worth 40 and 50m.

I reckon Nathaniel Clyne might disagree as he’s still wondering where Dwight went on the South coast.

Interesting that Clyne looks like he’s going to Palace. I think Dwight will be looking forward to that game.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:24 am

MACCA wrote:Just goes to show, but for injuries and him grasping his chance, he could have been playing for Cheltenham.

People forget we tried

Hendrick, Taylor and Barnes out wide before McNeil.
He literally was the last resort, yet some will have you believe it was a masterstroke.

I seem to be in the minority that think he's just ok. I certainly cannot believe some people think he's worth 40 and 50m.

He's certainly worth £30m+ and will probably be worth £40m+ after this coming season.

Aston Villa wanted £30m - £40m for Jack Grealish, who managed a paltry 6 goals in the Championship last season.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:29 am

Archer wrote:Could you do me a favour and copy/paste this onto a few more threads for good measure?

Could do, but doubt I'd get more than 4 bites.

Ps the eagle eyed amongst us would see it wasn't the same post

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:38 am

Hi MACCA,

Like us all you're fully entitled to your opinion. I agree with you that the "reported" (I don't believe these stories TBH) fees are ridiculous.

"I seem to be in the minority that think he's just ok. "

However, with all due respect, I wish all our players were "just ok" if that's what Dwight is.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:41 am

The club says we don't need to sell. Lets see if they mean it. Keeping him and Tarks would be fantastic and the price of both will only continue to go up. Be sad to see Tom go, if he does, but that is an easier role to fill-particularly if he wont sign a new contract

AndyClaret · Post by **AndyClaret** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:55 am

MACCA wrote:Just goes to show, but for injuries and him grasping his chance, he could have been playing for Cheltenham.

People forget we tried

Hendrick, Taylor and Barnes out wide before McNeil.
He literally was the last resort, yet some will have you believe it was a masterstroke.

I seem to be in the minority that think he's just ok. I certainly cannot believe some people think he's worth 40 and 50m.

Barnes hasn't played on the left for a few years.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:59 am

6...

AndyClaret wrote:Barnes hasn't played on the left for a few years.

You're wrong.

AndyClaret · Post by **AndyClaret** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:07 pm

MACCA wrote:6...

You're wrong.

Name a game where Barnes has played on the left when McNeil was available, i'l wait...

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:13 pm

I'll not keep you waiting too long.

Don't bother with any excuses, as I watched him play wide left.
You're wrong, and its ok to be wrong/forgetful

I'll not wait...

AndyClaret · Post by **AndyClaret** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:16 pm

MACCA wrote:Don't bother with any excuses, as I watched him play wide left.
You're wrong, and its ok to be wrong/forgetful

Is that the best you can do, an FA Cup game from 2 years ago when McNeil hadn't even made his debut, good grief.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:19 pm

AndyClaret wrote:Is that the best you can do, an FA Cup game from 2 years ago when McNeil hadn't even made his debut, good grief.

So you're not saying he's not played wide left for s few years anymore?

I never knew there were stipulations as to when, where or who against.
I just told you he had, you said he hasn't for s few years.

Ps 2018 wasnt 2 years ago ( the clue is we're only in 2019 now ) but suppose you need something to grasp on to.

AndyClaret · Post by **AndyClaret** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:26 pm

MACCA wrote:So you're not saying he's not played wide left for s few years anymore?

I never knew there were stipulations as to when, where or who against.
I just told you he had, you said he hasn't for s few years.

Ps 2018 wasnt 2 years ago ( the clue is we're only in 2019 now ) but suppose you need something to grasp on to.

you said Barnes has played on the left instead on McNeil, i pointed out that this isn't true, neither has Taylor for that matter bar the Europa league.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:28 pm

he isn't going anywhere. What is this thread about?

HieronymousBoschHobs · Post by **HieronymousBoschHobs** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:29 pm

Doesn't make sense: why would Newcastle think they could poach the best youth prospect of a league rival with a lowball offer? It's not as though he's unlikely to get games. Odd movement from the Magpies, if true.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:32 pm

AndyClaret wrote:you said Barnes has played on the left instead on McNeil, i pointed out that this isn't true, neither has Taylor for that matter bar the Europa league.

I said Barnes was tried before McNeil, that is true.
I said Taylor was tried before McNeil, that is true.
I said Hendrick was tried before McNeil, that is true.

Regardless of competition, when or how often, the fact remains what I said was correct.

You either didn't know, or forgot, and that's fine, but you can't say it didn't happen.

You can put all these stipulations in about it was x competition, it was x time, it was only x amount of times, however the fact remains it happened, just accept it.

AndyClaret · Post by **AndyClaret** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:41 pm

MACCA wrote:I said Barnes was tried before McNeil, that is true.
I said Taylor was tried before McNeil, that is true.
I said Hendrick was tried before McNeil, that is true.

Regardless of competition, when or how often, the fact remains what I said was correct.

You either didn't know, or forgot, and that's fine, but you can't say it didn't happen.

You can put all these stipulations in about it was x competition, it was x time, it was only x amount of times, however the fact remains it happened, just accept it.

Ah so in the same vein Rodriguez will be the last resort because we've tried Defour and Hendrick as a number 10 before him, gotcha

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:46 pm

How about the pidgeon woman off home alone ***** off
Same with the sports direct ****

Fuckin geordie bastards

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:48 pm

MACCA wrote:I said Barnes was tried before McNeil, that is true.
I said Taylor was tried before McNeil, that is true.
I said Hendrick was tried before McNeil, that is true.

Regardless of competition, when or how often, the fact remains what I said was correct.

You either didn't know, or forgot, and that's fine, but you can't say it didn't happen.

You can put all these stipulations in about it was x competition, it was x time, it was only x amount of times, however the fact remains it happened, just accept it.

Even David Eyres was tried in left midfield before McNeill.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:52 pm

AndyClaret wrote:Ah so in the same vein Rodriguez will be the last resort because we've tried Defour and Hendrick as a number 10 before him, gotcha

Andy, put the spade down.
Let it go pal.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:53 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:How about the pidgeon woman off home alone ***** off
Same with the sports direct ****

Fuckin geordie bastards

I'm crying...

Wtf

Did she not give you her turtle dove or something?

Ps she was irish!

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:57 pm

Here you go cutsy...

The geordie *****

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:58 pm

MACCA wrote:Ps she was irish!

Brilliant.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:00 pm

I can’t believe that Dwight McNeil wasn’t even good enough to shift Bradley Maylett from left wing..... forget the fact that he wasn’t even born, but it’s true.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:04 pm

Kevin!

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:24 pm

Andy come back, and bring a bigger spade

AndyClaret · Post by **AndyClaret** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:26 pm

dandeclaret wrote:I can’t believe that Dwight McNeil wasn’t even good enough to shift Bradley Maylett from left wing..... forget the fact that he wasn’t even born, but it’s true.

This, MACCA lad, i can explain it to you, but i can't understand it for you my friend.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:30 pm

I’m glad we tried everyone else before Dwight it was nice to see Taffy at Wembley.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:35 pm

My instant reaction to seeing this on teletext...Newcastle want Burnley’s DM at Newcastle for £15m.... was I bet they do!

Must have been a really slow news day for the sports department, for the rumours to be so wild.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:14 pm

AndyClaret wrote:This, MACCA lad, i can explain it to you, but i can't understand it for you my friend.

So where we up to now?

Just a simple yes or no should suffice, on the things I've said...

Has Barnes played out wide?
Has Taylor played out wide?
Has Hendrick played out wide?
Was McNeil possibly last scenario?
Is 18 months a few years?
If it happened in the Europa league or FA cup it doesn't count?

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:20 pm

MACCA wrote:I'm crying...

Wtf

Did she not give you her turtle dove or something?

Ps she was irish!

Steve Bruce aka pidgeon woman home alone

AndyClaret · Post by **AndyClaret** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:29 pm

MACCA wrote:So where we up to now?

Just a simple yes or no should suffice, on the things I've said...

Has Barnes played out wide?
Has Taylor played out wide?
Has Hendrick played out wide?
Was McNeil possibly last scenario?
Is 18 months a few years?
If it happened in the Europa league or FA cup it doesn't count?

We're at the point where you admit that you were wrong that Barnes has started a game on the left since McNeil joined the first team.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:31 pm

MACCA wrote:So where we up to now?

Just a simple yes or no should suffice, on the things I've said...

Has Barnes played out wide?
Has Taylor played out wide?
Has Hendrick played out wide?
Was McNeil possibly last scenario?
Is 18 months a few years?
If it happened in the Europa league or FA cup it doesn't count?

The things you've said are true. Barnes, Taylor and Hendrick have played on the wing, Hendrick played on the opposite wing to McNeil during the last season also. I only remember Taylor playing on the wing in Athens.

It doesn't really have anything to do with Dwight McNeil really.

The few games that Barnes played in that position came 6 months before Dwight made his first team debut. Throwing a lad into first team action in top flight football or against a opponent like City mid-season isn't going to work out for anyone. He was brought into the fray last season and given a first team preseason, it was done in the best way for both parties. It's also worth noting that Jon Walters was on the bench at City that day, he has played on the wing for the bulk of his career. As for the Europa League, I attended the game in Athens and that was no place to hand an 18-year-old lad his first taste of action. The antics from both the crowd and opposition would of been too much for him.

Juan Tanamera · Post by **Juan Tanamera** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:41 pm

Seems like another thread has descended into farce because someone can't keep their ego in check.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:59 pm

AndyClaret wrote:We're at the point where you admit that you were wrong that Barnes has started a game on the left since McNeil joined the first team.

So the goal posts are now, has started a game, not in Europa league, not in the cup, after McNeil made his debut, only on the same side.

May aswell change it to only counts if we played in black and white stripes.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:00 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote:Seems like another thread has descended into farce because someone can't keep their ego in check.

Think he just cant admit that what I said was factual, so keeps moving the goal posts and going away from the initial point.

Hey ho such is life.

Think we are at a dozen now...

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:01 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:The things you've said are true. Barnes, Taylor and Hendrick have played on the wing, Hendrick played on the opposite wing to McNeil during the last season also. I only remember Taylor playing on the wing in Athens.

It doesn't really have anything to do with Dwight McNeil really.

The few games that Barnes played in that position came 6 months before Dwight made his first team debut. Throwing a lad into first team action in top flight football or against a opponent like City mid-season isn't going to work out for anyone. He was brought into the fray last season and given a first team preseason, it was done in the best way for both parties. It's also worth noting that Jon Walters was on the bench at City that day, he has played on the wing for the bulk of his career. As for the Europa League, I attended the game in Athens and that was no place to hand an 18-year-old lad his first taste of action. The antics from both the crowd and opposition would of been too much for him.

Fully concur

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:14 pm

by Juan Tanamera » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:41 pm

Seems like another thread has descended into farce because someone can't keep their ego in check.

100% agree, it's getting more and more difficult to read the sensible posts on this board between all the petty squabbles.
As if it's not enough having all the left v right stuff on anything vaguely political (or managed to be turned political); we have a thread here about possible interest in one of our players that's turned into a squabble about whether or not Barnes ever played left wing.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:20 pm

But he has played left wing so no need to squabble, theres nothing to squabble about it's either true or not.

Although a squabble usually happens when one person cant admit they got it wrong. I even said ge could have forgotten, but still he couldn't accept it.

Stproc · Post by **Stproc** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:56 pm

It time for some people on here to set up their own WhatsApp group then they can argue all day long if they like. Every thread ends up like this

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:35 pm

AndyClaret, to be fair you said Barnes hadn't played on the left for a few years. This wasn't anything to do with McNeil.

Macca is correct - he has played left in the last few years.

Bertiebeehead · Post by **Bertiebeehead** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:03 pm

Stproc wrote:It time for some people on here to set up their own WhatsApp group then they can argue all day long if they like. Every thread ends up like this

No it isn’t.