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Our club could learn this lesson.

Post by burnley007 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:33 pm

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Post by Chester Perry » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:38 pm

You do know how much revenue they generate don't you - commercially it is over 20 times what we do
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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:39 pm

Why not just let everybody in for free and be done with this charging lark.
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Post by Spijed » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:41 pm

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And when we get relegated where is our revenue going to come from? And it's a bit rich coming from Germany's biggest club when they know smaller clubs in the same division don't have the same commercial clout!

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Post by Royboyclaret » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:46 pm

Can understand the sentiment, but why single out our Club to learn a lesson ?

Is there another club in the PL that charges less admission prices than us ?

I know the combined cost of my Granddaughters season ticket and mine last season was something like £357........Nothing much wrong with that.
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Post by Tricky Trevor » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:47 pm

I can’t believe Bayern are getting a kicking on here for charging £104 for a season ticket.
He’s explained that they can do it because of their commercial income. If I were a Bayern fan I’d just say thank you.
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Post by Spijed » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:52 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:I can’t believe Bayern are getting a kicking on here for charging £104 for a season ticket.
He’s explained that they can do it because of their commercial income. If I were a Bayern fan I’d just say thank you.
But I think there was a feeling he was also aiming that comment at other clubs in the Bundesliga, making it sound like Bayern Munich were leading a campaign for cheaper prices, where in reality he knows other don't have the same revenue streams as they do.

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Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:51 pm

Tax evader Uli Hoeness taking the moral high ground there.
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Post by levraiclaret » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:57 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Why not just let everybody in for free and be done with this charging lark.
The ground would no longer be big enough.

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:58 pm

Our club could learn this lesson who have had frozen season ticket prices for the last few years?

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Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:04 pm

They only get 75,000 on at home as well.

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Post by No Ney Never » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:13 pm

Royboyclaret wrote: I know the combined cost of my Granddaughters season ticket and mine last season was something like £357........Nothing much wrong with that.
Just shy of £19 for the two of you to watch a game, a comparible bargain.
When you think what some people are paying to go to a gig, the theatre, or even just the cinema these days.

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Post by bobinho » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:20 pm

What lesson? I can’t see a lesson in there am I missing something?

The difference to them is nothing. To us, it most certainly IS something.

Trouble is, people see the massive sums involved in the English game, and assume it’s clear profit... £2m to us is still a considerable sum.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:25 pm

For me, my dad, my brother and two nephews it costs us less than £100 a month for all 5 of us.

There is a lot about German football that is better than English. There are a lot of things our club could learn. But this isn't one of them. I cant remember the last time ticket prices went up, which in essence means our prices are actually going down every year.

Our season tickets are probably the best value thing we buy and easily the best entertainment we buy. It would cost us around £100 for a day at the cinema for us all!
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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:30 pm

That quote is from about 2013.

Are their prices still low?

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Post by tim_noone » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:55 pm

I think he's aiming his comments at the Arsenals spurs and Liverpool clubs really.Burnleys ticket prices seem cheaper now than in the Nineties.German football is cheap to watch though compared to our "Big Guns"

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Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:04 pm

I wonder what the waiting list is and how many people can never get to see Bayern play because it is too cheap?

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Post by SGr » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:08 pm

I’ve read that a lot of Bayern tickets are expensive anyway. That quote is 4-5 years old ffs. Also it has zero reflection on Burnley as they are a much bigger club and hence matchday revenue accounts for a much smaller proportion of their income.

Think that covers everything...

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Post by Clarets4me » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:39 pm

SGr wrote:I’ve read that a lot of Bayern tickets are expensive anyway. That quote is 4-5 years old ffs. Also it has zero reflection on Burnley as they are a much bigger club and hence matchday revenue accounts for a much smaller proportion of their income.

Think that covers everything...
2019-20 prices are 15 - 70 Euro's for Bundesleiga games and 30 - 100 Euro's for Champions League games .... with the usual concessions.
Not sure about season tickets .....

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Post by Clarets4me » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:43 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:Tax evader Uli Hoeness taking the moral high ground there.
Served 21 months from June 2014 to February 2016, after admitting tax evasion of 28.5 million Euro's, the subsequent fines apparently made a big hole in his " Trockenpulver lagern " , ( Dry powder store ! ) ;)
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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:09 am

I was in Düsseldorf recently and looked at getting tickets for the Bundesliga game that they were playing on that weekend. Tickets were over €50 a couple of months before the fixture and eventually sold out. Not exactly as cheap as some seem to portray it.

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:34 am

Our football at Burnley is a fair price
We have 2 senior jhu season tickets at £500 total.
Arsenal Man U City Chelsea and Spuds all charge lots more

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Post by Hipper » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:00 am

It's a good job Bob Lord is not our current Chairman. He'd dispense with fans altogether.

Anyway, look after the millions and the billions will look after themselves.

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Post by Inchy » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:08 am

I pay £27 a month for my season ticket. That’s less than my phone, my life insurance and my old golf club fees.

Watching Burnley is very affordable. What more do fans want?

Burnley could easily survive without any money from tickets but where will it end? Free shirts? Free programmes? Free pies?

It’s a business, and although an unusual business as they could easily charge more, the club have to charge something.

Nobody should knock the club for ticket prices

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Post by houseboy » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:26 pm

Spijed wrote:But I think there was a feeling he was also aiming that comment at other clubs in the Bundesliga, making it sound like Bayern Munich were leading a campaign for cheaper prices, where in reality he knows other don't have the same revenue streams as they do.
I think you'll find that ALL clubs in Germany charge a fraction of what we pay here - that's why most grounds are full every week - and they are mostly not small grounds. Clubs in this country want to keep up the 'multi-millionaire' PL league status so fleece fans accordingly. Okay it's not too bad at Burnley so we shouldn't moan but in general the price of tickets in the PL is shocking.

Cue all the 'yeah but it's the biggest league in the world' sheep.

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Post by Spijed » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:50 pm

houseboy wrote:I think you'll find that ALL clubs in Germany charge a fraction of what we pay here - that's why most grounds are full every week - and they are mostly not small grounds.

Really. A fraction you say?

I suggest you look at their price list!
https://fcbayern.com/binaries/content/a ... 5699406598" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Goody1975 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:08 pm

£13.50 to stand up behind the goals seems a good deal.

That's will probably be cheaper per game as a season ticket.

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Post by Goody1975 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:13 pm

Stuff like this shouldn't be aimed at clubs like ours but the likes of Arsenal who charge a fortune. They like the rest of the big hitters pay well over the odds (salary wise) to most of their squad when they could charge a reasonable admission price.

You could gives clubs in the Premier League £1 Billion a season and it would still all filter its way to the players and agents.

People keep paying it though so why should they change?

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Post by Spijed » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:22 pm

Goody1975 wrote:£13.50 to stand up behind the goals seems a good deal.

That's will probably be cheaper per game as a season ticket.
That's only a small proportion of the ground though. Based on the rest of the prices the next cheapest seats are £31.50, going right up to £63 for the dearest.

Hardly cheaper than the Premier league.

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Post by JTClaret » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:38 pm

It'd be great if they could charge £104
And it isn't a case of they can't, it's a case of they couldn't if we went down.
Imagine being told ST prices would be 4/5 times more expensive if we were relegated to a lower division.

The only way this could happen now is if football imploded. Less clubs, less players, less money. It's never going to happen, nor does anybody want it too. But there may well be more clubs that start going bust which could change a few things.

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Post by houseboy » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:47 pm

Spijed wrote:Really. A fraction you say?

I suggest you look at their price list!
https://fcbayern.com/binaries/content/a ... 5699406598" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Just have. About half the cost on average of the PL - half is a fraction. If you want to go metric it's 50%.
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Post by occ-claret » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:40 pm

What do Amazon make each year in profit. Do you expect then to charge next to nothing for their products

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Post by Spijed » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:47 pm

houseboy wrote:Just have. About half the cost on average of the PL - half is a fraction. If you want to go metric it's 50%.
If you think £63 is cheap then fair enough!

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Post by houseboy » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:19 am

Spijed wrote:If you think £63 is cheap then fair enough!
Like here it depends who you are watching and (unlike here) if you want to stand (which I would always choose to do). Cheapest tickets (adult - non concession) are 15 Euros, which is not even £15. The article also states that prices have FALLEN for 5 years running. Imagine that happening in our much vaunted PL. There was a time apparently when it was actually cheaper to travel to Germany to watch a match than it was to get a ticket here. The PL is an over-priced, over-hyped money making machine.

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Post by burnley007 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:30 pm

Thought this might cause a bit of a stir.
I do believe that Premier League football is over-priced, but people are paying it, so why would they reduce it?
I'm a big fan of clubs offering cheap/free away travel though.

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