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Boris

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:00 pm

Just a couple of days left till the country goes into meltdown,

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Re: Boris

Postby kentonclaret » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:03 pm

One of the main sponsors of Boris are the Brexit digger company JCB

JACKASS
CLOWN
BUFFOON

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Re: Boris

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:08 pm

It's going to be fun watching him bumble along,wont be long before he takes Teresa's crown as worst PM in history. :D
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Re: Boris

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Re: Boris

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Re: Boris

Postby Tricky Trevor » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:17 pm

Steve1956 wrote:It's going to be fun watching him bumble along,wont be long before he takes Teresa's crown as worst PM in history. :D

There have been many far worse PMs than May. She was dealt a dreadful hand, by Hameron, and her premiership was totally dominated by Brexit. We’ll never know how good or bad she might have been.
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Re: Boris

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:18 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:There have been many far worse PMs than May. She was dealt a dreadful hand, by Hameron, and her premiership was totally dominated by Brexit. We’ll never know how good or bad she might have been.

Name them ! :)

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Re: Boris

Postby Tricky Trevor » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:21 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Name them ! :)

In my lifetime.
Callaghan
Thatcher
Major

Isn’t it a coincidence that, as with May and whoever wins Tuesday, two of them had the crown given to them and didn’t win it.
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Re: Boris

Postby bobinho » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:22 pm

Meanwhile, a challenge is coming from across the despatch box.... :roll: :lol:

Now THATS reassuring.

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Re: Boris

Postby nil_desperandum » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:24 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Name them ! :)

Can only think of one, and that's the guy who preceded her and left us all in this mess. (Cameron)
Her astounding levels of incompetency and dishonesty, (with herself and those around her), put her a v close second though.

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Re: Boris

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:27 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:In my lifetime.
Callaghan
Thatcher
Major

Isn’t it a coincidence that, as with May and whoever wins Tuesday, two of them had the crown given to them and didn’t win it.

Give you Major ..yea
THATCHER..for all her faults if she had been PM I think we would have left the EU in march.
CALLAGHAN ..No

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Re: Boris

Postby bfcjg » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:29 pm

Johnson will be the shortest serving PM in history. He will lose a confidence vote and the resulting election will be won by a coalition of Labour and liberals.

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Re: Boris

Postby DomBFC1882 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:30 pm

Go Boris you and Trump are a dream team

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Re: Boris

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:30 pm

bfcjg wrote:Johnson will be the shortest serving PM in history. He will lose a confidence vote and the resulting election will be won by a coalition of Labour and liberals.

God help us! :roll:
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Re: Boris

Postby nil_desperandum » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:48 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:In my lifetime.
Callaghan
Thatcher
Major

Isn’t it a coincidence that, as with May and whoever wins Tuesday, two of them had the crown given to them and didn’t win it.

All those 3 were political giants compared to Cameron and May.
Personally didn't agree with much of what Thatcher did, but she was good at her job.
Callaghan - a modest man - once admitted that he was probably the worst PM for 200 years, but he inherited a poisoned chalice from Wilson, and was actually turning things round, and most analysts believe that had he called a Gen Election in 1978 he would have won, but he delayed and everything went wrong for him that winter. Achieved way more than May though.
Like May, Major was dogged by the extreme anti-EU factions in his party, but his handling of the economy was generally regarded as more than competent as he took us out of the 1990 / 92 recession, and he defied all expectations by winning the 1992 general Election with the highest ever popular vote (to that date). [Over 14 million].
He also paved the way for the Belfast Agreement.
Will history judge that Cameron or May achieved anything positive? (And there are a long list of negatives).

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Re: Boris

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:51 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:All those 3 were political giants compared to Cameron and May.
Personally didn't agree with much of what Thatcher did, but she was good at her job.
Callaghan - a modest man - once admitted that he was probably the worst PM for 200 years, but he inherited a poisoned chalice from Wilson, and was actually turning things round, and most analysts believe that had he called a Gen Election in 1978 he would have won, but he delayed and everything went wrong for him that winter. Achieved way more than May though.
Like May, Major was dogged by the extreme anti-EU factions in his party, but his handling of the economy was generally regarded as more than competent as he took us out of the 1990 / 92 recession, and he defied all expectations by winning the 1992 general Election with the highest ever popular vote (to that date). [Over 14 million].
He also paved the way for the Belfast Agreement.
Will history judge that Cameron or May achieved anything positive? (And there are a long list of negatives).

Cameron and his Liberal buddy Clegg well and truly screwed the country, ,,,then they knighted him ...WTF... :D :D

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Re: Boris

Postby taio » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:59 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:Can only think of one, and that's the guy who preceded her and left us all in this mess. (Cameron)
Her astounding levels of incompetency and dishonesty, (with herself and those around her), put her a v close second though.


Wasn't in favour of having a referendum. But I wouldn't find it easy arguing that Cameron is the worst PM ever because of Brexit, given he democratically delivered what a majority of people want. In several years a majority of people might look back and say Cameron sticking to his manifesto promise to hold a referendum, resulting in Brexit, has proven to be a good thing. I have big doubts about that but like everyone else I don't know.

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Re: Boris

Postby nil_desperandum » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:07 pm

taio wrote:Wasn't in favour of having a referendum. But I wouldn't find it easy arguing that Cameron is the worst PM ever because of Brexit, given he democratically delivered what a majority of people want..

Except in his Etonian arrogance he only planned for winning and that's why we're in such a state, and additionally when he lost he ran away like a spoilt child.
History will not look upon him kindly I'm sure.
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Re: Boris

Postby taio » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:16 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:Except in his Etonian arrogance he only planned for winning and that's why we're in such a state, and additionally when he lost he ran away like a spoilt child.
History will not look upon him kindly I'm sure.


I can't be as sure as you, but I feel it's too early for me to judge anyway without knowing the true impact of Brexit. He didn't need a plan for losing prior to the referendum - couldn't have meaningfully engaged the EU prior to the result and there's been the last three years for doing that which has obviously failed. And there's no way he could do anything other than resign at that point.

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Re: Boris

Postby ClaretMoffitt » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:18 pm

Hes an idiotic, incompetent, lying buffoon; but he triggers the snowflakes and when all is said and done, that's all that really matters to me.

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Re: Boris

Postby Imploding Turtle » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:20 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Hes an idiotic, incompetent, lying buffoon; but he triggers the snowflakes and when all is said and done, that's all that really matters to me.


I'm not entirely sure that's true any more. I think you're using "he triggers the libs" to cover for what you know are abhorrent and socially unacceptable beliefs. Just like the rest of the alt-right.

It certainly explains why you persist with that attitude even after it's been explained to you numerous times how you're helping these fascists. I think that's your intent.

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Re: Boris

Postby mkmel » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:24 pm

Is there anyone from any of the Political Parties that would do a good job as our Prime Minister?

I would say that this is the worst bunch of politicians in living memory and no party worth voting for
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Re: Boris

Postby ClaretMoffitt » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:24 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I'm not entirely sure that's true any more. I think you're using "he triggers the libs" to cover for what you know are abhorrent and socially unacceptable beliefs. Just like the rest of the alt-right.

It certainly explains why you persist with that attitude even after it's been explained to you numerous times how you're helping these fascists. I think that's your intent.


I do have abhorrent and socially unacceptable beliefs, that's true. Just not the ones you think I do.

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Re: Boris

Postby Imploding Turtle » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:34 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:I do have abhorrent and socially unacceptable beliefs, that's true. Just not the ones you think I do.


Go on then, share them.

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Re: Boris

Postby Claret-On-A-T-Rex » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:35 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Hes an idiotic, incompetent, lying buffoon; but he triggers the snowflakes and when all is said and done, that's all that really matters to me.


I'm quite happy that Boris will become Prime Minister, it's the beginning of the end for Brexit.

Personally speaking I'd like to see him milkshaked a few times before he's booted out of the job for being an idiot.
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Re: Boris

Postby ClaretMoffitt » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:38 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Go on then, share them.


Would rather not get banned again thanks.
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Re: Boris

Postby Tricky Trevor » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:38 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:Can only think of one, and that's the guy who preceded her and left us all in this mess. (Cameron)
Her astounding levels of incompetency and dishonesty, (with herself and those around her), put her a v close second though.

As PM your job is to do what’s best for Britain. As she knows a no deal is disastrously bad for the UK she tried to get a deal. Because she’d climbed into bed with the Unionist party that was never going to happen. I hate tories but after the Hameron/Osbourne austerity ******** I’d have loved to see what she could have done given a free run at the job.

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Re: Boris

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Re: Boris

Postby Bordeauxclaret » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:51 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Would rather not get banned again thanks.


Not from Blackburn are you?
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Re: Boris

Postby barba » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:50 pm

Backing Boris at 10-1 is up there with backing Brexit and Trump.

Joining to vote for him helped.

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Re: Boris

Postby IanMcL » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:29 pm

I find it depressing that all the leadership choices, presented to British folk, are of the lowest calibre.





I find it depressing that the British folk prefer them to the quality of Europe.

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Re: Boris

Postby Colburn_Claret » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:32 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:As PM your job is to do what’s best for Britain. As she knows a no deal is disastrously bad for the UK she tried to get a deal. Because she’d climbed into bed with the Unionist party that was never going to happen. I hate tories but after the Hameron/Osbourne austerity ******** I’d have loved to see what she could have done given a free run at the job.

If she knew no deal was a disaster why did she repeatedly say no deal was better than a bad deal.
We only ever had 2 bargaining chips the threat of a no deal, and the 39 billion we paid them every year. As has been highlighted this week she gave them up without the EU even asking. She was bloody atrocious, and a lying atrocity to boot. She should have stepped aside for someone who actually believed in Brexit.
People, especially remainers, will blame this mess on Brexit, but it isnt and never was Brexits fault, just the incompetent cow pretending to deliver it.

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Re: Boris

Postby RingoMcCartney » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:37 pm

IanMcL wrote:I find it depressing that all the leadership choices, presented to British folk, are of the lowest calibre.





I find it depressing that the British folk prefer them to the quality of Europe.


May I recommend you listen to this fella.

FWIW I think he's very very talented Ian.

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Re: Boris

Postby Colburn_Claret » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:37 pm

IanMcL wrote:I find it depressing that all the leadership choices, presented to British folk, are of the lowest calibre.





I find it depressing that the British folk prefer them to the quality of Europe.

If you think that you are missing the point. I'd rather be run by incompetents I can get rid of, than clever people I have no control over.
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Re: Boris

Postby bobinho » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:45 pm

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:I'm quite happy that Boris will become Prime Minister, it's the beginning of the end for Brexit.


I believe that time has been and gone.

Surprised that out of the two that are left, you think that Brexiteer Boris is the least likely to deliver it.
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Re: Boris

Postby Clarets4me » Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:00 am

Steve1956 wrote:Cameron and his Liberal buddy Clegg well and truly screwed the country, ,,,then they knighted him ...WTF... :D :D


Jack Straw's son, Will, led the " Remain " campaign to defeat despite the odds, failed to get elected in Rossendale & Darwen, and was made a " Commander of the British Empire " !! :lol: :lol:

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Re: Boris

Postby HunterST_BFC » Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:15 am

So we find out this week who is our un-elected "Leader".
Half the Cab' resigns.
Then they all F.O. for their hols. Nothing fixed.............

Great Britain :cry: :roll:

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Re: Boris

Postby tim_noone » Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:29 am

Live Love Laugh.

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Re: Boris

Postby mdd2 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:08 am

HunterST_BFC wrote:So we find out this week who is our un-elected "Leader".
Half the Cab' resigns.
Then they all F.O. for their hols. Nothing fixed.............

Great Britain :cry: :roll:

It is the way we work.
Churchill, Eden, MacMillan, Home, Callaghan, Major, Brown, May and Boris/Hunt have all become PM since 1940 without winning an election first and some were never elected Home, Callaghan, Brown.
Eden was the only one of those to call an immediate General Election after taking office- Churchill for obvious reasons didn't in 1940.
Only Eden, McMillan Major and May were returned to office after the GE which followed their first stint as PM.
Only Attlee, Wilson, Heath, Thatcher, Blair and Cameron took the PM post after first winning a GE

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Re: Boris

Postby Siddo » Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:26 am

Please can we not call him Boris. Every other PM was generally referred to bu using their last name.
Calling this person by his first name infers friendliness, acceptance, even an amount of likeability.
He is a dangerous, self serving, arrogant semi fascist and I will never, ever call him anything other than Johnson.
God help the north of England for investment when he gets in and we leave the EU. It will make the winter of discontent look like last summer.
Tosser!
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Re: Boris

Postby Quickenthetempo » Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:31 am

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:I'm quite happy that Boris will become Prime Minister, it's the beginning of the end for Brexit.

Personally speaking I'd like to see him milkshaked a few times before he's booted out of the job for being an idiot.

This is the man that cries on here, about someone making fun behind his wife's back at work, but wants another individual milkshaked in their workplace.

Stay classy.
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Re: Boris

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Re: Boris

Postby Quickenthetempo » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:04 am

Who knows what Boris will do? I don't even think he does but he could just end up with a great deal from the EU.

Apparently the EU have had secret meetings with him in a desperate move to avoid No deal.

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Re: Boris

Postby Colburn_Claret » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:42 am

I've said many times, no deal suits nobody.
The problem is, because of the last 3 years, we wont get a deal until after we've left without one.
Cue panic.........
People just need to give it time, instead of going with knee jerk reactions, and it will all settle down

Then we can remove Boris.

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Re: Boris

Postby nil_desperandum » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:53 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:People just need to give it time, instead of going with knee jerk reactions, and it will all settle down

Then we can remove Boris.

I believe that the vast majority of businessmen and trad. Conservatives said the same thing about an egotist in the early 30s in a country not too far away from here.
It turned out to be rather more difficult removing him than they could have imagined.

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Re: Boris

Postby Colburn_Claret » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:12 am

nil_desperandum wrote:I believe that the vast majority of businessmen and trad. Conservatives said the same thing about an egotist in the early 30s in a country not too far away from here.
It turned out to be rather more difficult removing him than they could have imagined.

A really poor comparison to be honest. Johnson has his faults but he hasn't started gassing anybody yet. The German people were blind to much of what the Reich were doing, they could only see, or only hear the positives. If Hitler was around today he wouldn't find it so easy. Johnson wont find it easy either. The press, media and his enemies will be waiting to pounce on every little snippet of bad news. Hes going to need a lot of luck to survive.
He also deserves patience to see what Brexit can deliver. I believe it's for the best, but it will take a couple of years at least for it to manifest itself.
If the negativity and back stabbing continue post Brexit, then we will reap what we sow.

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Re: Boris

Postby claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:13 am

nil_desperandum wrote:I believe that the vast majority of businessmen and trad. Conservatives said the same thing about an egotist in the early 30s in a country not too far away from here.
It turned out to be rather more difficult removing him than they could have imagined.




Boris = Hitler

You do like these huge leaps into the dark don't you.

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Re: Boris

Postby IanMcL » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:37 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:If you think that you are missing the point. I'd rather be run by incompetents I can get rid of, than clever people I have no control over.

You think you have any control over anyone at Westminster?

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Re: Boris

Postby AlargeClaret » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:38 am

Boris is on a huge gamble and he knows damn well what the score is .If it fails ( very possibly) and it goes t1ts up he can just say he was shafted by parliament /remainers etc ( and he’s very likely correct ) he can mooch off ruffle his hair have a pint of port and find some new fillys to roger . However if he pulled it off he’ll be “Sir Bojo of Londinium” in perpetuity.

It’s also worth noting Brexit aside he’s a soppy old tart with very mainstream centrist modern Tory views , not quite the “ alt right” klansman the puce faced ragers would have you believe
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Re: Boris

Postby IanMcL » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:39 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Boris = Hitler

You do like these huge leaps into the dark don't you.

Yes I agree, That is a goose step too far!
Johnson will be Trumpler's Mussolini.


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