Eng Vs Ire Test match

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Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:31 am

Lords is full of sunshine but the ground staff have left a bit of grass on top to make sure the pitch lasts 4 days.

Ireland have made a good start getting Roy out twice, with the first anl LBW off a no ball.

21-1 now.
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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:36 am

Plenty of movement for these bowlers, who although only bowl at speeds of 75 to 80mph. Make you play at everything.

31-1 off 8 overs.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:48 am

36-2 Denly LBW

Root in

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Reckoner » Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:52 am

Blimey, Burns out too.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:03 pm

Root gone now.

Getting mullared

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Bosscat » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:08 pm

Bairstow goes without troubling the scorer :lol: :lol: :lol:

Are we really world cup winners

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Reckoner » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:08 pm

What the....

No sandpaper required, Starc will be rubbing his hands.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:09 pm

42-5 Bairstow bowled for 0.

England falling apart without the Lancashire lads.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Bosscat » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:09 pm

And another being reviewed and hes gone :lol:

42-6

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:12 pm

Great to get back to playing proper cricket and watching our batsmen making hay while the sun shines :D
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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Royboyclaret » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:12 pm

Not one of the England batsmen has looked even remotely comfortable against this attack. Ireland look like taking a wicket with every single delivery. Lucky to reach 100 at this rate.

42-6 now.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Spijed » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:20 pm

7 down!

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Reckoner » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:20 pm

Jesus wept getting murtaghed

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:24 pm

Blimey. My tickets for day 3 are looking like becoming redundant.
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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by JaLL193 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:25 pm

Not surprised in the slightest.

Below average side for years, massive overhaul required of the whole red ball set up after we have been thumped in The Ashes.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by RVclaret » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:33 pm

Hopefully this is just a World Cup hangover getting out of our system... but I fear it’s more than that *gulp*.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:37 pm

It would of been easier facing the Aussie attack as 5 out of 6 balls would be going over the top of the stumps at their pace.
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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:46 pm

58-8

As a test match ever been finished in one day?

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Buxtonclaret » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:51 pm

8-)
Stop fretting.
It's obviously deliberate.
We're just lulling the Aussie's, that's all.
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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Spijed » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:59 pm

As long as England can get Ireland out for 150 I don't think there will be too much damage done in the match.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Bosscat » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:09 pm

All out for 85

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:09 pm

85 all out

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Colburn_Claret » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:09 pm

Shocking, but I cant believe how green that wicket is. I thought there was a heatwave over there.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by CoolClaret » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:16 pm

Only England could get decimated by an Englishman playing for Ireland, at the home of cricket, that just so happens to be the blokes county home ground...

The wicket looked like it was at Towneley tbf... I'm not so sure about Lords; our win % there is abysmal compared to say Old Trafford and Edgbaston and we play a lot of the opening tests at Lords.. Getting off to a bad start!

The Aussies will be wetting themselves laughing

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Sausage » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:16 pm

I was offered tickets for Day 3 of this test. I don't think there's going to be a Day 3.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Tricky Trevor » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:20 pm

When was the last time we lost 6 wickets for 7 runs? Some dreadful shots played today.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:33 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:Blimey. My tickets for day 3 are looking like becoming redundant.
They will be able to fit a couple of one dayers in at the end of this test :D

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Hibsclaret » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:41 pm

Definitely a mixture of absolutely brilliant bowling and poor batting. Well played Ireland, absolutely fantastic stuff.

In fairness to England most of the team have been playing a very different style of cricket for the last 2 months and it can take time to adjust. That said they are definitely missing an Alistair Cook/Mike Atherton type player to open and see off the new ball. If you don’t see off a new ball on that sort of pitch you can get the perfect storm with the later batsmen still in one day mode.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by tiger76 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:49 pm

Shocking performance by England,but it's not a surprise anymore,these modern players can't adapt to TM cricket.they want to clatter every ball for 4.

Ireland bowled well but until they bat we can't be sure it's a aberration by England's batsman or a dodgy track.

These collapses are not new in recent years though.

England did not lose 10 wickets in a session between 1938 and 2016. They have done this 4 times in their last 34 Tests:
v Ban Mirpur 2016
v NZ Auckland 2018
v Ind Nottingham 2018
v Ire Lord's 2019

Apart from Root no-one has the mentality to grind an innings out,very worrying with the Ashes round the corner.

What the heck does Graham Thorpe coach in the nets,it's clearly not a forward defensive.

Denly top scored with 23 that sums the whole sorry innings up for me.
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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:04 pm

45-1We haven't bowled particular well.

The good balls have beat the outside edge or been played and missed.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Local cricketer » Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:17 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:45-1We haven't bowled particular well.

The good balls have beat the outside edge or been played and missed.
Typical england bowl a foot short looks nice flying past the edge but not threatening

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Vino blanco » Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:25 pm

I hope Jimmy is fit for the opening Test against the Aussies.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by jrgbfc » Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:35 pm

The Test side have been going backwards for a few years now. I know Bayliss was brought in to concentrate on the one day game so after the World Cup win you could argue he's done his job, but the Test side badly needs a new man at the helm.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:40 pm

The Yorkshire lads are having a nightmare.

Root decides to bat first and picks two spinners. Low score and a drop catch so far.
Bairstow duck and just let's a catch go past him without moving.
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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by kentonclaret » Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:45 pm

"shocking, but I can't believe how green that wicket is"

Excuse me, but didn't England win the toss or is Joe Root colour blind?

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by jrgbfc » Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:51 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:The Yorkshire lads are having a nightmare.

Root decides to bat first and picks two spinners. Low score and a drop catch so far.
Bairstow duck and just let's a catch go past him without moving.
The lad Foakes at Surrey is the best wicketkeeper we have by far but seems like we dropped him after Bairstow spat his dummy out because they took the gloves off him.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Spijed » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:38 pm

132-3

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:50 pm

138 for 4, great delivery for Stone to get his first Test wicket

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:55 pm

5 down now.

Stone give a real working over to Wilson.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:08 pm

Broad got another.

146-6

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by ClaretDiver » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:34 pm

7 now!

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Local cricketer » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:42 pm

Over rates dismal as well. The paying public going to be robbed again

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:45 pm

Local cricketer wrote:Over rates dismal as well. The paying public going to be robbed again
Bizarre they thought they could get 98 overs a day in to compensate for it only being 4 days.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by jrgbfc » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:58 pm

They struggle to get 90 overs in so not sure what the plan is really. Are they going to let them play past 6.30, which I think is the usual cut off time?

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Local cricketer » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:00 pm

jrgbfc wrote:They struggle to get 90 overs in so not sure what the plan is really. Are they going to let them play past 6.30, which I think is the usual cut off time?
Can play till 7 in this game but still 20 odd overs to ball

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by tiger76 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:49 pm

Ireland 207 all out at the close,England even sent a nightwatchman out to see off 1 over,lead of 122 is more useful on this wicket,a couple of England's top order will have to go big 2nd dig,ideally a hundred or more,beyond Root i can't see who's capable though,good test of the newbies character this situation,we'll see what they're made off,Ireland's top 5 all made double figures,so clearly the pitch isn't the minefield it appeared when England were batting in the morning session.

What the hell possessed Joe to bat first beats me,you do wonder if England were complacent,if that was the case then they've been given a harsh lesson in test cricket,yes Buttler and Stokes are being rested,plus Archer,Wood and Jimmy are all injured,but there should have been enough in England's batting line-up to amass a decent score,as Ireland managed to do,even on a green track,Sam Curran came in at NR 8 for goodness sake.

Just for comparison Kevin O'Brien finished 28 NO,and stayed at the crease for over 2 hours,3 of the Irish top 4 batted for over an hour,and the other batter close to an hour,that's proper test match application,England could learn a thing or two from this discipline,you'll never score runs in the dressing room.

England's Longest innings was Rory Burns at 52 minutes,is it any wonder England are behind the 8 ball in this test.

We can only hope this is a one-off and once the Ashes commence,England discover some batting form,but judging this effort that looks a forlorn hope.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by CleggHall » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:09 pm

In the chase for World Cup white ball slogging, we have forgotten how to play 4 day cricket and build an innings. The standard in county cricket is very low yet Yorkshire can easily slog 255 off 20 overs. None of their batters are however of test standard.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:41 pm

You’d be quite happy bowling a side out for 207 on the first day of a test.

If you’d not already been rolled for eighty-effing-five.
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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Spijed » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:34 pm

Out of curiosity, what do people see as more important - winning the one day world cup or winning the Ashes series?

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by LeadBelly » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:35 pm

I was down there today, it was very enjoyable apart from England's poor batting.

Tickets were about half price cf ashes tickets & I suspect there were some big concessions - given how many kids were there. There were a lot of Irish supporters and they fair enjoyed the morning. It's good to see a more varied (younger/family orientated) crowd there cf the usual beige chinos + blue shirt & blazer brigade.
Pitch was more than a bit green but the Irish bowlers made the best of it & English batsmen showed a considerable lack of application. It was odd when England bowled, not much happening at first then, after tea, bowlers were getting something.

The Yorkies who come on cricket threads will be quiet after that - Root + Bairstow 2 runs in total; then a low dropped catch from Root + one where the keeper couldnt be ***ed to move a foot to his right to take a catch.
Still - bookies make England favourites (presumably on the assumption that they cant bat so poorly again) but I'm not so sure.

Bloomin' hot down there today though, factor 50 for me and a couple of hour-long sessions round the back of the nursery end in the shade watching on the screen. Possibly a red face tomorrow.

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