Eng Vs Ire Test match

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by kentonclaret » Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:53 pm

"I know this isn't England's First X1"

Cannot see how they are going to strengthen the batting significantly, especially the top3, before the First Test next week. Burns on this showing is a walking wicket.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by tiger76 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:07 pm

kentonclaret wrote:"I know this isn't England's First X1"

Cannot see how they are going to strengthen the batting significantly, especially the top3, before the First Test next week. Burns on this showing is a walking wicket.
Neither can i but the warning signs have been flashing for at least a couple of years now,how many times have England found themselves 3 down for less than 50,usually Root,Stokes or Buttler have ridden to the rescue,at least Roy made runs today thank goodness,so he'll open who'll partner him i have no idea.

The bowling has papered over the cracks for far too long.i can't remember the last time England had a convincing test match batting showing and rattled up 500+,the fact that a nightwatchman can bat for nearly 4 hours and score 90,suggests that the pitch wasn't a problem today,and yet England still collapsed mid-innings again,it's so predictable,unless there is significant improvement the Ashes can be waved goodbye.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:31 pm

So what’s the answer?

Too much one-day and 20/20 is often cited as the reason batters can’t play properly but we still play enough four-day cricket that batters should know how to set their stall out for the long haul. The BP system in the CC doesn’t put too much pressure on to score at a pace that should result in reckless batting.

Is the fixture list so congested that the pressure is on to score quickly and finish games early to get an extra day off?

Is it a capability issue or does it just boil down to a poor mindset at the crease?

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:30 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:So what’s the answer?

Too much one-day and 20/20 is often cited as the reason batters can’t play properly but we still play enough four-day cricket that batters should know how to set their stall out for the long haul. The BP system in the CC doesn’t put too much pressure on to score at a pace that should result in reckless batting.

Is the fixture list so congested that the pressure is on to score quickly and finish games early to get an extra day off?

Is it a capability issue or does it just boil down to a poor mindset at the crease?
Poor levels of concentration. We have it all the time on lots of TV programmes when adverts come on and then this is followed by around one and a half minutesreminder of what happened before the adverts!
More and more people use their phones, computers, tablets to remind them what they need to do etc., etc. ---why?

A musician has one chance to get it right in any performance so they concentrate. When driving you need to have 100% concentration to drive properly, however, many drivers just use a car to go from A to B and do not concenetrate on what they are doing! I watched a programme the other day when a young lass had an accident and when asked what she was doing by the policeman ---she said that she was daydreaming! I tihnk that some of our cricketers have the same problem!

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by LeadBelly » Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:41 pm

We have it all the time on lots of TV programmes when adverts come on and then this is followed by around one and a half minutesreminder of what happened before the adverts!
Yeah, I hate that. Ive always thought the reason was just to stretch out the programme though.They can eke out a 15-18 minute prog into 30 minutes by repeating bits.
I found the cricket WC equally annoying- forever showing things that had happened earlier in the over/game; Jesus- Ive just watched it, no need to reiterate it as if I cant recall what happened a few minutes ago.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:46 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:Poor levels of concentration. We have it all the time on lots of TV programmes when adverts come on and then this is followed by around one and a half minutesreminder of what happened before the adverts!
More and more people use their phones, computers, tablets to remind them what they need to do etc., etc. ---why?

A musician has one chance to get it right in any performance so they concentrate. When driving you need to have 100% concentration to drive properly, however, many drivers just use a car to go from A to B and do not concenetrate on what they are doing! I watched a programme the other day when a young lass had an accident and when asked what she was doing by the policeman ---she said that she was daydreaming! I tihnk that some of our cricketers have the same problem!
Are you saying The Yorkshire Vet is the reason we can’t bat?

That should make a good half-hour discussion on TMS!

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:54 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:Are you saying The Yorkshire Vet is the reason we can’t bat?

That should make a good half-hour discussion on TMS!
I have no idea who the Yorkshire Vet is ---what number does he bat?

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:04 pm

He’s good at seeing off balls so he could open.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Tribesmen » Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:20 am

So one wicket to go then the Irish are in , still can't see them getting the runs to win the game but if they do it will do Irish cricket the world of good .

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:29 am

Tribesmen wrote:So one wicket to go then the Irish are in , still can't see them getting the runs to win the game but if they do it will do Irish cricket the world of good .
The Irish boys have played really well and not looked like they suffer from pressure.

The chase could be different though when they realise they could win.

Unfortunately cricket is about 70% of a mental game with self doubt a huge factor.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by ClaretDiver » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:34 am

I still can't believe that a test has been squeezed in in between the World Cup and the Ashes....for me, ridiculous!

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by tiger76 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:39 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:The Irish boys have played really well and not looked like they suffer from pressure.

The chase could be different though when they realise they could win.

Unfortunately cricket is about 70% of a mental game with self doubt a huge factor.
It looks like Ireland will be chasing around 200 to win,if the pitch remains good,there's no reason why they can't knock them off,if i was in the Irish camp i'd be saying if Leech who's a nr 11 can bag 90+,then surely one or two of our top order can manage 50's.

Whatever the outcome the Irish will take the moral victory.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by edison » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:16 pm

I think England will win this handily enough, but at least Ireland made it interesting.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Tribesmen » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:17 pm

Stone out first ball 182 to win .
Now rain ( always get in England not like Ireland ) has started but the play back on again at 12.30 .

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by edison » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:19 pm

182 over 2 days. What do you reckon Tribesmen?

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Tribesmen » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:23 pm

edison wrote:182 over 2 days. What do you reckon Tribesmen?

Don't think we will do it Edison as I had put it at around 150 was just about right , but then what do I know just hope they can win today .

Love it at work as people are coming up to me asking have we won yet .

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by edison » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:26 pm

I spent yesterday running loops of the Stormont cricket pitch - amazed they let people onto it, provided they stick to the perimeter

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by tiger76 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:53 pm

11-1 stunning catch by Bairstow to get rid of Porterfield,and a wicket for Woakes,

About blessed time Johnny contributed something in this game.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by edison » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:03 pm

This could be done very quickly

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Vino blanco » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:03 pm

18/2, wicket for Broad.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Vino blanco » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:05 pm

19/3, clean bowled by Woakes.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by ClaretDiver » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:05 pm

19/3 oohhh!! Game on!

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by edison » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:08 pm

very very quickly

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by WestMidsClaret » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:19 pm

edison wrote:very very quickly
Very very VERY quickly :D

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by ClaretDiver » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:19 pm

4 gone now!

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by edison » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:22 pm

WestMidsClaret wrote:Very very VERY quickly :D
beat me to it - hey it was fun while it lasted

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Spijed » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:23 pm

Regardless of the result you know Root, Bairstow etc. will paper over the cracks saying what a good side Ireland are.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by claret10 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:23 pm

24/5 after LBW not out reviewed

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by WestMidsClaret » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:23 pm

edison wrote:beat me to it - hey it was fun while it lasted
To be fair and it hasn't finished yet but your boys have given it a good go and made it a really good game.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:26 pm

edison wrote:beat me to it - hey it was fun while it lasted
No shame in it.

Ireland have performed brilliantly.

No Test teams in the world would be comfortable batting there today.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by WestMidsClaret » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:27 pm

6 down now.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Hibsclaret » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:31 pm

Should have took that 10/11.

:o

Like printing money tbh

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by tiger76 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:39 pm

Spijed wrote:Regardless of the result you know Root, Bairstow etc. will paper over the cracks saying what a good side Ireland are.

The proof in the pudding will be when the Ashes start,but if i was an Australian watching this,i wouldn't be quaking in my boots about England's batting,the bowling on the other hand.

Never mind a 4 day test,if this is a guide to the rest of the summer,most of the games won't last beyond day 3,this one has just about got to a third day,and a lot of that is due to the weather.

I hope no-ones got 4th and 5th day tickets,because i fear they won't be required.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Bosscat » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:39 pm

7 down now :D

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by claret10 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:40 pm

Irish batsman hits a six....Broad replies by hitting his middle stump! 32/7

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:42 pm

All because our bowlers have finally pitched the ball up instead of pitching short ---it isn't rocket science!
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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Bosscat » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:45 pm

Make that 8 :lol:

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by edison » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:47 pm

I think we still might do it...

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Bosscat » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:49 pm

Joking apart got to give these Irish lads a whole heap of credit ... ooops 9 down

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by claret10 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:49 pm

Thats 9! one to go

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Tribesmen » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:53 pm

Don't know what to say as Ireland had the chance to beat England and now it's all but over .

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Bosscat » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:57 pm

They think its all over...... it is now :D

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by ClaretDiver » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:57 pm

Done.....plucky from Ireland but the England bowlers pulled it out iin the end!

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by edison » Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:04 pm

I think we still might do it...oh

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Tribesmen » Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:05 pm

38 all out ................... Not much to add really .

Right back to work .

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by edison » Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:14 pm

(switches Tour on to see how Pinot is doing)

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Spijed » Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:16 pm

In reality, is this any different to a league side struggling against a non league team in the FA cup?

Perhaps not as easy as we think it should be.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Bosscat » Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:20 pm

LeadBelly wrote:The Yorkies who come on cricket threads will be quiet after that - Root + Bairstow 2 runs in total; then a low dropped catch from Root + one where the keeper couldnt be ***ed to move a foot to his right to take a catch..
Don't be a tit m8 :lol: I know its just Banter but in that 2nd Paddy innings ... Root made 4 catches Bairstow the 1 :D, apart from the bowlers they were the only others who touched the ball.

Think yourself lucky they were at a non-testmatch and not at Headingly last night :D

Ooooh Leadbellys deleted his post :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by LeadBelly » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:54 pm

I've never deleted a post of mine in all the time I've been on this board (or the previous).

Bairstow made a good catch for the first wicket but it doesnt alter the fact that he failed to move for one about a foot from him in the first innings and that his Test Match batting has been poor recently.

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Re: Eng Vs Ire Test match

Post by Bosscat » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:01 pm

LeadBelly wrote:I've never deleted a post of mine in all the time I've been on this board (or the previous.
Someone did m8 :lol:

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