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ARTICLE: We’ve moved Into the 1960s

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:47 pm

Another five years of programmes, results and league tables added - from 1960/61 to 1964/65

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Post by Royboyclaret » Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:55 pm

Another fabulous five year period in our history. Look forward to taking in all the information later this evening.

First thing to notice though on the intro is the season of the squad photo of 1962/63 featuring Billy Marshall top left. I think the photo must be 1960/61 as we changed to round-necks in Nov.'61 and sold Marshall to Oldham soon after.

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Post by Royboyclaret » Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:22 pm

Tony, in the fixtures and results section the last season I'm seeing is 1959/60.

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:37 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:Tony, in the fixtures and results section the last season I'm seeing is 1959/60.
I’ll be home in about ten mins and will check it.

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:08 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:Tony, in the fixtures and results section the last season I'm seeing is 1959/60.
All sorted - just some opposition goalscorers missing from 1961/62 from three clubs

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Post by Royboyclaret » Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:38 pm

Lost count of the number of goals Jimmy Greaves scored against us......did he ever fail to score?!

Although we won the title in '59/'60 for me that great side didn't peak until the early part of the '61/'62 season. In Sept.'61 we played 7 won 7 and scored 27 goals, 20 of those away from the Turf in 4 away games. We were literally blowing away every team that came before us and it was a joy to watch. Harry Potts always said go out and play with a smile on your boots, and we certainly did that. Undoubtedly my favourite ever time watching the Clarets.

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:57 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:Lost count of the number of goals Jimmy Greaves scored against us......did he ever fail to score?!

Although we won the title in '59/'60 for me that great side didn't peak until the early part of the '61/'62 season. In Sept.'61 we played 7 won 7 and scored 27 goals, 20 of those away from the Turf in 4 away games. We were literally blowing away every team that came before us and it was a joy to watch. Harry Potts always said go out and play with a smile on your boots, and we certainly did that. Undoubtedly my favourite ever time watching the Clarets.
Greaves had a hell of a record against us but I think he did just about against every other team.

All those names on the scorers lists now are players I remember playing against us and then I see Stephenson (again), Pilkington and Fenton on that list.

It is widely believed that we peaked on the night of the Leicester game in 1961/62 when we won 6-2. Jimmy Mac said that was just about the best ever performance.
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Post by FCBurnley » Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:59 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:Lost count of the number of goals Jimmy Greaves scored against us......did he ever fail to score?!

Although we won the title in '59/'60 for me that great side didn't peak until the early part of the '61/'62 season. In Sept.'61 we played 7 won 7 and scored 27 goals, 20 of those away from the Turf in 4 away games. We were literally blowing away every team that came before us and it was a joy to watch. Harry Potts always said go out and play with a smile on your boots, and we certainly did that. Undoubtedly my favourite ever time watching the Clarets.
They were certainly the golden years but to end 61/2 with nothing was a bitter pill. Could and maybe should have done the double but ended up with nowt. We scored 101 goals but conceded 67. How times have changed.
61/2 of course was the season of the Swan/Kay match fixing scandal. Who knows how that might have changed things. If my memory serves me right Ipswich v Wednesday was one of the games involved.
Couldnt argue with the Cup Final result but getting to Wembley probably cost us the title. Still league and cup runners up is something we are unlikely to ever see again. But I said that about getting into the PL and playing in Europe again. So what do i know.
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Post by Royboyclaret » Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:16 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Greaves had a hell of a record against us but I think he did just about against every other team.

All those names on the scorers lists now are players I remember playing against us and then I see Stephenson (again), Pilkington and Fenton on that list.

It is widely believed that we peaked on the night of the Leicester game in 1961/62 when we won 6-2. Jimmy Mac said that was just about the best ever performance.
And for good measure, just four days earlier, we also won 6-2 away at Birmingham. From memory in both those games we were 6-0 in front shortly after the hour mark and then declared. Hard to believe, I know, but we were unplayable at that time, with a team that was perfectly balanced from back to front.

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Post by Pstotto » Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:08 pm

In 61/62 it says we won 4-2 at Spurs, but it names four goalscorers for them, so maybe it should say we lost 4-2 instead.

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Post by Royboyclaret » Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:17 pm

Pstotto wrote:In 61/62 it says we won 4-2 at Spurs, but it names four goalscorers for them, so maybe it should say we lost 4-2 instead.
Aye, we lost 2-4, Ray Pointer scored our two.
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Post by Pstotto » Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:19 pm

My proof reading skill has been confirmed.

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Post by FCBurnley » Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:20 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:And for good measure, just four days earlier, we also won 6-2 away at Birmingham. From memory in both those games we were 6-0 in front shortly after the hour mark and then declared. Hard to believe, I know, but we were unplayable at that time, with a team that was perfectly balanced from back to front.
We also won our next away game 5-3 at Fulham. The 3 games were in a 14 day spell and we also beat Everton at home during the same spell. Of the 17 away goals we scored Ray Pointer had 5 (plus 2 at home v Everton), John Connelly 5 ,Bomber Harris and Jimmy Mac 2 each and Jimmy Robson 3.

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:43 pm

Pstotto wrote:In 61/62 it says we won 4-2 at Spurs, but it names four goalscorers for them, so maybe it should say we lost 4-2 instead.
Thanks. There will be errors. I’ll get this one corrected.

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Post by Pstotto » Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:42 pm

If I have a look at the others and I spot anything, I'll tell you. Anyway, it's a good if tragic read of the list of how Burnley missed the prizes in 62, so worth the effort.

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:00 pm

I’ve corrected the Spurs result now.

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Post by mdd2 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:10 am

CT you promised me you were going to censor the 61-62 results and Table to have us top. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:21 am

mdd2 wrote:CT you promised me you were going to censor the 61-62 results and Table to have us top. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I did for most of the season

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Post by JohnDearyMe » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:52 pm

FCBurnley wrote:We also won our next away game 5-3 at Fulham. The 3 games were in a 14 day spell and we also beat Everton at home during the same spell. Of the 17 away goals we scored Ray Pointer had 5 (plus 2 at home v Everton), John Connelly 5 ,Bomber Harris and Jimmy Mac 2 each and Jimmy Robson 3.
Was that away win at Fulham our last one for a few decades? (until the away win in the midweek game in the recent promotion season)

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Post by FCBurnley » Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:13 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:Was that away win at Fulham our last one for a few decades? (until the away win in the midweek game in the recent promotion season)
I assume you mean at Fulham > If so it was not. We won 1-0 there in 64-5 Irvine the scorer. And we won 5-2 in 65-6. Irvine hat trick Oneill and Miller pen. Wonder why they didnt let Willie take it
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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:44 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:Was that away win at Fulham our last one for a few decades? (until the away win in the midweek game in the recent promotion season)
I saw us win at Fulham in 1971/72 & 1980/81
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Post by giveusaB » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:40 pm

Burnley v Swansea 1961

https://youtu.be/g-JrVt5FgPs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:45 pm

giveusaB wrote:Burnley v Swansea 1961

https://youtu.be/g-JrVt5FgPs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Brilliant

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Post by Royboyclaret » Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:25 am

giveusaB wrote:Burnley v Swansea 1961

https://youtu.be/g-JrVt5FgPs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Superb piece of film, first time seeing that for me. It was actually a 5th Round FA Cup match at the Turf with a gate of 30,977. Notice no weakened side back then in the FA Cup and it was in the middle of the two legs of the European Cup tie against Hamburg.

We reached the Cup semi-final that season before losing to Tottenham, but that game against Swansea had Jimmy Mac showing off his finest skills.

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Post by Royboyclaret » Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:34 am

Also think it was Brian Pilkington's last game for us before Bob Lord packed him off to Bolton. Pilky had a brilliant game in the first leg of the European Cup match against Hamburg on the Turf scoring twice and was gutted to be told he was leaving by Lord. Gordon Harris played in the second leg in Germany.......and scored.

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Post by giveusaB » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:01 pm

Edited highlights of Hamburg home.Great skills on a challenging pitch.


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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:26 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:Also think it was Brian Pilkington's last game for us before Bob Lord packed him off to Bolton. Pilky had a brilliant game in the first leg of the European Cup match against Hamburg on the Turf scoring twice and was gutted to be told he was leaving by Lord. Gordon Harris played in the second leg in Germany.......and scored.
And Bob Lord, as ever, had his own reason for getting Pilkington out.

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Post by Royboyclaret » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:28 pm

giveusaB wrote:Edited highlights of Hamburg home.Great skills on a challenging pitch.


https://youtu.be/-KgJmFOQ3iw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
More magic from Jimmy Mac for the third goal and a brilliant second goal from Brian Pilkington.

Hard to believe Bob Lord had sold Pilky within a couple of weeks after that game.

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Post by FCBurnley » Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:16 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:More magic from Jimmy Mac for the third goal and a brilliant second goal from Brian Pilkington.

Hard to believe Bob Lord had sold Pilky within a couple of weeks after that game.
What a different game it was then. 3-0 up in first leg with 15 mins or so left. So just sit back and defend then pick em off on the break. Er no. Not how it worked in those days. Brilliant goal by Pilkie even by todays standards. Wonder what the truth was about him going to Bolton. Oh and I will never forget those bloody square goalposts in Hamburg. Wonderful days

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Post by Royboyclaret » Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:55 pm

FCBurnley wrote:What a different game it was then. 3-0 up in first leg with 15 mins or so left. So just sit back and defend then pick em off on the break. Er no. Not how it worked in those days. Brilliant goal by Pilkie even by todays standards. Wonder what the truth was about him going to Bolton. Oh and I will never forget those bloody square goalposts in Hamburg. Wonderful days
I certainly don't know the truth behind his departure, but ClaretTony is hinting he might know.

Those square posts in Hamburg still give me nightmares. With standard round posts Mac's late shot would have rebounded into the net instead of coming back into play and we would have gone through.

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