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Clarets Players Careers Ruined By Injury

Post by ElectroClaret » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:56 pm

Following on from Bin Ont Turf's thread about Steve Gardner, there must be a lot of our players
who would have gone on to better things if not for injury.

Frank Casper, of course, was done by that b@stard Hunter.
And Peter Mellor, I think, would have been a really good keeper if not for his shoulder/arm injury.

But there must be more....

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Re: Clarets Players Careers Ruined By Injury

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:06 pm

Ashley Hoskins
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Re: Clarets Players Careers Ruined By Injury

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:15 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:Ashley Hoskins
His goal at Swansea was the top solo goal on the official site video this week. 8-)
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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:17 pm

Steve Kennedy - injured at Hull in Feb 1985, described by Jimmy Holland as horrific. He'd made his debut just about a year earlier and looked really promising. He came back two seasons later, played three games and that was it for him. He was only 19 when he suffered the injury.

Ashley Hoskin had just got into the team when John Sitton broke his leg in the first minute. He played for a good number of years after that but I think he'd have been a far better player without the injury.

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Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:18 pm

Paul Smith & Paul Weller

There’s been quite a few at Burnley over the years Casper never recovered, I went to the races with him 4-5 years ago, great bloke when you get to know him, he has never forgiven (was it Norman Hunter) for the tackle, he still expresses absolute disgust

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Post by ElectroClaret » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:18 pm

And Hoskins goal at PNE in the Sherpa.

Incredible celebrations when that went in. :D
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Post by Wokingclaret » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:19 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Steve Kennedy - injured at Hull in Feb 1985, described by Jimmy Holland as horrific. He'd made his debut just about a year earlier and looked really promising. He came back two seasons later, played three games and that was it for him. He was only 19 when he suffered the injury.
Kept on for ages too, criminal that

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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:19 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:Paul Smith & Paul Weller

There’s been quite a few at Burnley over the years Casper never recovered, I went to the races with him 4-5 years ago, great bloke when you get to know him, he has never forgiven (was it Norman Hunter) for the tackle, he still expresses absolute disgust
Frank's first home game as manager in 1983 was against Barnsley who were managed by Hunter.

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Post by andyh » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:20 pm

Kevin Reeves. Without his injury history regarding John Bond would prob have been very different.
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Post by Wokingclaret » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:20 pm

Mumby starting to come good, targeted at Scunthorpe, not the same there after

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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:21 pm

andyh wrote:Kevin Reeves. Without his injury history regarding John Bond would prob have been very different.
I'm absolutely sure it would have been. The way we were playing at the time, I remain convinced we'd have gone up that season. We had started to murder teams.
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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:22 pm

Undoubtedly you have to add Willie Irvine to this list. Goodness knows how his career would have gone but for the broken leg at Everton when he was just 23.
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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:24 pm

And potentially Danny Karbassiyoon - who knows how good he might have been?

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Post by ElectroClaret » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:24 pm

There’s been quite a few at Burnley over the years Casper never recovered, I went to the races with him 4-5 years ago, great bloke when you get to know him, he has never forgiven (was it Norman Hunter) for the tackle, he still expresses absolute disgust[/quote]

I was once at a sportsmans dinner where Paul Fletcher was guest speaker, and I asked him about the Hunter "tackle".
He said it was a dreadful challenge and NH was "a nasty piece of work".

Couldn't agree more.
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Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Frank's first home game as manager in 1983 was against Barnsley who were managed by Hunter.
Quiet bloke but after a few beers with him, he opened up to my 100 questions, really interesting bloke.

Wouldn’t repeat any as it’s not fair but I’m sure the Hunter one is common knowledge

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Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:27 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:There’s been quite a few at Burnley over the years Casper never recovered, I went to the races with him 4-5 years ago, great bloke when you get to know him, he has never forgiven (was it Norman Hunter) for the tackle, he still expresses absolute disgust
I was once at a sportsmans dinner where Paul Fletcher was guest speaker, and I asked him about the Hunter "tackle".
He said it was a dreadful challenge and NH was "a nasty piece of work".

Couldn't agree more.[/quote]


Yet we all laugh at Kevin Ball, myself included, that could have been a shocker

The Keane one, whilst sort of understandable given the history, was horrible

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Post by Wokingclaret » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:29 pm

My memory, but Stuart Pearce, one of many during the game, but did he not take out David Hamilton

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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:30 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:Quiet bloke but after a few beers with him, he opened up to my 100 questions, really interesting bloke.

Wouldn’t repeat any as it’s not fair but I’m sure the Hunter one is common knowledge
And of course Frank's son Chris suffered similarly while playing for Reading on Boxing Day 1999. He went to sue Richard Carpenter (then Cardiff) who eventually settled out of court with Chris getting £1 million compensation.
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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:30 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:My memory, but Stuart Pearce, one of many during the game, but did he not take out David Hamilton
Yep, League Cup at Forest in 1990 - Hamilton out for quite some time after that

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Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:32 pm

What was the Utd full back called we once had, I remember him doing his cruciate... amazing that these days they often come back almost the same, 10 years back you were half the player

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Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:33 pm

ClaretTony wrote:And of course Frank's son Chris suffered similarly while playing for Reading on Boxing Day 1999. He went to sue Richard Carpenter (then Cardiff) who eventually settled out of court with Chris getting £1 million compensation.
His England school boys shirt used to be on the wall at st Teds in the hall

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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:35 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:What was the Utd full back called we once had, I remember him doing his cruciate... amazing that these days they often come back almost the same, 10 years back you were half the player
Can't think who you mean - only full backs I can recall from United are Lee Roche & Richard Eckersley and I don't recall either of them getting injured.

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Post by Vintage Claret » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:35 pm

Alan Moore
B. Berisha
Charlie Austen- sure he would have been an England regular were it not for his glass shoulder/knee/ankle
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Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:37 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Can't think who you mean - only full backs I can recall from United are Lee Roche & Richard Eckersley and I don't recall either of them getting injured.
I could have sworn Roche pulled out of a 50/50 at the corner near the JH & JM and went off with his cruciate

Could have been Champ manager :D
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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:38 pm

Vintage Claret wrote:Alan Moore
B. Berisha
Charlie Austen- sure he would have been an England regular were it not for his glass shoulder/knee/ankle
Alan Moore seemed to get injury after injury and that's what seemed to lead to his serious problems with depression.

Bes Berisha - saw him play for Albania on the Turf and he looked special. Played really well in the last pre-season game in Austria 2007 and was very close to getting in the team for the first game. Made the bench at Grimsby in the League Cup but then went on international duty and came back with the cruciate.

What bit I saw of him before we signed him, I thought we'd got a very good player. I never saw him play again, wasn't even allowed to train with the first team when he came back from injury.
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Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:38 pm

Researched, I’ve imagined it... must be a different player

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Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:41 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Can't think who you mean - only full backs I can recall from United are Lee Roche & Richard Eckersley and I don't recall either of them getting injured.

Eckersley might as well have been injured for all the use he was.

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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:42 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Eckersley might as well have been injured for all the use he was.
From the little bits I saw of him he was infinitely better than Easton
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Post by jedi_master » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:46 pm

Danny Coyne.

Looked on the face of it like a fantastic signing for £25,000 by Cotterill as he had a great record in the Championship for Grimsby. Only played a few months and then did his knee, never really played again. Could have been our Number 1 for years possibly.

Amazing how many careers an ACL has ruined, good thing I am not a professional footballer (got reconstructive surgery booked for the 9th August for my ACL that I ruptured just after Easter :? ).

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Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:47 pm

ClaretTony wrote:From the little bits I saw of him he was infinitely better than Easton

Ha ha, he certainly could spot a defender could Owen. :)

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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:47 pm

jedi_master wrote:Danny Coyne.

Looked on the face of it like a fantastic signing for £25,000 by Cotterill as he had a great record in the Championship for Grimsby. Only played a few months and then did his knee, never really played again. Could have been our Number 1 for years possibly.

Amazing how many careers an ACL has ruined, good thing I am not a professional footballer (got reconstructive surgery booked for the 9th August for my ACL that I ruptured just after Easter :? ).
Coyne got that knee injury at QPR but he came back and then did his cruciate against Brighton on the Turf in the following season. He looked nothing like when he came back from that one.

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Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:48 pm

Defour could have been an Ozil .... awaits the bites :)

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Post by ElectroClaret » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:53 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:Defour could have been an Ozil .... awaits the bites :)
No bites from me....I actually don't think you're far off
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Post by Burnleyareback2 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:55 pm

Can anyone remind me of the Mark Monington Story?

I think i started watching Burnley as he came back from injury but never really got fit again.

What’s he doing now?

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Post by Bop » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:56 pm

Bop.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:16 am

Burnleyareback2 wrote:Can anyone remind me of the Mark Monington Story?

I think i started watching Burnley as he came back from injury but never really got fit again.

What’s he doing now?
Mono was looking promising but suffered a serious injury at Southend in 1989
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Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:22 am

Danny Inga.
Time will tell if Danny gets his career back on track.
For a young man he has a terrible run of injuries
He would have been a cert for regular call ups for England with a better record re injuries
Hopefully he will miss the opener v Burnley

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Post by Suratclaret » Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:46 am

Colin Agnew McDonald...serious leg injury playing for the Football League v League of Ireland. Would surely have played many more times for Burnley and England but for that injury.
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Post by agreenwood » Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:53 am

Chris McCann.

He was starting to look like a top flight central midfielder before his lengthy knee injury. He was only 22 at that point. He wasn’t the same player afterwards.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:43 am

Suratclaret wrote:Colin Agnew McDonald...serious leg injury playing for the Football League v League of Ireland. Would surely have played many more times for Burnley and England but for that injury.
How could we have gone so far down the thread before Colin McDonald was mentioned?
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Post by Foulthrow » Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:51 am

What about the injury that Stan said Gnohere had? Something about his head wasn’t it? :)

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Post by Siddo » Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:59 am

ElectroClaret wrote:Following on from Bin Ont Turf's thread about Steve Gardner, there must be a lot of our players
who would have gone on to better things if not for injury.

Frank Casper, of course, was done by that b@stard Hunter.
And Peter Mellor, I think, would have been a really good keeper if not for his shoulder/arm injury.

But there must be more....
I'm not sure Mellor would have developed any further. I never rated him and we got rid of him as soon as we could?

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Post by Fretters » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:38 am

agreenwood wrote:Chris McCann.

He was starting to look like a top flight central midfielder before his lengthy knee injury. He was only 22 at that point. He wasn’t the same player afterwards.
Beat me to it. We'd have stayed up that year if he hadn't got injured, I think

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Post by Hendrickxz » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:14 am

ElectroClaret wrote:There’s been quite a few at Burnley over the years Casper never recovered, I went to the races with him 4-5 years ago, great bloke when you get to know him, he has never forgiven (was it Norman Hunter) for the tackle, he still expresses absolute disgust
I was once at a sportsmans dinner where Paul Fletcher was guest speaker, and I asked him about the Hunter "tackle".
He said it was a dreadful challenge and NH was "a nasty piece of work".

Couldn't agree more.[/quote]

I was once at a sportsman's dinner at The Keirby where Hunter was one of the speakers. He walked into the bogs at the interval and a couple of Clarets were giving him grief over that tackle. Their comments made Paul Fletcher's the epitomy of diplomacy. I think the parting shot was "What you doing here any way, you're no f-ing sportsman" :o
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Post by claretabroad » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:28 am

John Clayton is one that comes to mind.

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Post by Steve1956 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:40 am

Defour probably, although he is the most talented player to ever grace Turf Moor

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:47 am

Steve1956 wrote:Defour probably, although he is the most talented player to ever grace Turf Moor
You obviously don't go back as far as the 1960s

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Post by Steve1956 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:48 am

ClaretTony wrote:You obviously don't go back as far as the 1960s
Thing is I do.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:48 am

claretabroad wrote:John Clayton is one that comes to mind.
Not sure his career was ruined - he was 31 when we signed him

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Re: Clarets Players Careers Ruined By Injury

Post by Braindead » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:49 am

Steve1956 wrote:Defour probably, although he is the most talented player to ever grace Turf Moor
Ever as in Ever, Ever?

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